Help Building a New Computer

snakenobi

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I am building a new computer,please help me build it.
I normally only learn about computer hardware when i am buying or upgrading the hardware and then i lose track.So i might not know a few things though i have mentioned all my queries below.
I am trying to build a system that would last and as interconnected and wireless as possible.
I will be using it for :

Video Games
Video Editing
Audio Editing
Image Editing
Display forPC,TV,PS3
Heaphones for TV,PC,PS3,Phone(if Headphone are bluetooth)
Router for 2 home PC,1 phone,Media Server,PS3,TV(if Display is internet connected)
Dual Shock 3 Connection
Virtual OS operations
Hackintosh(So only Intel processors)
DLNA - Media Server,Android devices,Apple devices
Wireless File and Date Transfer to PC - Android with bluetooth to PC

Products and Technology :
CPUProcessor - 4-6 Cores,Overclock Support
Motherboard - PCE-E,USB,SATA,Ethernet,DVI,HDMI 1.4,Display Port,Wi-Fi,Bluetooth,Optical Audio,Integrated Card Support,Overclock Support,multi-GPU support
GPUGraphic Card - Memory,Multiple Display Support,3D Displays,Dual GPU,Resolution 1080p or better
HDD - 2 -3.5tb
RAM - 8+gb
Display - 24 -27inch,Resolution 1080p or more,Contrasts,Colors,DVI,Display Ports,HDMI,Wi-fi,USB,Bluetooth,Speakers,Headphones
Speakers - More Channels,Wireless Streaming
Headphones - Noise Cancellation,Microphone,Blue-tooth,Wireless,More Channels,Bluetooth,Battery Life
Router - Gigabit Ethernet,Wireless standard N.Good Wireless bandwidth,NAS,DLNA
Heatsinks and Coolers
Power Supply

Some Question's from my side :
CPU :

Xeon gaming and normal apps - How is Xeon on Gaming and Normal PC applications?
i7 Extreme Sandy Bridge - Is this required for my usage and will it be worth it?
Core i7 First Gen Core systems - So Sandy Bridge Extreme Processors are very expensive but 970 and 980 6 core Westmere CPU's cost only $500.Is that a bargain and Is buying 1 year old processors good?

i7 2600K - Will this be enought for me?
i5 2500K - Will this be enought for me?

Core vs thread - so AMD vs Intel,AMD provides more Cores but Intel does threading.Whats the difference?
Duration Without Update - How long each of them will be enough to perform the heavy task applications,2-3 years?
Motherboard :

Sound Card - Is it Required or Motherboard will take care of it
Wi-Fi Card - Is it Required or Motherboard will take care of it
Blue-tooth Card - Is it Required or Motherboard will take care of it
SATA 3 and PCI-E 3
Duration Without Update - How long will this be enough to perform the heavy task applications,2-3 years?
RAM :

Channels - How many channels is good?
Speed - Whats the difference between different 'mhz'?
Duratin Without Update - How long will this be enough to perform the heavy task applications,2-3 years?
GPU:

Cores - I read this when checking out Nvidia Cards,they have 100's of cores.What do they mean?
Speed - How much is good as in 'hz'?
Bandwidth - How much bandwidth is good?
Duration Without Update - How long will latest GPU's be enough to perform the heavy task applications,2-3 years?
Display:
What Aspect ratio should the Display have as WEB is designed 4:3 and many movies have 21:9 ratio.
Do the multidisplays connection to GPU share resolution in output of do they have 2 x resolutions coming out of GPU?
Heatsinks and Coolers:
Are liquid Coolers really required?
Fans vs Liquid Coolers?
Are heatsinks required?
What all components can and should have heatsinks and cooler?I see them on RAM these days
Wireless :
Wireless Headphones,Keyboard,Mouse,Router - What does range in 'HZ' mean
Will different wireless technologies interfere with each other?
Speakers and Headphones - Standard - What do different Standards like dolby,true HD differ?
Power Supply - How Many Watts Should my Power Supply be and what all Sockets Should it have?
Keyboard
- Do i need to my two keyboards? Ergonomic keyboards for typing and SonyApple Wireless keyboard or just one?
Mouse - Do i need to my two mouse? Ergonomic mouse for gaming and MicrosoftApple touch mouse or just one?
Optical Drive - Should I buy a Blu-ray Drive?
Webcam
- I Don't Video Chat much and have iphone as a video chat,should it buy one?
Printer
- I make alot of notes and i like them clean and formatted but should i go far to buy a printer on do it on paper and phone
Tablet or netbook or ultrabook
- I have an iphone 64gb and will have a good PC.Is there a need for medium screen portable device?

