Help me build a similar system

[Berryracer]

This is the system I wanna build since ORIGIN PC are way too expensive:

Configuration
• Orientation: Standard
• Standard Color: Red

Experience Guaranteed
• Case Lighting: Remote Controlled Multi-Colored LED
• Case Fans: ORIGIN High-Performance Ultra Silent Fans - Black
• Motherboard: ASUS Rampage V Extreme (Bluetooth/WiFi Onboard)
• System Cooling: ORIGIN FROSTBYTE 360 Sealed Liquid Cooling System for 2011 Socket
• Processors: Intel Core i7 5930K Hex-Core 3.5GHz (3.7GHz TurboBoost)
• Power Supply: 1.5 Kilowatt Corsair AX1500i
• Power Supply Sleeved Cable Color: Red Individually Sleeved Cables
• Graphic Cards: Dual 12GB NVIDIA GTX Titan X
• Memory: 32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz (4x8GB)
• Operating System: MS Windows 7 Professional
• Operating System Drive #1 (Primary): 1.2TB Intel 750 Series
• Operating System Drive #2: Empty, will want to install my SanDisk Extreme PRO 960GB SSD in there
• Hot Swap Bay Drive #1: 4TB Western Digital Caviar Black
• Hot Swap Bay Drive #2: 4TB Western Digital Caviar Black
• Hot Swap Bay Drive #3: 6TB Western Digital Red
• Hot Swap Bay Drive #4: None
• Hot Swap Bay Drive #5: None
• Optical Drive One: 16X Blu-ray Burner
• Optical Drive Two: 16X Blu-ray Burner
• Hard Drive Cage: 5 Bay Hot-Swap Cage
• Media Card Reader: 40-in-1 Media Card Reader
• Audio: Creative Sound Blaster Zx
• Networking: Onboard Network Port
• Keyboards: Corsair Gaming K70 RGB LED Mechanical Keyboard
• Gaming Controllers: Microsoft XBox 360 Wireless Controller
• Primary Display: ASUS 27" ROG SWIFT PG278Q WQHD G-SYNC 3D Monitor
• Display Accessories: NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Glasses Kit with IR Emitter
• Webcam: Logitech C920 HD Pro WebCam

After checking out, the price was $9452 USD but when I wanted to place the order, when their online system converted USD to AED (the currency in Dubai), they charged me an additional $1500 USD that's insane!! I called them to ask what's going on, the sales agent had no clue and was very unhelpful. Seems like they're not even really interested to work or sell.

So I wanna build something similar but have a few questions....

1) Which case is this so I can get it:

2) When configuring the system, they had something I liked that is the hot swappable drive sitting in like a cage you can simply remove one bay and put a drive in there. How can I have something similar?

It`s a mid tower

3) According to their tech support agent, the max RAM/Speed supported that is known to be stable is 32GB Corsair LPX 2666MHz (4x8GB) and not 64GB, and anything above 16GB @ 2800 MHz is also unstable......is that true?

 

[nsafreak]

1) That's either a custom order from Caselabs or a customized SilverStone Fortress FT05B.

2) There are many hot swappable drive bays that you can get aftermarket off newegg, just do a search for hot swappable bay.

3) That's the first I've heard of that since it is the Rampage board which is one of Asus' higher end boards I find it odd that it would have problems supporting a certain amount of memory above a certain speed. Especially since the memory controller is on the chip itself. Capacity wise the i7 5930k supports up to 64GB of RAM according to Intel's ARK.

 

[krnmastersgt]

A good reason for the cost increase (hoping you're not including shipping as well) is that a large amount of online retail chains go through fixed currency conversion ratios, so they likely locked it in when the dollar was stronger than it is now.

1. The case is their own in-house model, the Origin Millenium. They consider it to be their mid tier offering, with the Genesis being their flagship case.

2. As nsafreak said, there's a lot of hot-swap 5.25" bay options.

3. I'm not sure about the 32GB cap, but the higher frequency + RAM amount is a known stability problem. If you load up a system with more memory, the memory controller on-board the CPU is generally taxed more. Combining that with higher frequencies doesn't always work out super stable, even if the RAM is rated stable at higher frequencies. That being said in a DDR3 usage environment, you won't really lose much as long as you're operating at 1600 or higher normally. Few situations call for and benefit from much higher frequencies.

