Help Martha Stewart get lots of time in jail.

[iwearnosox]

I want her to go to jail so I can swoon her via tender sifl-mail.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Anyone who actually WANTS her to go to jail, is a fvcking idiot. Do something else with your pathetic lives.

Tell that to all the people that lost their pensions and savings because of insdier tradeing and lie's. What she did is minor compared to some others, but that does not mean she does not deserve jail time.

Someone tells you that a stock that you own is going down the crapper, do you honestly hold onto it or try to unload it?

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: sygyzy
What a silly comment. What has Osama ever done to you specifically? Do you like him?

you are a moron.

What a creative comment. My post was in response to TommyVerceti's comment. If you do not have the intelligence to post something somewhat intelligent, you should leave. I feel sorry for your parents.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Ever since when did trying to defend yourself make lying an acceptable crime?

the reason why the case got so big is just because its martha stewart invovled.. the prosecutors just want to set an example of her by nailing her to the wall..

Imagine this scenario:
you are driving in the freeway and doing 10 over the speed limit. A cop pulled you over, and you said you are going on the speed limit. THIS IS ALSO LYING! and you should also go to jail for it. But do people go to jail for this? NO coz its such a trivial case.
Martha did lie, but she does not deserve to go to jail.

All martha did is defend herself, and yes she did lie, but she did that because she want to defend herself..

The lesson that will be taken from this case is that people will NOT talk to the government regarding ANYTHING, since whatever you say will be used against you..

THERE ARE FAR MORE people that deserve to go to jail. Executives from enron, global crossing, rite aid, etc eliminated MILLIONS of dollars from stakeholders.. and they are not seeing any jail time. They deserve to be punished 10000 times more than martha..

but the question is, why are the prosecutors so bent in nailing martha? IMO its just because of her image of perfection, and it creates a BIG material for the media to chew on... and also for the general public

Insider trading is RAMPANT EVERYHWERE.... everyone does insider trading in some sense.. you hear from your family, buy this stock since they just invented something.. that is ALSO insider trading

oh and also the insider trading charge was dropped against Martha, so they only got her from lying..
If she had kept her mouth shut, he would be OK... again the message for the people will be: its better to keep your mouth shut... coz they will nail you if you do talk..

I am sorry but I think you are totally misunderstanding the law. First off, it is illegal if I lie to an officer and I could go to jail for it. What makes the Martha Stewart case different is that we are talking about a case with far reaching effects. With the Enron, Arthur Andersens, IMClone, WorldCom sleezy executives around nowadays, something as significant as lying about insider trading is not to be taken lightly. Martha's company has a lot of investors, hardworking Americans like you and me. If she lied about IMClone, what makes you think she won't lie and cheat her own shareholders, so she could make a quick buck? People think that whitecolor crime is not bad as physical crime, but I think it's just as bad, if not more. Just because the guy doesn't have a chainsaw and hockey mask on, doesn't mean he is not just as evil.

Lastly, I think it's funny that you think that lying is a standard part of defense. When people talk about the word defend, or to defend oneself, they are talking about offering evidence that you are not guilty. For example - counterarguments, an alibi, documents etc. LYING has NEVER been a legally (or socially acceptable) part of a defense. I don't know if I could make it any more clear.

again I restate that lying is wrong.

but my point is, she going to jail would be perfectly fine if EVERYONE that lies go to jail..
what she did is very TRIVIAL, and have no major impact to anyone or any stakeholder whatsoever
the prosecutors have much bigger Sh*t to worry about.... but they chose to nail martha and set her up as a pin up girl.
IMO its because they cant get the bastards like ken lay and garry winnick

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: sygyzy
What a silly comment. What has Osama ever done to you specifically? Do you like him?

you are a moron.

What a creative comment. My post was in response to TommyVerceti's comment. If you do not have the intelligence to post something somewhat intelligent, you should leave. I feel sorry for your parents.

if you think that everything is black and white, you should go back crying to your parents.

everything in the real world is NOT black and white. People have to decide the severity of each wrong doing, and decide whether its appropriate to punish people for their crimes.

you are comparing osama to martha stewart? please.. what osama did is MUCH more compared to martha stewart did.

using your analogy, everyone should get the death sentence for ANY crime that they commit..

