HELP FAST: Computer dead

[smokin rsx]

Not sure where to put this im in a big one here.

I have a 350W power supply.

p4c800 Motherboard
Intel P4 3.0E presscott
1GB ram
BFG 6800GT

I just installed a xp120 and a 120mm panaflow, i also installed 3 other fans.

I ran computer and it ran fine, CPU was cool at 34idle. I went into bios up the Buss to 220 from 200 and Core Voltage at 1.45 and then it happened, computer turned off and now it wont start at all.
I unplug the power cord plug it in, press the button, it clicks and thats it .
I took out the powersupply from my brothers computer and put it in mine and it did the same thing.

Did i fry my mobo? my cpu? theres a green light on mobo thats on when i turn on the Power supply. but when i turn it by pushing the button on my case, it clicks for a second and then nothing .

Please help.

 

[ts3433]

Try clearing CMOS and then starting up again.

What kind of PSUs did you try (give manufacturer, model, etc.)?

 

[smokin rsx]

i tried clearing cmos and it did nothing.

Dont have the PSU on me, some generic one that works on my bother computer, its also 350W. it did the same thing im on his computer now, so his PSU is working, just not on my system

 

[one30eight]

Unplug... press power for 5 seconds.... remove battery for 20 seconds... replace... replug... restart...

 

[smokin rsx]

Originally posted by: one30eight
Unplug... press power for 5 seconds.... remove battery for 20 seconds... replace... replug... restart...

didnt work man

Like when i plug in the power cable. and press the power button, i hear this fair click and then thats it, if i press it again, nothing.....then when i unplug the power cable, i hear it again before the light on mobo goes out.

 

[Malak]

I'm no expert, but I'd think you'd need a bigger PSU if that's a cheap one.

 

[smokin rsx]

well, if a 350W worked before, should it still work, the only thing i have in is the processor...nothing else is plugged in, no fans, nothing....i just want it to turn on.

But do appreciate the help tho. thanks man

anyone else wanna give it a go?

 

[kranky]

Make sure you have the power connector to the motherboard (the big 20 or 24 pin one) seated properly.

 

[Terumo]

Nothing works? No fans/HDD light? If it was bad memory all those will still work. If nothing works and you tried another powersupply (and it works fine in another computer), and the ATX was seated good, the m/b died or.....

Only other thing I can think is it's under powered and can't boot. You do have some power hungry basic hardware there. Did you plug any of the Panaflos in the chassis or processor fan headers? It might be too much of a drain if so (what's the fan watt limit for that board? A P4T533 is like 6watts, not much for 120mms), and the m/b won't boot because of it. Will have to use a molex for them, if that's the case.

EDIT: a Panaflo M1A draws 4.08watts alone. If your m/b limit is 6 or 8watts (if plugged into the board), it was overloaded.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: smokin rsx
Not sure where to put this im in a big one here.

I have a 350W power supply.

p4c800 Motherboard
Intel P4 3.0E presscott
1GB ram
BFG 6800GT

I just installed a xp120 and a 120mm panaflow, i also installed 3 other fans.

I ran computer and it ran fine, CPU was cool at 34idle. I went into bios up the Buss to 220 from 200 and Core Voltage at 1.45 and then it happened, computer turned off and now it wont start at all.
I unplug the power cord plug it in, press the button, it clicks and thats it .
I took out the powersupply from my brothers computer and put it in mine and it did the same thing.

Did i fry my mobo? my cpu? theres a green light on mobo thats on when i turn on the Power supply. but when i turn it by pushing the button on my case, it clicks for a second and then nothing .

Please help.

maybe try the cpu in another motherboard?

 

[stevty2889]

I generic 350w PSU is a bad idea to start with when using a power hungry prescott, not to mention then trying to overclock it with one..try booting up with the minimum, unplug your hard drives and cd/dvd drives, and take out any pci cards other than the video card, and then try booting up.
EDIT: you have a 6800GT in there as well? No way is a generic 350w enough for that. If you have another video card you can try, I highly suggest it.

 

[smokin rsx]

I've tried everything, everything is unplugged, only the CPU is in with stock cooling. and it does the same thing. I did have the panaflow 120mm into the motherboard along with a 80MM chassis fan. I think thats what killed it.
I am gonna go buy a 460W supply today and try it, if not, then probably put the cpu in my brothers computer and see what happens.
i just hope its the PSU.