Please Help in the following way:
Technology - As in what all tech is needed to make it possible like technical information like cores,wi-fi,pci express,aspect ratio,memory,etc
Products - Products on the market that will make it all possible like Intel,Nvidia,Evga,Asus,Apple,Cisco,etc and their different product lineup's.
Suggestions - Suggest what configurations will be good for my usage like xeon,core i extreme,core i7,12gb ram,etc
 

jpeyton

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I'll try to answer as many questions as possible:

Sandy Bridge Xeons may require server motherboards, which in turn require more expensive ECC memory. Performance is identical to their i5/i7 counterparts.

i7 Extreme is not required for your usage.

i7 Westmere hex-core is not required for your usage. You will get similar or better performance in most tasks with a Sandy Bridge i7 quad-core.

Given that you want to edit video, I recommend the i7-2600k CPU; hyper-threading is useful for encoding.

AMD offers more "cores", but Intel offers much better performance per core. So much better that a quad-core i7 Sandy Bridge is much faster than an 8-core AMD Bulldozer.

Sandy Bridge will offer very relevant performance at stock speeds for the next 18-24 months. If you overclock, which is very easy with the i7-2600k CPU, you will get much more useful life out of your system.

Sound card will be integrated on your motherboard.

Wi-Fi will not be integrated; get a cheap USB WiFi adapter.

Bluetooth will not be integrated; get a cheap USB Bluetooth adapter.

Socket 1155 is dual-channel DDR3. Buy your RAM in pairs; DDR3 1600 is the ideal speed.

GPU cores aren't directly comparable between ATI and Nvidia. Core speeds are also not directly comparable. You will need to look at actual benchmarks to see how they compare.

The best display for your purposes would be a Dell U2412M IPS monitor. It's 16:10 1920x1200 pixels, and it's fantastic for design and video use, while reasonably priced around $300/unit (get two if you're a serious multi-tasker).

Liquid coolers are not required. There are many air coolers that perform just as well and are just as quiet; Noctua, Thermalright and Prolimatech make great CPU coolers.

Heatsinks on RAM are not required; motherboards come with heatsinks already installed on the chipset.

Wireless interference can be a real issue. Most wireless devices, including WiFi routers and wireless mice/keyboards operate at 2.4GHz. A quality WiFi router will have dual-band capability and can also operate at 5GHz, which has less interference. Cisco makes great routers; I highly recommend the E2500 or E3000 (both are dual-band routers).

A quality 500W power supply (Corsair, Seasonic, etc.) is enough for a i7 quad-core and single graphics card.

Two keyboards seems like overkill; get one quality unit. Get one quality mouse as well. Logitech is my go-to brand for keyboards and mice.

Buy a Blu-Ray drive if you plan on watching Blu-Ray movies only. If not, save your money and get a DVD drive.

Webcams are inexpensive. Logitech makes good units, but you should only buy one if you plan on using it.

Printers are useful to have; get a Canon unit with a 5-color ink tank. But try to save paper when possible and take notes on your phone/computer using apps like Evernote.
 

snakenobi

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The best display for your purposes would be a Dell U2412M IPS monitor. It's 16:10 1920x1200 pixels, and it's fantastic for design and video use, while reasonably priced around $300/unit (get two if you're a serious multi-tasker).

