Help for a broke gamer in need of an upgrade.

[Pstone89]

Hey all, I am finally upgrading from my old Vizio 37"

I am in need of a 65" 4k TV, I have been doing a ton of research but I still am finding myself struggling to choose between my options. I prefer a 65" but a 60" will probably be fine, it would ultimately just hurt my pride more than anything else.

I have a budget of 1400$ so I know I am going to have to make some sacrifices to quality.

I will be using it mainly for Gaming and Netflix but I do enjoy watching my movies on Blu-Ray.
I plan on making the purchase online on black Friday.

If anyone can help me out by shouting a couple of good models to look for that would be awesome. I know that Samsung seems to have some of the best lag input rates right now but Im not sure as to how important this really is. I know Im going to be happy with it no matter what but I need to know what I should be willing to sacrifice and what I should really be hard pressed for.

 

[poofyhairguy]

When we get a little closer we will know what the best BF tv deal is. I bet 4K is huge this year.

 

[Pstone89]

When we get a little closer we will know what the best BF tv deal is. I bet 4K is huge this year.

Yeah Best buy has been posting a lot of good deals already but I might as well wait until the actual day. Its so tempting to just get the vizio for 999 but I think that I would be much happier with a Samsung or Sony for a couple hundred more.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Sonys usually have the best input lag.

 

[gus6464]

So the real question is will you be actually gaming in 4K? I assume you will be connecting your PC to the TV and you have a GPU that can handle 4K no problem?

 

[Pstone89]

So the real question is will you be actually gaming in 4K? I assume you will be connecting your PC to the TV and you have a GPU that can handle 4K no problem?

Yes I have a Rig that can handle 4k, currently its being upgraded and should be all built by Christmas, but for the time being I will just have my Xbone hooked up. I want the 4k because I know that I will be utilizing it very soon and I would hate to spend the money on a 1080 just to regret it in the next year or two.

 

[gus6464]

Yes I have a Rig that can handle 4k, currently its being upgraded and should be all built by Christmas, but for the time being I will just have my Xbone hooked up. I want the 4k because I know that I will be utilizing it very soon and I would hate to spend the money on a 1080 just to regret it in the next year or two.

K so the TV this year with the lowest input lag is the Samsung JU7500. Now for what is actually in your budget the JS7000 is the best you got at 60".
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...lack/4209600.p?id=1219707310976&skuId=4209600

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best

 

[Pstone89]

K so the TV this year with the lowest input lag is the Samsung JU7500. Now for what is actually in your budget the JS7000 is the best you got at 60".
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...lack/4209600.p?id=1219707310976&skuId=4209600

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best

Yeah looks like thats the one for gaming, unfortunately I dont think the Fiance would be too happy with it since it has reported issues running movies and thats all shes going to be using it for pretty much. Then again she probably wont even notice unless I point it out.

I will definitely add this one to the list of models to check out once Black Friday rolls around.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Pstone89]

Also Saw that the M series Vizios arent that bad this year, but I havent been able to track down an actual number for the input lag. Any thoughts? I know Vizio has always been mediocre but so is my budget.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio/3793044.p?id=1219603239787&skuId=3793044

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m-series-2015/

 

[cmdrdredd]

Here's the big question. How much priority do you place on gaming. To be specific, how important is input lag and motion blur to you? The reason I ask is that the lowest input lag comes from Vizio and Samsung models. The Samsung models are much more expensive for a similar size. The Vizio models may be cheaper but the overall display quality is lower as a result. Not terrible, but notable. So you may end up needing to decide which is more important to you. The Vizio P series is good all around and only $1300 for a 60" set. It has great results in the input lag tests, coming in around 18ms from the reviews I found. The only problems are the viewing angle (may be non issue), some motion trails when viewing certain content, and the big one that lower resolution content may appear softer than other sets(means 1080p content and below might not be as sharp as you like). It rates well otherwise. The M series has about the same results, but it does come in at your $1500 budget for a 65" set. Samsung equivalents are north of $2000, but rate much better overall and still come in under 25ms of input lag. Now you may be happy with some sets from LG which have more input lag but are cheaper than Samsung. This year's Sony Models have some problems with grey uniformity and black levels and don't rate that well on input lag. I just recently bought a new set and looked at everything and gaming was a concern for me as well so this is all still fresh in my mind.

