HELP - best driver for a fx5200 card

ZL1

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Hi

guys whats the best driver for a fx5200 card ? I tried the newest and I tried 44.03 but I keep having problems
which one would be best ?


please let me know


Thank you
Dan
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: tenoc
Info? You really haven't provided any.

well its a t-bird 1.33 on a k7s5a with 512mb of pc133, the chipset is sis 735
Im trying to install FX5200 card and Im getting some weird problems, the comp might hang now and then, the graphics might get screwed up some other times, generally fun
and I know that with TI series the 44.03 driver is the best thing to use (with the newest one it might act up) so I was hoping that there is a best driver for FX as well


Thanks
Dan


PS: DirectX 8.1b
 

Mem

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Did you install the latest SiS AGP driver for your board?Also I would run Driver Cleaner (follow the instructions) and reinstall the latest 52.16 drivers again.


Driver Cleaner link .


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ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
Did you install the latest SiS AGP driver for your board?Also I would run Driver Cleaner (follow the instructions) and reinstall the latest 52.16 drivers again.


Driver Cleaner link .


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Hi

yes did the sis drv
I'll try the cleaner and 52s, thanks !


Thanks
Dan
 

duane26

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I have a Fx5200 and was having similar problems with drivers from nividia. Everytime I would go into the driver options my screen would flash, I would get booted off while playing some games. So the best driver for the Fx 5200? Their isn't one, I went out and bought a BBA Radeon 9800 pro and wwwwoooowwww!!!!What a difference! I did a complete reformat on my hardrive and have enjoyed a new level of gaming!Just beat Max Payne 2, now the detail in that game is great. And remember christmas is coming. Sorry if I got off the subject, it's just there is nothing out there to help Nividia's crappy fx lineup.
 

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Originally posted by: duane26
I have a Fx5200 and was having similar problems with drivers from nividia. Everytime I would go into the driver options my screen would flash, I would get booted off while playing some games. So the best driver for the Fx 5200? Their isn't one, I went out and bought a BBA Radeon 9800 pro and wwwwoooowwww!!!!What a difference! I did a complete reformat on my hardrive and have enjoyed a new level of gaming!Just beat Max Payne 2, now the detail in that game is great. And remember christmas is coming. Sorry if I got off the subject, it's just there is nothing out there to help Nividia's crappy fx lineup.

Duane26,

I am having a similar problem with a PNY Ti4400. I will be trying a new power supply to see if that helps.

What operating system are you using?
What wattage power supply are you using?
What brand of video card is it?

Thanks!
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
Did you install the latest SiS AGP driver for your board?Also I would run Driver Cleaner (follow the instructions) and reinstall the latest 52.16 drivers again.


Driver Cleaner link .


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couldnt get it running right :(
weird stuff, could the board the at fault ? with my old tnt2 it works aok


Thanks
Dan
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: duane26
I have a Fx5200 and was having similar problems with drivers from nividia. Everytime I would go into the driver options my screen would flash, I would get booted off while playing some games. So the best driver for the Fx 5200? Their isn't one, I went out and bought a BBA Radeon 9800 pro and wwwwoooowwww!!!!What a difference! I did a complete reformat on my hardrive and have enjoyed a new level of gaming!Just beat Max Payne 2, now the detail in that game is great. And remember christmas is coming. Sorry if I got off the subject, it's just there is nothing out there to help Nividia's crappy fx lineup.


wish I had that kind of money ...


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Mem

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ZL1 , OK so it`s random ,try the card in another PC since it does sound like it`s faulty.
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
ZL1 ,we need more details like exact problems you`re getting?

Hi

it will simply freezed durring a game, was playing fallout tactics the other day, its not a very heavy game (I mean even a TNT2 can take it ) and it froze :(


Thanks
Dan
 

Mem

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Few things you could try, as stated try it in another PC to rule out a faulty card,then if it`s not faulty keep PCi slot one empty(nearest to agp slot) also what PSU do you have?

Other things to try are slower ram timing in BIOS,disable all video shadowing,disable video ram cacheable,how`s your case cooling try it with case open?

I`m guessing at this stage it sounds like a bad card but you need to test it in another PC .


it will simply freezed durring a game, was playing fallout tactics

I presume it also freezes on other games as well?
 

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ZL1,
There are quite a few different ECS K7S5A board models available do you know what model version you `ve ie is it a Pro V5 or V3.1 or V1.1 etc,the reason I ask is I can check the BIOS files for updates etc which might be related.

Btw the latest SiS AGP driver is 117 ,I went to one ECS site and they still had an old version (110 )listed anyway you can download the latest 117 version from here (for all , 2K,XP,98 ,ME etc).
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
Few things you could try, as stated try it in another PC to rule out a faulty card,then if it`s not faulty keep PCi slot one empty(nearest to agp slot) also what PSU do you have?

Other things to try are slower ram timing in BIOS,disable all video shadowing,disable video ram cacheable,how`s your case cooling try it with case open?

I`m guessing at this stage it sounds like a bad card but you need to test it in another PC .


it will simply freezed durring a game, was playing fallout tactics

I presume it also freezes on other games as well?

Hi

I plan to try it in another machine, but I cant right now :(

PCI slot 1 always open
side panel off, been doing that for a long time :) pretty much since my first machine

bios settings not available :( yep very fun bios sitting in a ecs k7s5a

the psu is a cheap "arrow" :) 500w, I know its cheap and 500W is more like 300W but that should be enough though, amd 1.33 T, 512mb pc133, two old hdds (4200rpm), one dvd and thats about it
(I run MBM5 all the time and whenever I check the voltages they are pretty much up to spec)

yep it freezes in pretty much any game after a bit of playing, not long either


Thanks
Dan
 

Mem

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bios settings not available yep very fun bios sitting in a ecs k7s5a

My backup PC has an ECS K7S5A Pro V5 board and these options are available in BIOS, so try these settings ,system bios cacheable "disabled" ,SDR/DDR CAS latency "SPD" ,
Timing setting mode "normal",set AGP aperture size to 64mb or 128mb(try both).One last question are you using onboard sound?