Wireless interference can be a real issue. Most wireless devices, including WiFi routers and wireless mice/keyboards operate at 2.4GHz. A quality WiFi router will have dual-band capability and can also operate at 5GHz, which has less interference. Cisco makes great routers; I highly recommend the E2500 or E3000 (both are dual-band routers).

whats the difference between cisco old dual band routers and the new ones

the new one also don't have LED indicators

as for diaplays,wouldn't 16:9 be better,16:10 would have bigger black lines

can you also tell me whats tft?

and pva panels

i know tn and ips panels
 

fralexandr

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1920x1200 will offer more resolution for doing "work" = other stuff (image editing, etc) with, 1920x1080 will fit more with "entertainment" = gaming/movie watching

if going 1920x1080, the 23" dell u2312 is $300 atm (drops to $230 periodically)
or you could always go with a cheap 32" 1080p TV and use hdmi and enable some 1:1 pixel mapping option thing, or some other setting designed for TV use on a computer source

mpva is typically considered great for photo editing/movies, but poor for gaming due to input lag/ghosting
the technologies have been changing, so this isn't so drastically the case anymore
whether the ghosting and input lag is noticeable is up to the individual, my cousin gamed on a mpva for a while

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/specs.htm
a quick run down on some terms
 
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mfenn

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whats the difference between cisco old dual band routers and the new ones

Obligatory yearly refresh? Just make sure whatever you buy is supported by dd-wrt and you should be golen.


as for diaplays,wouldn't 16:9 be better,16:10 would have bigger black lines

But 16:9 monitors have less area to being with.

can you also tell me whats tft?

Thin-film transistor. All LCDs are this.

and pva panels

i know tn and ips panels

Patterned vertical alignment. It's a type of panel commonly used for TVs because it has wide viewing angles without the cost of IPS. Otherwise it is similar to TN in quality.

Also, can you answer the questions from the sticky? You have covered most in your OP, but left out a few critical ones.
 

snakenobi

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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Video Games
Video Editing
Audio Editing
Image Editing
Display forPC,TV,PS3
Heaphones for TV,PC,PS3,Phone(if Headphone are bluetooth)
Router for 2 home PC,1 phone,Media Server,PS3,TV(if Display is internet connected)
Dual Shock 3 Connection
Virtual OS operations
Hackintosh(So only Intel processors)
DLNA - Media Server,Android devices,Apple devices
Wireless File and Date Transfer to PC - Android with bluetooth to PC

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

$3000-4000

though i live in india where prices vary a bit

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

mostly india

but am looking internationally for a few part like headphones,gpu,etc which aren't available in my country in that much variety

but it should have international warranty for india

4. IF YOU have a
brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.


not really

5. If YOU intend on
using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.


nothing

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

nope

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

yah in the future but not in the first 6 months if it does video encoding smoothly

i would like to know the lifecycle of overclock products though and the warranty being void

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.

1080p but might go higher in the future

there jst aren't monitors with higher resolutions in my country

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?

next 5 days

10.
Don't ask for a build configuration critique or rating if you are thin skinned.


didn't understand
 

mfenn

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OOOK, so your budget is about three times what you need for 1080P gaming and prosumer video encoding. Not knowing exact products and pricing that is available to you, here's a general outline of what you could get:

i7 2600K
Z68 mobo such as ASRock Z68 Extreme3, Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, ASUS P8Z68
16GB of DDR3 1333/1600 1.5V RAM
6950 2GB (or two if you really want to get high framerates in games)
128GB Crucial M4
As many 1-2TB Samsung or Hitachi HDDs as you need
BD-RW drive
750W good quality power supply (Corsair, XFX, Antec, Seasonic)
Fractal Design R3 or Antec P280
PCIe Wifi card
USB Bluetooth adapter
27" 1080P monitor (Samsung, ASUS, and Acer have several)
Whatever KB, mouse, and headset you like

All of that should run you $1500-$2000.