Help burning a 708MB video file onto a CD

QueHuong

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I have a Verbatim 32x, which is a rebadged Lite-On. I'm wondering if I can burn a >700MB CD-R; I think there's a fairly new CD-R technology that has 750 MB, but I'm not sure. If there is, can my Lite-On be able to burn it?

I would prefer to trim the video file, if possible. Like those MP3 trimming programs, is there one that allows me to set the start time or end time so I can crop the beginning or end of the file? It's an .avi file, probably a DivX. Actually, I have other videos I'm trying to crop, and they include mpegs and regular .avi.

And do I have any other options for fitting a large video file onto a CD?
 

bmacd

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there are several programs that will tell you that max recording time of a CD, but on the case of my Sony CD-Rs, it says "Actual Recording Time: 79min 57 sec". BUT....i think i've overburned that number before, but i could be mistaken.

-=bmacd=-
 

Lonyo

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You could just try overburning a 700MB CD. I got something like 702MB on a 700MB CD with no problem. You'll probably be able to get the extra 8 megs on with an overburn if your writer is able to do it.
 

bmacd

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Sometimes there are sideeffects to overburning...like unusable data CD or on the last audio CD i overburned, i wasn't able to change tracks....they have to play all the way through or i have to seek forward to each track.

-=bmacd=-
 

Legendary

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IIRC overburning is just burning on the TOC - so as long as you're not really using your TOC (like an audio CD or a multisession) you should be alright.
 

QueHuong

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I dont' know if my writer can overburn and I'm reluctant to test it. What I'm really looking for is more info on those over 700MB cd-r discs and a file that can trim a video file.
 

abc

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yeah, i got a bunch of 90min. cdrs a few months ago when i wanted to use them, but even with nero and a plextor (iomega flashed) and selected single session burning and seleted overburn enable, when i initate the burn is when nero halts, saying i exceeded the capacity of 650MB or something like that, so I don't get it.
 
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Originally posted by: MindStorm
I dont' know if my writer can overburn and I'm reluctant to test it. What I'm really looking for is more info on those over 700MB cd-r discs and a file that can trim a video file.

Get the model number of your burner, and we can help you more. :)

Reluctant to test? It's one stinkin' CD ... burn it up! :D

Over 700MB CD-Rs - there exist 90 and 99 minute discs for 800 and 876MB respectively. Way overkill for a 708MB file.

Trimming - VirtualDub.

/owns Mitsumi CR-4809TE - up to 99:04 burn time, 880MB :Q

- M4H
 

GigaCluster

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A standard CD has A LOT of space occupied by error-correcting codes -- over 100 MB. For example, when I burn a 700 MB ISO image using the Linux program "cdrecord", it tells me that in actuality, it's going to write over 800 MB of data to the disc. I think there is software that lets you write a CD with no or reduced error correction, to fit more of your files on the CD but with much less reliability. That might work for you, if you just need to transfer it. Do some research on that.
 

ElFenix

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if its an mpeg 1 file just burn it as a VCD, it'll fit fine
 

QueHuong

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Get the model number of your burner, and we can help you more.
LTR-32123S - it's a Verbatin 32x12x40 - it's a rebadged Lite-On, but I didn't use the firmware hack so the computer/Nero recognizes it as a Verbatim.

Reluctant to test? It's one stinkin' CD ... burn it up!
Nero gave a strong warning that overburning can ruin the drive, so that's why I'm hesitant to try.

Trimming - VirtualDub.
Just to make sure, it trims the file right? As in it just cuts out the beginning or end, according to my setting? I hope it doesn't have to actually open the file, crop it, then resave the cropped version, which will probably take a long time.
 

thomsbrain

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for trimming, use VitualDub or NanDub. You just press "Home" then "Control-Shift-J" and enter in 699 MB (700 will make it too big for some reason), and hit enter. Then you save the avi and you're good to go.
 

TNTrulez

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Originally posted by: MindStorm
Get the model number of your burner, and we can help you more.
LTR-32123S - it's a Verbatin 32x12x40 - it's a rebadged Lite-On, but I didn't use the firmware hack so the computer/Nero recognizes it as a Verbatim.

Reluctant to test? It's one stinkin' CD ... burn it up!
Nero gave a strong warning that overburning can ruin the drive, so that's why I'm hesitant to try.


Pussy
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: TNTrulez
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Get the model number of your burner, and we can help you more.
LTR-32123S - it's a Verbatin 32x12x40 - it's a rebadged Lite-On, but I didn't use the firmware hack so the computer/Nero recognizes it as a Verbatim.

Reluctant to test? It's one stinkin' CD ... burn it up!
Nero gave a strong warning that overburning can ruin the drive, so that's why I'm hesitant to try.


Pussy

harsh!
 

stevewm

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If you burn the disc in Mode 2 format you can fit 760MB. In fact this why VCD/SVCD and Audio CDs hold 760MB, they are Mode 2 discs. Mode 2 drops error correction giving you around 60MB more space on a 700MB disc.
 

abc

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for trimming, use VitualDub or NanDub. You just press "Home" then "Control-Shift-J" and enter in 699 MB (700 will make it too big for some reason), and hit enter. Then you save the avi and you're good to go.



just what exactly is being trimmed... if one has a 710mb video file, the actual video is being trimmed and one would miss the closing credits? or is some redundant data or is some kind of compression being applied and expendable data is being tossed out?
 

abc

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If you burn the disc in Mode 2 format you can fit 760MB. In fact this why VCD/SVCD and Audio CDs hold 760MB, they are Mode 2 discs. Mode 2 drops error correction giving you around 60MB more space on a 700MB disc.

is this 60 mb of error correction data that would be used when the video is being played?
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: TNTrulez
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Get the model number of your burner, and we can help you more.
LTR-32123S - it's a Verbatin 32x12x40 - it's a rebadged Lite-On, but I didn't use the firmware hack so the computer/Nero recognizes it as a Verbatim.

Reluctant to test? It's one stinkin' CD ... burn it up!
Nero gave a strong warning that overburning can ruin the drive, so that's why I'm hesitant to try.


Pussy

harsh!

Pansy!