Try to decide whether you are doing mostly gaming, mostly movies, or a mix. Then you can decide how important input lag is to you vs other features.

Also Saw that the M series Vizios arent that bad this year, but I havent been able to track down an actual number for the input lag. Any thoughts? I know Vizio has always been mediocre but so is my budget.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio/3793044.p?id=1219603239787&skuId=3793044

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m-series-2015/

As I mentioned the Vizio M and P series are under 20ms of input lag(http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/input-lag). There are full reviews with tests of motion blur, 24p and 60p judder, greay uniformity, black levels, sports viewing etc. It'll give you an idea of what you can expect from these sets.

 

[gus6464]

Yeah looks like thats the one for gaming, unfortunately I dont think the Fiance would be too happy with it since it has reported issues running movies and thats all shes going to be using it for pretty much. Then again she probably wont even notice unless I point it out.

I will definitely add this one to the list of models to check out once Black Friday rolls around.

Thanks for the help!

What do you mean reported issues running movies?

 

[Pstone89]

What do you mean reported issues running movies?

Under the review for the JS7000 it says that it has judder issues when playing movies.

 

[Pstone89]

Here's the big question. How much priority do you place on gaming. To be specific, how important is input lag and motion blur to you? The reason I ask is that the lowest input lag comes from Vizio and Samsung models. The Samsung models are much more expensive for a similar size. The Vizio models may be cheaper but the overall display quality is lower as a result. Not terrible, but notable. So you may end up needing to decide which is more important to you. The Vizio P series is good all around and only $1300 for a 60" set. It has great results in the input lag tests, coming in around 18ms from the reviews I found. The only problems are the viewing angle (may be non issue), some motion trails when viewing certain content, and the big one that lower resolution content may appear softer than other sets(means 1080p content and below might not be as sharp as you like). It rates well otherwise. The M series has about the same results, but it does come in at your $1500 budget for a 65" set. Samsung equivalents are north of $2000, but rate much better overall and still come in under 25ms of input lag. Now you may be happy with some sets from LG which have more input lag but are cheaper than Samsung. This year's Sony Models have some problems with grey uniformity and black levels and don't rate that well on input lag. I just recently bought a new set and looked at everything and gaming was a concern for me as well so this is all still fresh in my mind.

Try to decide whether you are doing mostly gaming, mostly movies, or a mix. Then you can decide how important input lag is to you vs other features.



As I mentioned the Vizio M and P series are under 20ms of input lag(http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/input-lag). There are full reviews with tests of motion blur, 24p and 60p judder, greay uniformity, black levels, sports viewing etc. It'll give you an idea of what you can expect from these sets.

So I suppose I should be saying that im looking more for a mixture. This TV will be the main tv in our 600sqft apartment. It will be used for console gaming (which I understand doesnt require 4k) but most likely it will be used more for streaming media on Netflix,Hulu etc and watching Blu ray quality movies as well as Live sports.

I will be hooking my comp up to it eventually but since my Fiance will be paying for half of this I do need to stress movie and live tv quality.

In summation this will be our household t.v. that will be used for everything.

 

[gus6464]

So I suppose I should be saying that im looking more for a mixture. This TV will be the main tv in our 600sqft apartment. It will be used for console gaming (which I understand doesnt require 4k) but most likely it will be used more for streaming media on Netflix,Hulu etc and watching Blu ray quality movies as well as Live sports.

I will be hooking my comp up to it eventually but since my Fiance will be paying for half of this I do need to stress movie and live tv quality.

In summation this will be our household t.v. that will be used for everything.

Then go to best buy and buy the 55" Sony X850C for $1300 or the Samsung JS8500 for $1500. Sorry to say that a quality 65" 4K TV in your price is not going to happen.

Also looking at TVs at Best Buy to get a sense of the PQ is absolutely useless. TVs should be calibrated to get the best PQ out of them. Using the calibration settings at rtings.com gets you 90% of the way there and once you do those the TV will look nothing like what you saw at Best Buy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yeah you'll have to choose between higher quality or larger screen size at some point. Unless you can wiggle your budget up a bit before you're ready to buy.