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Help me build new computer from Newegg w/o floppy, cd, or HDD....

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niwi7

Golden Member
My firend wants to spend 285 MAX on his computer---

so we picked out this setup (he has K62 500 rite now)
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Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
Raidmax Model 268WUP(BLUE/SILVER) 10-bay Case W 350W PS Retail Diamond Series Steel Mid-tower case with Built in 2.0 USB in the front. Attractive Streamline design.
Specifications:
Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Driver Bays: Exposed 4 X 5.25" - 2 X 3.5" Internal 4 X 3.5" System Board: ATX / Baby ATX
Expansion Slot: 7 Slots
Standard Fans: 1x 80mm Side Panel Fan
Optional Fans: 4 X 80mm (front) 1 X 60mm (rear)
Dimension: 16.2"(H) X 8"(W) X 17.8"(D) more info>
N82E16811156114 $46.00
$46.00
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Memory (System Memory)
Buffalo Technology 256MB PC2700 DDR Memory Module 32X8 - OEM
Specifications:
Type: 184-pin DDR
Capacity: 256MB
Speed: DDR333
4 Layer DIMM more info>
N82E16820150526 $42.00
$42.00
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Motherboards - AMD
Biostar Motherboard for AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors, VIA KT400 Model# M7VIT PRO
Specifications:
CPU Supported:Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron processors.(Athlon XP 2700+, Athlon 1.4GHz, Duron 1.3GHz
Chipset: VIA KT400
FSB: 333MHz
RAM: 3x DDR(PC3200/DDR400)
IDE: Supports ATA 133
Slots: 1x AGP(4X/8X), 5x PCI, 1x CNR.
Ports: 6x USB 2.0, LAN 10/100 Mbps, and Audio ports
Onboard Audio: Integrated 6 channel sound more info>
N82E16813138221 $55.00
$55.00
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Processors
AMD Athlon XP 2000+/266 FSB Processor CPU - Retail 2000+/ 1.67GHz, AXDA2000BOX
The AMD Athlon XP processor with QuantiSpeed architecture powers the next generation in computing platforms, delivering extra performance for cutting-edge applications and an extra-ordinary computing experience.world's highest overall performing PC processor.
Specifications:
CPU: 1.67 GHz
Type: 2000 XP
Cache: 256K
Core: Thoroughbred
BUS: 266MHz
Socket A (PGA)
Retail box (Heatsink and Fan Included)
more info>
N82E16819103383 $65.00
$65.00
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Speakers
KINYO PS-230 2 CHANNEL MULTIMEDIA SPEAKERS
Dimension: W86 x H150 x D90 mm
3 Watt (RMS)
3" Full Range Speaker
Frequency Response: 120Hz~18KHz more info>

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Video Cards
ATI OEM RADEON 9100 64MB DDR DVI/TV out BULK
Specifications:
Chipset:RADEON 9100
Memory: 64MB DDR
Bus: AGP
High resolution 32-bit 3D gaming up to 2048x1536
2.4 gigatexels/second
68.7 million triangles/second peak
Support for DirectX® 8.1 and OpenGL® 1.3 applications
HYPER Z? II technology conserves memory bandwidth for improved performance in demanding applications
Ports:VGA + DVI + S-Video Out Does not support DVI-VGA adapters
Oem Bulk Pack (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16814102260 $63.00
$63.00




Subtotal » $280.00
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can you critique this setup? i think that mobo is a gr8 deal for 55.....thats the only thing im not 100% sure on....is that a decent mobo? i tihnk ive heard of biostar before but I am not sure....

also everything has free shipping except the ram which really saves us in price

lol u can get a crappy case for 25 + 16 shipping OR this nice case w/ window for just 46....so shipping sux
 
It will work if the PS will handle it.

Then again, I'd spring for 10 or 20 more and get a nforce2 board.

Did you get a HSF or use stock? Make sure you get a t-bred not a Palomino.

edit, I see you got BOX.
 
retail fan

cant go more than 285 and dont wanna downgrade processor....well....what the cheapest decent NF2 board there is with a brand that is decent?

retail fan will be fine its not like they are gunna OC or anything...this is not supposed to be a high-performance machine its supposed to be a machine to play simple games like CS, Madden, WC3 and surf the web fast go on aim etc etc....family computer....so definately no overclock and definately retail fan will be OK
 
oh one more thing...tell me if i am correct that I need a new case...b/c the 1 he has right now has a K6-2-500 MHZ processor in it and from the looks of it doesnt look like the same setup as my ATX case i just recently bought for myself....do the K62 mobos use ATX?? if this case they have is ATX, then i could save 46 on case and buy a better mobo and processor!

how can i tell?...its some cheesy case they bought from 1 of those pacific coast-like rip-off places
 
do the following:

1) get OEM athlon 1700 with cheap HSF and arctic silver
2) get a better case, search for antec then get the cheapest one. the raidmax's 60mm rear fan will do you no good
3) get nforce2 if possible. i think a biostar nforce2 400 (or is it ultra 400? probably the new, cheaper, single channel, highly rated by anandtech's nforce2 400) i think it is $50 something after rebate

and don't expect much from those speakers. try and grab one on sale at your local electronics store. altec lansing has some cheap but high qual stuff

good luck

edit: i think the K6 case would be ATX... old pentiums are AT format, but... you'll need to get a new PSU and some fans for the new athlon

btw the raidmax has NO FRONT AND BACK FANS, so if you do decide to get the raidmax it'll knock another $5+ ship for one fan. so yeah, it's not that much expensive to get the antec.

and why $280? geez skip a lunch and dinner on some crackers and you'll save the $20 in no time...
 