 

[Berryracer]

1) That's either a custom order from Caselabs or a customized SilverStone Fortress FT05B.

2) There are many hot swappable drive bays that you can get aftermarket off newegg, just do a search for hot swappable bay.

3) That's the first I've heard of that since it is the Rampage board which is one of Asus' higher end boards I find it odd that it would have problems supporting a certain amount of memory above a certain speed. Especially since the memory controller is on the chip itself. Capacity wise the i7 5930k supports up to 64GB of RAM according to Intel's ARK.

1) The SilverStone Fortress FT05B does look very similar! Thank a lot for this.

2) I see, newegg is no option for me since they don't do international shipping nor would ship to my US Freight Forwarding Address. Seems like they wanna restrict their goodies to only US people.

3) That's what the tech support said who deals with many calls and issues hence why he said Origin decided not to offer 64 GB @ 2800 MHz configurations

 

[Berryracer]

A good reason for the cost increase (hoping you're not including shipping as well) is that a large amount of online retail chains go through fixed currency conversion ratios, so they likely locked it in when the dollar was stronger than it is now.

1. The case is their own in-house model, the Origin Millenium. They consider it to be their mid tier offering, with the Genesis being their flagship case.

2. As nsafreak said, there's a lot of hot-swap 5.25" bay options.

3. I'm not sure about the 32GB cap, but the higher frequency + RAM amount is a known stability problem. If you load up a system with more memory, the memory controller on-board the CPU is generally taxed more. Combining that with higher frequencies doesn't always work out super stable, even if the RAM is rated stable at higher frequencies. That being said in a DDR3 usage environment, you won't really lose much as long as you're operating at 1600 or higher normally. Few situations call for and benefit from much higher frequencies.

Yes I think that's what's probably happened with the currency conversion. I wouldn't mind paying a few extra dollars more but $1500 USD loss just in currency rates is insane

 

[DigDog]

• Optical Drive One: 16X Blu-ray Burner
• Optical Drive Two: 16X Blu-ray Burner

LOL.
only in dubai.

 

[Berryracer]

LOL.
only in dubai.

hahaha, true that, why? because I can :biggrin:

 

[DigDog]

"because i can" is undeniably the best answer one can give.

well, i think that ..

the cpu is a waste of money, the 5820k is identical. i would still go with 4790k, not only because of the cost, but because of the speed of individual cores.

Also, Skylake is nearly out, so waiting would be the best solution. And for the same reason, wait to see what the 390X Fury brings.

And i would totally wait for the new IPS g-sync from Asus.

 

[Berryracer]

"because i can" is undeniably the best answer one can give.

well, i think that ..

the cpu is a waste of money, the 5820k is identical. i would still go with 4790k, not only because of the cost, but because of the speed of individual cores.

Also, Skylake is nearly out, so waiting would be the best solution. And for the same reason, wait to see what the 390X Fury brings.

And i would totally wait for the new IPS g-sync from Asus.

1) My favorite CPU is actually the Devil's Canyon 4790K due to the higher stock clock speed but the problem is it has to go on the older motherboards not X99 and that has limited speed when it comes to PCIe which will affect the speed of my SLI setup

2) The 5820K is 8 or 16 lanes I think vs 40 lanes for the 5930K

3) Never knew there was a new IPS G-Sync screen coming from ASUS, firstly, isn't IPS bad for games as it has ghosting effects and TN or PLS is better?

 

[DigDog]

G-sync takes care of all the ghosting. Also, there is already a IPS g-sync panel, but only 60hz. this next one has the full package, and thats why i wrote them in sequence: it is IPS, it has g-sync, AND it runs at 144hz.

http://www.pcgamer.com/144-hz-g-sync-ips-asus-pg2749q-monitor-coming-q3-for-800/

eight hundred american dolla. thats a 27" screen.

btw, the previous G-s model (TN panel), had a few people who complained, because their units were substandard: bleeds or bad color. but everyone who did not get a bad unit, said the panel was excellent. i think it was more an issue of QC rather than the actual limits of the technology.

re: PCI lanes, i am not 100% sure that two titans could saturate two 8x gen3 lanes, but you can ask here and i'm sure people will be able to confirm or deny.

if that were the case, then the 5830k makes perfect sense.

