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Originally posted by: Duvie
Get the fastest cpus you can as this is important in the rendering...Then you can spend 250 dollars like me (les no) and get a 6800NU and convert it to a quadro with rivatuner...100% works...as long as you just run in windows environment you are fine......

I would rather spend my money with processing power and ram then vid card with my quadro fix. I pull spec scores that beat the 4000 dollar quadro 4000 and 3400 systems....thanks to my cpu speed and overclocked 6800...The quaudo 4000 I belive is the 6800agp version anmd is clocked like a basic 6800 at 325/700...MOst will do more then that like my BFG.

If you need reliability dont OC, but the quadro hack is legit and unlike in the past with Geforce4's this is full functioning and able to upgrade to nay current drivers....I use 3dsmax 7 and the performance increase was phenomenal in 3d orbiting and such with no degradation....

Do you know if you can still run SLI on a pair of 6800 cards that have been softmodded via Rivatuner?
 
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: Duvie
Get the fastest cpus you can as this is important in the rendering...Then you can spend 250 dollars like me (les no) and get a 6800NU and convert it to a quadro with rivatuner...100% works...as long as you just run in windows environment you are fine......

I would rather spend my money with processing power and ram then vid card with my quadro fix. I pull spec scores that beat the 4000 dollar quadro 4000 and 3400 systems....thanks to my cpu speed and overclocked 6800...The quaudo 4000 I belive is the 6800agp version anmd is clocked like a basic 6800 at 325/700...MOst will do more then that like my BFG.

If you need reliability dont OC, but the quadro hack is legit and unlike in the past with Geforce4's this is full functioning and able to upgrade to nay current drivers....I use 3dsmax 7 and the performance increase was phenomenal in 3d orbiting and such with no degradation....

Do you know if you can still run SLI on a pair of 6800 cards that have been softmodded via Rivatuner?



I believe I heard yes...As far as I know unless rivatuner cannot be enabled it should work just fine....That would be sweet though I am not sure if anyone has shown it does anything other then games...It may have to be programed to take advantage of it, and likely would need new nvidia CAD drivers...
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Get the fastest cpus you can as this is important in the rendering...Then you can spend 250 dollars like me (les no) and get a 6800NU and convert it to a quadro with rivatuner...100% works...as long as you just run in windows environment you are fine......

I would rather spend my money with processing power and ram then vid card with my quadro fix. I pull spec scores that beat the 4000 dollar quadro 4000 and 3400 systems....thanks to my cpu speed and overclocked 6800...The quaudo 4000 I belive is the 6800agp version anmd is clocked like a basic 6800 at 325/700...MOst will do more then that like my BFG.

If you need reliability dont OC, but the quadro hack is legit and unlike in the past with Geforce4's this is full functioning and able to upgrade to nay current drivers....I use 3dsmax 7 and the performance increase was phenomenal in 3d orbiting and such with no degradation....

good plan, 6800 would be perfect
 
Firstly, some of the advice you're getting on this forum is very dumb. If you want a good rendering workstation on a budget, go with an Intel chip, amd is better for almost everything these days but you'll get excellent performance rendering with a dual-core Intel Pentium 4 at a decent price, considering its usage. Secondly, ignore the people telling you to get a gaming video card and low latency ram, they havent got a clue how rendering works. Gaming cards are designed structurally for the sole purpose of rendering images as fast as possible asyncrhonously on the fly. They are not designed to render high quality models and images synchronously such as a rendering workstation does. Dont waste your money on a gaming card, you can get several times better rendering performance on a budget workstation card (I'd recommended Matrox if you arent planning on using SLI as their business is completely dedicated to rendering workstation cards) than you would with the top of the line gaming card. Quadro's are just modified Geforce cores. Imagine a rendering card as a work horse and a gaming card as a race horse. A race horse might be alot faster in a race, such as gaming, but it would be a weakling when it came to the duties of a workhorse. Likewise a workhorse is powerful but it would be very slow in a race against race horses. Also with Intel you can use higher bandwidth ram which is WAY better for rendering because it requires massive bandwidth, timings are NOT important in rendering. If possible go for the highest bandwidth DDR or DD2 ram that the motherboard allows (again I'd go with Intel simply because they move bandwidth faster in 3d rendering and alot of rendering software are being optimized for hyperthreading right now) Whoever suggested using low latency ram on a single Opteron 265 is obviously poorly educated and spends too much time on here trying to figure out how to overclock his budget system that he saved 3 years of allowance for so he can play counter-strike all day in his parents den.
Opterons with the "2xx" rating are specifically for dual CPU systems, and are the same speed as a "1xx" rated opteron. A 265 and a 165 Opteron are exactly the same speed and same chip, the only difference is the 265 has been certified for dual cpu usage and thus costs more.

Go with these specs

*Dual-core Pentium 4
*motherboard with whatever features you will use (SLI is a good idea) and that supports DDR2 ram if possible
*High bandwidth ram
*SATA2 HD if possible, and RAID is probably a good idea incase something bad happens and you lose weeks worth of rendering
*Budget workstation card (Either a Quadro for SLI if you have more cash later and want to easily ratchet up your rendering speed or you can get a decent Matrox card that will match or beat a single Quadra for much less money)
*A good PSU, at least 450watts if you plan on using SLI

And whowever told you that you need an LCD screen for 3d rendering needs to have his head examined. You wont get an appreciation for the color depth on an LCD screen and most people that view your work will be looking at it on a CRT screen as they know better than to use an LCD to begin with when working with 3d rendering and graphics design.
 
For a good monitor I'd go with Viewsonic for your rendering system. Their color quality is better than any other manufacturer, I use one at home and its spectacular, even for gaming.

Viewsonic
 
first i would contact the manf and ask them what their software works better on, intel or amd. some software is coded to work better on a certain platform, it has been intel for years but lately the amd cpus are pretty equal.

also, i would not go with a dfi board unless you plan to be a mad o/cer because of their known issues with ram and that they are just finicky boards. go with epox, tyan, msi, gigabyte, etc.
 
Nazrac:

The reason we are recommending AMD dual cores is that Intel is currently lacking in the performance area when it comes to their dual core chips. Even the low end X2 3800+ beats out the P-D 830 when it comes to 3ds MAX. Intel is only competitive with the 840 EE, which has dual core and Hyperthreading, so 3ds MAX sees 4 processors to use. With the 840 EE, though, you are talking about a $1000 chip compared to the $900 you will pay for a X2 4800+. Heck, even the 4200+ isn't all that bad for rendering compared to the 840 and 840 EE. There's a reason that ILM uses Opterons in their render farms.

Also, Matrox is seriously overrated when it comes to 3ds MAX. The Parahelia couldn't keep up with the GeForce Ti 4600 back when this review was posted. Since the Paraheila really hasn't been majorly refreshed since then, it likely will get annihilated by a 7800GTX in 3ds MAX. If you want a TRUE 3ds MAX card that isn't a modified gaming card, then you can get a Wildcat Realizm. They were built from the ground up to push polygons, which is really what counts when you are modeling. But don't even bring Matrox into the conversation when it comes to 3D graphics.
 
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