HELP!! Cox.net wants to TERMINATE my account because of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act! *posted email*

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I work for a telco/ISP and last week we received a similar e-mail from Universal Studios. They asked us to terminate an account because one of our clients had downloaded some movie from emule/edonkey. We told them to come with a legal warrant. No legal warrant, no actions from our side.


plain and simple

:Q they're watching edonkey/emule now? fawk

 

[astroview]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I work for a telco/ISP and last week we received a similar e-mail from Universal Studios. They asked us to terminate an account because one of our clients had downloaded some movie from emule/edonkey. We told them to come with a legal warrant. No legal warrant, no actions from our side.


plain and simple

:Q they're watching edonkey/emule now? fawk

Private companies don't need warrants.

 

[Kev]

call them up to verify, i'll bet this is a gag that someone is sending out to different cox email accounts.

it doesn't make any sense for an ISP to be doing this - they want your business, why would they go out of their way to lose it?

edit: nevermind, i finally read the actual email. still seems fishy though

 

[tm37]

If the ISP doesn't kill his account they could be liable for his distributing the infringing content.

They are actually going after Emule/Edonkey? For downloading? Actually if you are downloading you are also uploading at the same time.

I am sure geeks will find another way to share the fruits of other's labors though

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Move to Canada.

- M4H

 

[kaizersose]

i couldnt understand the email.

did they nail him for HOSTING or for DOWNLOADING it? i didnt think those enforcement companies could scan traffic, only hosted files?

 

[HappyPuppy]

In order to comply with all the conditions stated he would have to admit, in writing, that he has been guilty of the accusations. To do so would be the epitomy of ignorance. He could be opening himself and possibly his parents to a lawsuit.

I agree with some of the others. Wipe your harddrive, write 0's several times and reinstall your legal OS and software. Contact Cox and, if possible, WB and tell them you are baffled at the allegations and would like to see some proof.

College kids, our future, getting caught at something so stupid. I fear for the future of the U.S.

 

[MithShrike]

Can they scan KaZaa Lite?

 

[flamingelephant]

Don?t do it!!! What they want you do to is basically admit that you did something wrong. Why bother? What?s the worst they can do? Terminate your account? Its like saying yup, I did it, I just proved it, now come haul me away.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Mith
Can they scan KaZaa Lite?

No. They can scan Kazaa, eDonkey, eMule, and lots of other p2p software --but not kazaa lite!

WHAT DO YOU THINK!?

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Mith
Can they scan KaZaa Lite?

No. They can scan Kazaa, eDonkey, eMule, and lots of other p2p software --but not kazaa lite!

WHAT DO YOU THINK!?

Your ISP can scan Kazaa Lite, but the latest version has an IP blocking feature that, as I said before, blocks access to your computer by the record/movie industry, or their hired guns for that matter.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: astroview

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I work for a telco/ISP and last week we received a similar e-mail from Universal Studios. They asked us to terminate an account because one of our clients had downloaded some movie from emule/edonkey. We told them to come with a legal warrant. No legal warrant, no actions from our side.


plain and simple

:Q they're watching edonkey/emule now? fawk

Private companies don't need warrants.

maybe not in the USA but where I live we don't move before justice gets involved.
If we don't have a court order we don't give any information to whatever third party (Universal) and we don't close accounts.

and yes, they are watching edonkey. That why you have these little programs you can use to block certain IP ranges

 

[Vic]

1. Uninstall Kazaa
2. Delete stupid T3 movie from hard drives
3. Do nothing else.

Note this line in the email your received:

Accordingly, Cox will suspend your account and disable your connection to the Internet within 24 hours of your receipt of this email if the offending material is not removed.

All other courses of action refer to what you would have to do to have your account reinstated. OTOH, if you follow their instructions and remove the "offending material" within 24 hours of notification, then you have nothing to fear edit: as your account won't get suspended in the 1st place (so obviously it wouldn't have to be reinstated).