 

[Sspidie99]

I think the government should stopping worry about Martha and concentrate on those theives from Enron. What the hell happened to all of those big wigs from Enron. I guess having a buddy in the oval office helps you get of trouble. I can't believe people aren't still outraged by that situation. Do texans still care? You still living it up mr lay?

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Anyone who actually WANTS her to go to jail, is a fvcking idiot. Do something else with your pathetic lives.

Tell that to all the people that lost their pensions and savings because of insdier tradeing and lie's. What she did is minor compared to some others, but that does not mean she does not deserve jail time.

Someone tells you that a stock that you own is going down the crapper, do you honestly hold onto it or try to unload it?

exactly...

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Sspidie99
I think the government should stopping worry about Martha and concentrate on those theives from Enron. What the hell happened to all of those big wigs from Enron. I guess having a buddy in the oval office helps you get of trouble. I can't believe people aren't still outraged by that situation. Do texans still care? You still living it up mr lay?

totally agree... what she did is extrmeley smaller in case comapred to what these bastards did..

 

[ReiAyanami]

if they're gonna go after martha, they should altleast throw in a few dozen enron and worldcon execs

 

[IamElectro]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
if they're gonna go after martha, they should altleast throw in a few dozen enron and worldcon execs

The fact is she lied got caught. I think that this is just an indicator as to whats going to happen to Enron, Adelphia, and the Worldcom @sshats.

I agree that yes she is probably not the best canidate for jail but she did impede and investigation. Martha is an intelligent woman who let her intelligence and arragence get the best of her. Remember she had a seat on the stock exchange before she was the kitchen diva, so she new full well what the consequences of her actions could possibly be. I dont feel sorry for her and never will.

 

[Sspidie99]

[/quote]The fact is she lied got caught. I think that this is just an indicator as to whats going to happen to Enron, Adelphia, and the Worldcom @sshats.
.[/quote]

If only that was so. Funny how fast the ball got rolling on the Martha case. Especially given that the incidents at enron, adelphia and worldcomm happened alot earlier. Maybe having connections in government and the oval office helps. If only Martha had been buddies with duba, she could still be living it up like good ole mr. lay. I doubt anything is going to happen to the good ole boys at enron any time soon. Unless of course duba looses the election. Then maybe those bastards will get what they deserve.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: IamElectro

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
if they're gonna go after martha, they should altleast throw in a few dozen enron and worldcon execs

The fact is she lied got caught. I think that this is just an indicator as to whats going to happen to Enron, Adelphia, and the Worldcom @sshats.

And this will occur sometime before they die of old age?

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why didn't she get Cochrane or somebody else.

I think she deserves jail for picking such a horrible legal defense. She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation. She's a sacrifical lamb, which is not fair.

I?m really struggling with this sentence:

?She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation.?

I think ?nobody else would not have done? == ?everyone would have done?

So then I think you're trying to say

?She did none of the things that everyone else would have done, given the situation.?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
martha DOES NOT deserve to go to jail

all she did is defend herself, and she got accused of lying

read the article about martha in newseek magazine..

Agreed. She is a patsy.

 

[dabuddha]

Anyone else in her situation would get jail time. She just happens to be famous so her trial is getting more press coverage. Let's not create another OJ out of her.

 

[Ryan]

Why should she get lots of jail time just because your dumbass doesn't like her? Personally, I think that the judgement she is getting is too harsh, especially when there are Enron and Worldcom employees who actually ruined people's live and helped tank our economy, yet they're not getting punished. Personally, I don't thing Martha should get anything buy a fine. Our government hasa more important things to waste our money on, not something as pathetic as what she did.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Sspidie99
I think the government should stopping worry about Martha and concentrate on those theives from Enron. What the hell happened to all of those big wigs from Enron. I guess having a buddy in the oval office helps you get of trouble. I can't believe people aren't still outraged by that situation. Do texans still care? You still living it up mr lay?

totally agree... what she did is extrmeley smaller in case comapred to what these bastards did..