Originally posted by: shady06
i too would shell out some more money for a 8rda+ or something
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can someone tell me why the 8dra+ is so popular except for it's cheap cheap cheap?

i think the latest 8dra+ (version 3) has some serious problems. (read an article on hardocp) DOA rate is also quite high.
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: shady06
i too would shell out some more money for a 8rda+ or something
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can someone tell me why the 8dra+ is so popular except for it's cheap cheap cheap?

i think the latest 8dra+ (version 3) has some serious problems. (read an article on hardocp) DOA rate is also quite high.
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it does anything that other nforce2 boards do, it is a great OCer, and it is cheap
 
thx for your replies....how can i tell if the case i have now is ATX? Instead of just saying get nforce2 gimme suggestions to stay under my 285 limit
 
They already told you, when dealing w/ this small amount of money, don't go to taco bell for a week, and save yourself the $20 to get a slightly better mobo.
 
have extra 20 gig HDD and 16x burner and 48x dvd drive to put in and a floppy like it says in the subject

these people are used to listening to 1 dollar speakers with the right 1 not working so anything is an improvement so these speakers should be fine


OKKKKK so how about this comboo-- instead of Athlon 2000 and KT400 Mobo i get the

Retail 1800 and Cheapest NF2 Mobo (78 w/ 15 rebate)

after we get the rebate back we are looking @ 279 shipped which is even better than before

what will give better performance--- better cpu with kt400 mobo OR worse cpu w/ nforce2 mobo?
 
Originally posted by: niwi7
thx for your replies....how can i tell if the case i have now is ATX? Instead of just saying get nforce2 gimme suggestions to stay under my 285 limit
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sa i said i THINK it's ATX. you will have to find out yourself since nobody will make a trip to your house (probably..)

and i will say nforce2 again. yeah NFORCE2!!!!!!!!!!

as i have said i think biostar have a nforce2 mobo that will fit your budget. search on newegg
 
Your subject line says that you are building W/O Floppy, Cd, or HDD. That meant you were going to have to boot off a network.
 
Originally posted by: niwi7
have extra 20 gig HDD and 16x burner and 48x dvd drive to put in and a floppy like it says in the subject

these people are used to listening to 1 dollar speakers with the right 1 not working so anything is an improvement so these speakers should be fine


OKKKKK so how about this comboo-- instead of Athlon 2000 and KT400 Mobo i get the

Retail 1800 and Cheapest NF2 Mobo (78 w/ 15 rebate)

after we get the rebate back we are looking @ 279 shipped which is even better than before

what will give better performance--- better cpu with kt400 mobo OR worse cpu w/ nforce2 mobo?
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the nforce2 board will be lots lots better, with more functions and supports newer CPU. and you must mean 48X burner and 16X DVD...


and the nforce2 400 is $73 with $15 rebate, making it $58.

 
Originally posted by: niwi7
thx for your replies....how can i tell if the case i have now is ATX? Instead of just saying get nforce2 gimme suggestions to stay under my 285 limit
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I have replaced a couple of K6-2s and they have always been in AT cases. Looking at the motherboard, if all of the PS-2 and serial sockets are ON the motherboard, then it is ATX. If they are all riboon cables connected to the motherboard and then going to slots in the back then it is AT. Even if it's an ATX case, you are going to want a new power supply and the case you picked will look much, much better.
I have built around that case twice now, and it looks really good.
It comes with two fans on the side panel, and if you want to move them around you can.
Buying a couple more fans to put in the front and back isn't that many more dollars, but you are obviously on a tight budget.
For my money, I would go with the 1800+ and nForce2 motherboard because it gives you much better future upgrade options than the KT400 board.
 
correct me if i am wrong,
if you hit and release the power button and the computer go off, its a AT power supply.
if not, and you move the mouse or press and release the power button again AND it come back on(may be go to sleep under win98) then it is a ATX....

the most easy way for sure is open the case and look inside the cable connection. AT (one single row, with middle 2 lines black) and ATX (2 rows of pins) are different.
 
Foxconn Super Case Black w/300W PSU $52
EpoX 8RDA+ $79
AMD XP 1800+ Retail $58
Corsair 256MB XMS PC2700 $56
Abit Siluro Ti4200 128M Refurbished $79

total is $324 shipped, $40 more than what you put together, but trust me it is worth it. what you get:

-good looking case with a quality 300W PSU (also I didn't see a powersupply in your build)
-lightning fast / quality nf2 mobo with firewire/onboard sound
-great processor, runs at 1.53 GHz default. you will also very likely receive a Tbred B core, thereby allowing very high overclocks. with a B core and the Corsair RAM, 12x166 = 2GHz at default vcore is a given.
-some of the best memory you can get (dont skimp on good memory), will run at 5-2-2-2 speeds (the fastest mem speeds you can get)
-great video card that will far outperform the 9100 (which is essentially a 8500LE)
-a nice newegg shirt or hat and a really nice newegg pen 🙂

act fast on this though, dont know how long that ti4200 refurb will last. for $40 more you will get a super fast computer, although i didn't select any speakers. either get some quality speakers (z-340s at the very least) or don't get speakers at all. crappy speakers aren't worth paying for, just tell your friend to use some headphones till he can afford better speakers.

oh also, do NOT be afraid to overclock if you get a B core. you will be able to get great overclocks at DEFAULT voltage (meaning there will be NO harm to the processor).
 
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