Oh... and quit file sharing, eh?

 

[Rastus]

They don't have to scan anything. All they do is open Kazaa or any other p2p software and start downloading. They can tell the IP where they are getting the material from.

They don't even need a judge to get a subpoena under the DMCA. Just a low level clerk can issue it to them.

If you don't share, they probably can't tell who you are.

Just download from Canadians. Maybe it'll start a whole new industry for them. Kind of like the old pirate offshore radio stations. "I Heard it on the X -- ZZTop"

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Rastus
They don't have to scan anything. All they do is open Kazaa or any other p2p software and start downloading. They can tell the IP where they are getting the material from.

Hence the Kazaa Lite "Block bad IPs" option.

I know I'm kinda going overboard with this, but that's how it works. I find it amusing that what seems to be the most brainless p2p network is the one with a mod out with some of the better privacy protection options.

 

[Rastus]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Rastus
They don't have to scan anything. All they do is open Kazaa or any other p2p software and start downloading. They can tell the IP where they are getting the material from.

Hence the Kazaa Lite "Block bad IPs" option.

I know I'm kinda going overboard with this, but that's how it works. I find it amusing that what seems to be the most brainless p2p network is the one with a mod out with some of the better privacy protection options.

If you think Kazaa Lite's "Block bad IPs" option is going to even slow them down, I've got some ocean front property to sell you. That sceneario only works if they can't get any more IP's.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Rastus

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Rastus
They don't have to scan anything. All they do is open Kazaa or any other p2p software and start downloading. They can tell the IP where they are getting the material from.

Hence the Kazaa Lite "Block bad IPs" option.

I know I'm kinda going overboard with this, but that's how it works. I find it amusing that what seems to be the most brainless p2p network is the one with a mod out with some of the better privacy protection options.

If you think Kazaa Lite's "Block bad IPs" option is going to even slow them down, I've got some ocean front property to sell you. That sceneario only works if they can't get any more IP's.

Who owns what IPs is public knowledge; you can simply do a whois lookup and find out. It's not too hard to add a few more IPs to the range.

 

[Rastus]

You don't have to own an IP to surf the net on it and gather evidence. I could do it from a public library. Or my home, on a private ISP, and whois isn't going to tell anybody who I am.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Rastus

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Rastus
They don't have to scan anything. All they do is open Kazaa or any other p2p software and start downloading. They can tell the IP where they are getting the material from.

Hence the Kazaa Lite "Block bad IPs" option.

I know I'm kinda going overboard with this, but that's how it works. I find it amusing that what seems to be the most brainless p2p network is the one with a mod out with some of the better privacy protection options.

If you think Kazaa Lite's "Block bad IPs" option is going to even slow them down, I've got some ocean front property to sell you. That sceneario only works if they can't get any more IP's.

Who owns what IPs is public knowledge; you can simply do a whois lookup and find out. It's not too hard to add a few more IPs to the range.

or you can just go here and make a nice IPtables config out of it. (that's what I do)

 

[tm37]

So you can download movies off kazaa?

 

[BooGiMaN]

how exactly do u format and write zeros to the drive?

 

[Talon02]

You're not going to some white collar resort prison, you're going to federal pound you in the @ss prison.

 

[oniq]

Wait.. how did they find out it was the actual movie? Did they download it from you? If so, why can they download it and you can't?

 

[Rastus]

Originally posted by: oniq
Wait.. how did they find out it was the actual movie? Did they download it from you? If so, why can they download it and you can't?

They can download it all they want, and share it, if they want, because they own the copywrite to it.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Rastus
You don't have to own an IP to surf the net on it and gather evidence. I could do it from a public library. Or my home, on a private ISP, and whois isn't going to tell anybody who I am.

For it to hold up in court you do. That or have a legal agreement with the ISP to gather information, which is also public information. As unpopular as the RIAA is they sure as hell aren't going to leave their asses open to a harrassment lawsuit by not doing this by the book.