I agree also. She sold stocks due to an illegal tip and saved approximately $50,000.00. The people responsible for the Enron fiasco have fscked over a LOT of people due to their actions, and are off playing golf.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why didn't she get Cochrane or somebody else.

I think she deserves jail for picking such a horrible legal defense. She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation. She's a sacrifical lamb, which is not fair.

So she shouldn't go to jail just because there are other people who do worse things and get off?

Your honour, while I DID kill someone, I'd like to point out the fact that Joe Smith over there got off on charges of killing 2 people. If he didn't go to jail, it's unfair that I should have to.

Screw that. Prosecute her to the full extent of the law, just as anyone else.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Sspidie99
I think the government should stopping worry about Martha and concentrate on those theives from Enron. What the hell happened to all of those big wigs from Enron. I guess having a buddy in the oval office helps you get of trouble. I can't believe people aren't still outraged by that situation. Do texans still care? You still living it up mr lay?

totally agree... what she did is extrmeley smaller in case comapred to what these bastards did..

I agree also. She sold stocks due to an illegal tip and saved approximately $50,000.00. The people responsible for the Enron fiasco have fscked over a LOT of people due to their actions, and are off playing golf.

THAT is what I am talking about. They are just trying to make an example out of her, which is WRONG.

Even Marlin knows that, he just doesn't want to admit it.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why didn't she get Cochrane or somebody else.

I think she deserves jail for picking such a horrible legal defense. She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation. She's a sacrifical lamb, which is not fair.

So she shouldn't go to jail just because there are other people who do worse things and get off?

Your honour, while I DID kill someone, I'd like to point out the fact that Joe Smith over there got off on charges of killing 2 people. If he didn't go to jail, it's unfair that I should have to.

Screw that. Prosecute her to the full extent of the law, just as anyone else.

no its not like that at all

a better analogy is a person blowing up thousands of people's retirement money vs someone who lied to a government investigator

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why didn't she get Cochrane or somebody else.

I think she deserves jail for picking such a horrible legal defense. She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation. She's a sacrifical lamb, which is not fair.

So she shouldn't go to jail just because there are other people who do worse things and get off?

Your honour, while I DID kill someone, I'd like to point out the fact that Joe Smith over there got off on charges of killing 2 people. If he didn't go to jail, it's unfair that I should have to.

Screw that. Prosecute her to the full extent of the law, just as anyone else.

no its not like that at all

a better analogy is a person blowing up thousands of people's retirement money vs someone who lied to a government investigator

The root of it is saying someone should get off just because others have gotten away with worse.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Why didn't she get Cochrane or somebody else.

I think she deserves jail for picking such a horrible legal defense. She did nothing that nobody else would not have done given the situation. She's a sacrifical lamb, which is not fair.

So she shouldn't go to jail just because there are other people who do worse things and get off?

Your honour, while I DID kill someone, I'd like to point out the fact that Joe Smith over there got off on charges of killing 2 people. If he didn't go to jail, it's unfair that I should have to.

Screw that. Prosecute her to the full extent of the law, just as anyone else.

no its not like that at all

a better analogy is a person blowing up thousands of people's retirement money vs someone who lied to a government investigator

The root of it is saying someone should get off just because others have gotten away with worse.

ya I agree that that reasoning is wrong a better argument is the severity of the wrong doing

 

[jjones]

Why would I want to see Martha in jail? Give her a stiff fine and be done with it.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
She's apparently trying to get friends to plead with the judge to give he less jail time. I think I'll have to write a letter about how horrible she is and maybe we can get her a few extra years...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=&e=8&u=/ap/20040318/ap_on_bi_ge/martha_stewart_4

I'm with ya. Just give me an address.

 

[CraigRT]

she definitely doesn't deserve to go to jail.. it's completely LAME!