I never tried a different PSU unit after i did the press power for 5 seconds.... remove battery for 20 seconds... replace... replug... restart Method.

I have overclocked before and it ran stable at FSB 235. So i assume w/ xp/120 itll be fine since temperatures were no more than 33 Idle.

Another thing I should mention. I had the panaflow 120MM into the board and a 80MM TT fan into the board power too. Then i had a 120MM in the back and a 80MMTT on the side. 6800GT, Pioneer A08, and the WD sata drive. i think i may have killed the 350W PSU. or worse MB/CPU or worse, everything.

Im crossing fingers that my PSU is dead.
I am using AS5 for my compound, i was trying to be as careful as i can.

computer ran fine until i tinkered w/ some bios settins listed in this guide for my mobo http://forums.extremeoverclock...show...ad.php?t=108657
and then it happened.

 

[smokin rsx]

If worst comes, I will try the Warranties and see what happens. Maybe they'll RMA the damaged parts other than PSU.

What are my chances they will RMA say the MB or Processor?

 

[Cook1]

Yeah, agreeing with the above posters. A generic 350W PSU isn't going to run that hardware. I think one person on these boards ran a 6800NU or was it GT with the Antec 350W Smart Blue PSU.

 

[smokin rsx]

yeah, i have found that out as well.
But wouldnt a 350W PSU power the board and just the CPU? i mean nothing elseis plugged in. just the CPU. and it still just clicks.

 

[smokin rsx]

another question.
After my computer crapped out. I took off the Xp120. As i said i used arctic silver5, when i pully the heat sink, it pulled the CPU with it . Now, when i look at the pins, a couple were bent in one corner, I CAREFULLY bent them back, and the CPU now sits in the slot as if nothing happened, i mean it drops right in.

Did I Damaget something, what am i suppose to do if the AS5 bonds that well? will it pull my cpu every time?

 

[MrControversial]

Pull the CMOS battery out for 3 minutes, not 20 secs. Just wait a while. Did you screw with the VCORE or something?

 

[smokin rsx]

bumped the Vcore from auto to 1.45V

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: smokin rsx
what am i suppose to do if the AS5 bonds that well? will it pull my cpu every time?

Remove the HSF while the HS is still warm to the touch, not hot though. It will separate from the processor relatively easily then.

 

[raanemaan]

I found out sometimes it best to leave the battery out for a few minutes. Worth a try

 

[smokin rsx]

Im picking up an Enermax 460W PSU in a couple of hours. What do you guys think of this PSU unit?

 

[Boobers]

Don't run fans off the motherboard fan headers...

 

[smokin rsx]

DANG IT. its not the PSU, its doing the same thing. a little click, cpu fan like barely turns and stops, like a little push but computer wont start. it didnt start w/out cpu either. gonna try my brothers cpu and see what happens.

any other suggestions or RMA the Mother board.

 

[stevty2889]

I highly doubt it's the CPU, unless you severly overvolted it, which you didn't, it would be difficult to kill your CPU. I think the most likely culprit at this point is the motherboard. They way you describe it, the fan barely turning and then stopping right away, is what I have seen several times when a motherboard has died.

EDIT: P.S. good choice on the enermax PSU. I am using a 460w enermax, and it's got nice stable rails, and powering my prescott quite nicely.

 

[Terumo]

Originally posted by: smokin rsx
another question.
After my computer crapped out. I took off the Xp120. As i said i used arctic silver5, when i pully the heat sink, it pulled the CPU with it . Now, when i look at the pins, a couple were bent in one corner, I CAREFULLY bent them back, and the CPU now sits in the slot as if nothing happened, i mean it drops right in.

Did I Damaget something, what am i suppose to do if the AS5 bonds that well? will it pull my cpu every time?

Ah! Combined with the fans plugged into the m/b that could be the reason for the problem. Increasing the voltage may have finally fried something on the motherboard.

PSU of 350watts is just too weak for your hardware. 480watts with 7 fans, cpu, a Geforce 2 Ti, 1 hard drive, 2 CD/RW and a Enermax baybus is too much for mine, it literally pauses on reboot because it doesn't have enough peak power to fire all the hardware at once (even if the room was at 65F).

Try getting another PSU (you'll be needing it if you're OCing anyway -- 480watts or above if you want everything).