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Razersoda

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Hello AT'ers,
I'm planning on buying a new Desktop PC. So I found one in my local shop, I need you to tell me if its a good computer or not?

Intel i5 Ivy Gamer Window
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) with Freezer 13 Pro Cooler
8GB DDR3 1600MHz
Intel B75A (motherboard)
Nvidia GTX560Ti 1GB GDDR5
1TB SATA
520w Seasonic
Body : Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
No OP system.

Price: 799€ = 1051.28$ (Note: In my country some things are more expensive than anywhere else)

So what do you think, is it worth buying?

-Razersoda
 
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Just now found another PC.
EVERYTHING is the same, but:
Intel i5 3350p 3,1 GHz
nVidia GeForce GTX560 1GB (notice it doesnt have ti there)
It has windows 7 on it.
 
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If they are the same price, the first PC is the much better one. Unless it dont come with an OS.
 
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Considering you live in a foreign country where I have no idea on the local pricing, I will abstain from commenting on the cost.

All of that looks fairly good, but I would make a few changes :

(1)- 2500k is fine if it's cheaper. It's just as fast once you take overclocking into account (and perhaps even faster depending on luck). If you're not overclocking, don't get a K chip. Also if you're not overclocking, Ivy Bridge (3XXX chips) are slightly better than Sandy Bridge (2XXX chips).

(2)- You want a Z77 Motherboard instead of the B75. For a bunch of reasons not worth going into here, but trust me, it's better for you.

(3)- That GPU is a strange one. If you're on a midrange budget, look for : AMD 7850 or better, or Nvidia 660 or better. You don't want anything from Nvidia from the 5xx generation, or AMD from the 6xxx generation. They were fine cards in their day, but there is zero reason to buy one today. Also, you want 2GB of Vram at minimum for today's games, let alone tomorrow's. That's one reason I recommend the 7950/7970 3GB cards, even though I'm a happy owner of a GTX 670 FTW 2GB.

(4)- If you can afford it, go ahead and get at least a 120GB SSD drive for your boot drive. Keep a 500GB or 1TB drive for storage, and you can set the pathways for Documents, Pictures, Music, Downloads, etc to automatically save to the large HDD, leaving room on the SSD for Windows and your most used apps. It makes a gigantic difference in performance. HDD performance has been fairly stagnant for years now, and SSDs are a monumental leap forward.
 
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Lifer
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MentalIlness said:
If they are the same price, the first PC is the much better one. Unless it dont come with an OS.
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I agree. However, if the price difference is significant and the OP isn't going to overclock, they should actually be nearly the same performance (GPU limited in any case with that 560ti).
 
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Arkaign said:
Considering you live in a foreign country where I have no idea on the local pricing, I will abstain from commenting on the cost.

All of that looks fairly good, but I would make a few changes :

(1)- 2500k is fine if it's cheaper. It's just as fast once you take overclocking into account (and perhaps even faster depending on luck). If you're not overclocking, don't get a K chip. Also if you're not overclocking, Ivy Bridge (3XXX chips) are slightly better than Sandy Bridge (2XXX chips).

(2)- You want a Z77 Motherboard instead of the B75. For a bunch of reasons not worth going into here, but trust me, it's better for you.

(3)- That GPU is a strange one. If you're on a midrange budget, look for : AMD 7850 or better, or Nvidia 660 or better. You don't want anything from Nvidia from the 5xx generation, or AMD from the 6xxx generation. They were fine cards in their day, but there is zero reason to buy one today. Also, you want 2GB of Vram at minimum for today's games, let alone tomorrow's. That's one reason I recommend the 7950/7970 3GB cards, even though I'm a happy owner of a GTX 670 FTW 2GB.

(4)- If you can afford it, go ahead and get at least a 120GB SSD drive for your boot drive. Keep a 500GB or 1TB drive for storage, and you can set the pathways for Documents, Pictures, Music, Downloads, etc to automatically save to the large HDD, leaving room on the SSD for Windows and your most used apps. It makes a gigantic difference in performance. HDD performance has been fairly stagnant for years now, and SSDs are a monumental leap forward.
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Yes, I'd like to buy part by part, but I don't exactly know how to build a computer neither do I want to pay someone do to the work for me, thats why I'm probably going to buy a PC straight from the store.

Annother computer I found would be pretty good too, but it has a weird processor. Plus I dont know anything about motherboards... The page for that is http://arvutikeskus.ee/est/TOOTEKAT...KESKUS-PC23/Arvutikeskus-AMD-Bulldozer-139110 I hope you understand the specs atleast below on the page :D

Edit: I dont think im going to overclock... I dont know what that exactly means and dont want to screw things up lol
 
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Ah, I don't normally recommend Bulldozer systems, but that system's GPU is MUCH better than the 560ti 1GB. For gaming, that last one would be better.
 