Also, why not 2x 980Ti ? (or possibly even the 390X; it comes with a new standard in memory as well, so it could be interesting)

RE: case, i dont give case advice because it's like giving advice on women, you like what you like and i like what i like. I'm sure you already know what the high end case companies are anyway .. mountain mods, lian-li, silverstone ..

re: ram, i suspect the system you were eyeing is overclocked, and they used a ram that defaults at less than 2666, because there is no reason why that board would become unstable with 64Gb.


and finally,regarding cooling .. get someone to build you a custom loop. it won't be cheap, but it will look awesome.
**i strongly doubt you will be able to use 64Gb, but hey .. it's your pc*

regarding the hotswap .. you only really need 1 hotswap.

you keep your spare HDDs in a drawer. and you have a file on your C: that tells you on which HDD each file is.
when you want that file, you pick up the right HDD and slot it into the hotswap bay.

unless you are trying to build a raid array, in which case hotswap bays are used to replace failed HDDs; but why else would you need hotswap bays?

 

[sm625]

I question the viability of dropping $2K on titans 1 week before a potentially significantly faster dual card overclocked solution comes on the market. Not only that, but we have no idea how the performance landscape will change under DX12.

 

[Berryracer]

G-sync takes care of all the ghosting. Also, there is already a IPS g-sync panel, but only 60hz. this next one has the full package, and thats why i wrote them in sequence: it is IPS, it has g-sync, AND it runs at 144hz.

http://www.pcgamer.com/144-hz-g-sync-ips-asus-pg2749q-monitor-coming-q3-for-800/

eight hundred american dolla. thats a 27" screen.

btw, the previous G-s model (TN panel), had a few people who complained, because their units were substandard: bleeds or bad color. but everyone who did not get a bad unit, said the panel was excellent. i think it was more an issue of QC rather than the actual limits of the technology.

re: PCI lanes, i am not 100% sure that two titans could saturate two 8x gen3 lanes, but you can ask here and i'm sure people will be able to confirm or deny.

if that were the case, then the 5830k makes perfect sense.

Also, why not 2x 980Ti ? (or possibly even the 390X; it comes with a new standard in memory as well, so it could be interesting)

RE: case, i dont give case advice because it's like giving advice on women, you like what you like and i like what i like. I'm sure you already know what the high end case companies are anyway .. mountain mods, lian-li, silverstone ..

re: ram, i suspect the system you were eyeing is overclocked, and they used a ram that defaults at less than 2666, because there is no reason why that board would become unstable with 64Gb.


and finally,regarding cooling .. get someone to build you a custom loop. it won't be cheap, but it will look awesome.
**i strongly doubt you will be able to use 64Gb, but hey .. it's your pc*

regarding the hotswap .. you only really need 1 hotswap.

you keep your spare HDDs in a drawer. and you have a file on your C: that tells you on which HDD each file is.
when you want that file, you pick up the right HDD and slot it into the hotswap bay.

unless you are trying to build a raid array, in which case hotswap bays are used to replace failed HDDs; but why else would you need hotswap bays?

Thanks for the time you took to type this man.

Yes I am gonna opt for the 980Ti SLI x2 as I saw it's only a couple of FPS less than the Titans so that makes the Titans not worthy of such a high price.

With regards to the hot swappable bay, it's just a matter of space as I would already have a 1.2 TB PCIe Intel 750 SSD as the main OS drive and a second 960GB SSD as the 2nd drive, not I would use the hot swappable bays to keep a 4TB WD Black for my movies collection and use the 6TB WD Red in the 2nd slot of the hot swap bay for my *ahem ahem* collection :whiste:

 

[DigDog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaXbZD8IEUc

 

[fortworthtechs]

This system will be costly. I guess the CPU you choose is not that much good enough.

 

[bbhaag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaXbZD8IEUc

Holy crap those were some nice looking cases. The tempered glass look is pretty cool.