 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
ZL1,
There are quite a few different ECS K7S5A board models available do you know what model version you `ve ie is it a Pro V5 or V3.1 or V1.1 etc,the reason I ask is I can check the BIOS files for updates etc which might be related.

Btw the latest SiS AGP driver is 117 ,I went to one ECS site and they still had an old version (110 )listed anyway you can download the latest 117 version from here (for all , 2K,XP,98 ,ME etc).


Hi

3.1 , I was actually just going to update the bios :)

Thanks for the sis driver tip ! I'll try that right away


Thanks
Dan
 

Mem

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You should install latest DX9.0b as well if you`ve not done so already.
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
bios settings not available yep very fun bios sitting in a ecs k7s5a

My backup PC has an ECS K7S5A Pro V5 board and these options are available in BIOS, so try these settings ,system bios cacheable "disabled" ,SDR/DDR CAS latency "SPD" ,
Timing setting mode "normal",set AGP aperture size to 64mb or 128mb(try both).One last question are you using onboard sound?

my ram settings are exactly like that, since its generic ram I didnt want to try anything :)
I'll change the bios cacheable option, but Im wondering why ?
agp is at 128, I'll try 64

yep using the onboard audio, why ?


Thanks
Dan
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
You should install latest DX9.0b as well if you`ve not done so already.


I thought of that, but I didnt want to because it kills my 3dmark2001se for some reason, when installed the mark will say it needs 8.1 to run
why wouldnt fx run ok on 8.1 ?


Thanks
Dan
 

Mem

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yep using the onboard audio, why ?


Just wondering,some game crashes can be sound driver related rather then video card related,however you did say you get corrupted graphics so in your case I`m 99% sure it`s a video card problem.


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I thought of that, but I didnt want to because it kills my 3dmark2001se for some reason, when installed the mark will say it needs 8.1 to run
why wouldnt fx run ok on 8.1 ?[/quote]

I remember that happen to me once with my ATi 9700NP ,anyway I unistalled 3Dmark2001SE and installed 3DMark03
,remember it`s only a benchmark and to me having DX9.0B installed is more important,besides you can install 3DMark03 if you want a benchmark,yes I know you`ll get a low score but hey it`s only a benchmark and you did buy your card to play games right ;) .
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
yep using the onboard audio, why ?


Just wondering,some game crashes can be sound driver related rather then video card related,however you did say you get corrupted graphics so in your case I`m 99% sure it`s a video card problem.
I thought of that, but I didnt want to because it kills my 3dmark2001se for some reason, when installed the mark will say it needs 8.1 to run
why wouldnt fx run ok on 8.1 ?[/quote]

I remember that happen to me once with my ATi 9700NP ,anyway I unistalled 3Dmark2001SE and installed 3DMark03
,remember it`s only a benchmark and to me having DX9.0B installed is more important,besides you can install 3DMark03 if you want a benchmark,yes I know you`ll get a low score but hey it`s only a benchmark and you did buy your card to play games right ;) .[/quote]


Hi

well I dont think its the sound because with the TNT2 it works

yes I know its just a benchmark, but I just built 2 comps for 2 friends and I benchmarked their machines and Im a bit benchmark happy right now :) + why wouldnt the card work with DX8 ?

update, i was using the TNT2 earlier since I couldnt get the FX running right, I disabled bios caching and installed the FX, ouch, now the screen is flashing for some reason randomly and windows just rebooted without a reason :)
by the way why disable bios caching ? Im just wondering what it does :)

update 2 : it only did the flashing the first boot after installing drivers, still odd, but it doest do that anymore, rebooted a couple times to make sure, odd but at least its not flashing :)


Thanks
Dan
 

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Video BIOS shadowing: Your system will perform better with this setting at disabled. As you can read in the MS Knowledge base, shadowing is not an advantage. Only enable this if you still use DOS mode a lot, where it can improve performance.

Video BIOS cacheable: set this to disabled. Your system does not access the video cards BIOS, it uses drivers to do so. Only enable this if you still use DOS mode games a lot, where it can improve performance.



System BIOS cacheable: set this to disabled. The system BIOS is very rarely accessed when you are using your PC after it boots up.


Good quide
here
 

Mem

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ZL1:This is the fix for your 3Dmark2001SE and DX9 problem,


Q: I installed DirectX 9 and now 3DMark2001 SE tells me that I need DirectX 8.1, what gives?
A: We have noticed this behavior and the solution is quite easy. Uninstall your 3DMark2001 SE, download the latest version (Build 330) if you don`t have it already, reboot your machine and install 3DMark2001 SE again.
 

ZL1

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Originally posted by: Mem
ZL1:This is the fix for your 3Dmark2001SE and DX9 problem,


Q: I installed DirectX 9 and now 3DMark2001 SE tells me that I need DirectX 8.1, what gives?
A: We have noticed this behavior and the solution is quite easy. Uninstall your 3DMark2001 SE, download the latest version (Build 330) if you don`t have it already, reboot your machine and install 3DMark2001 SE again.

yep thought of that, however when I tried installing DX9 I started getting some very odd errors, like this software hasnt passed windows testing :), and I got so pissed off that I turned it off and decided not to turn it back on until my new hdd arrives
looks like I'll have to reinstall the whole OS because something screwed up while I was trying this and that and since I'll have to do that when the new hdd arrives anyway I decided I'll just do it once + I'll get some peace meanwhile :)



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