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Arkaign said:
Ah, I don't normally recommend Bulldozer systems, but that system's GPU is MUCH better than the 560ti 1GB. For gaming, that last one would be better.
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Thanks for verifying that. Yes I do plan gaming with the PC. At least what I read on the web the FX-6100 is very bad for gaming as it doesnt support 95% (?) of applications very well... so idk, there is no perfect computer for me, Dang. :D
 
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However, if I'm going to upgrade my old Ordi House ( http://www.kompu.ee/pildid/1_19267.jpg Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300, 2GB DDR2, 512MB ATI Radeon HD 4350 ) Then what parts exactly I have to buy. Processor, Cooling, Graphics Card, ... .

I am Really sorry if I'm asking way too stupid and newb questions. :D
 
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Why don't you watch NewEgg's how to build a PC video. It's really easy... Plus a learning experience. There are plenty of how to videos on Youtube as well.

Link the site of where you would buy the parts. Someone here on this thread will price out a PC for you within your budget. Take a couple hours and put it together.. Someone is always here on this forum to answer your questions.
 
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Razersoda said:
Thats a big shame. No delivery to me, Estonia. :(
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Check into this :

http://www.alfasent.com/

Cliffs, you can use that service to order something from a UK vendor to be sent to Alfasent's UK Address, and then you can have them ship it to you directly from there. Obviously shipping costs will be a little higher overall with that setup, but it may save you money if your local suppliers are very expensive (that PC I linked above is much better than the other ones in the thread).
 
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Arkaign said:
Check into this :

http://www.alfasent.com/

Cliffs, you can use that service to order something from a UK vendor to be sent to Alfasent's UK Address, and then you can have them ship it to you directly from there. Obviously shipping costs will be a little higher overall with that setup, but it may save you money if your local suppliers are very expensive (that PC I linked above is much better than the other ones in the thread).
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Yes, ofcourse its better, it costs 300€ more too...
 
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Vaata arvutikeskus.ee foorumisse, seal pannakse sinu hinnaklassi järgi parim arvuti kokku ja saad isegi kokkupanemisteenuse valida.

I'm Estonian too, so I wanted to explain in our language. :)
 
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Face2Face said:
Why don't you watch NewEgg's how to build a PC video. It's really easy... Plus a learning experience. There are plenty of how to videos on Youtube as well.

Link the site of where you would buy the parts. Someone here on this thread will price out a PC for you within your budget. Take a couple hours and put it together.. Someone is always here on this forum to answer your questions.
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Thank You, for introducing me to NewEgg, I'll watch all of them and probably then start building one myself.
 
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xTremor said:
Vaata arvutikeskus.ee foorumisse, seal pannakse sinu hinnaklassi järgi parim arvuti kokku ja saad isegi kokkupanemisteenuse valida.

I'm Estonian too, so I wanted to explain in our language. :)
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Ohoo eestlane :D
Jah ma olen vaadanud arvutikeskusest arvuteid aga ei teadnud, et seal arvutit kokku saab panna, uurin. Tänan :)

Edit: Ei suuda leida Arvutikeskusest kohta, kus arvutit kokku panna. Lisaks veel küsimus et mis poode veel on Eestis, mis müüvad arvuti osi. Mida arvad nt: atf arvutisalongist? või tuleks osta arvutikeskusest? Hind enamvähem sama
 
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Razersoda

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So after 1 day of searching on the internet and comparing everything and with some help from this forum and some others I have come to a conclusion that I'm going to upgrade my old PC:

Motherboard: ASUS MB Z77 S1155 ATX/P8Z77-V ASUS
Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE HD7870 2GB GDDR5 PCIE16 11199-00-20G
RAM: G.skill F3-1600C9D-8GAB PC3-12800 / DDR3 1600 Mhz 2 x 4GB 9-9-9 1.5 V Ares
CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 13 CPU Cooler - 92mm
Power Supply: CORSAIR PSU CXV2 600W 12CM ATX12V2.3 80+ CMPSU-600CXV2EU
Case Cooler: BitFenix Spectre PRO 120mm fan - all black

Could I have a final verify from this forum too, that all the parts are compatible with each other, that would be nice :)

Thanks, Razersoda-
 
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IMO I would get the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H but that is my preference as I have that board and love it...

I would get a 1GHZ edition if you get a 7870

but other than that should be fine. I also have GSkill RAM in my Gigabyte board as posted above and works without errors... So you should be safe with that regard.

Best of luck! and have FUN!!! Game on gamer!
 
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