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Hello? Where are all the PS2's Sony promised us?

kylef

Golden Member
Is anyone else curious why we haven't heard anything about production problems, yet these systems are still not available at our local retailers?

I'm starting to get a little suspicious myself... What's their angle? I guess the "shortage" will help keep the profit margins up at least...

But it's been more than 3 months since the release, and they're still nonexistant as far as I can see. I personally know only one person that owns one.

Does anyone know what's up? When will they ACTUALLY be available?
 
I saw them at Best Buy, had around 10 and there wasn't a mad rush for them. I would have picked up a couple for a few friends of mine who wanted one, of course they'd paid me back, but I didn't have the money on hand to get them.
 
i suggest waiting for the x-box. it is currently going to be a p3 733 w. a 8 gig hd onboard, and built in nic card. much better than the ps2 which is only a 400mhz processor and has no built in nic/hd. the x-box will probably start at the same price too, about 300 bucks. cant beat that
 
I heard from alot of different places they are manufacturing a few million and then they are gonna ship them world wide in March and the US is gonna get a million alone. Which I think this is true.


I am gonna try for both X-Box and PS2 but if I can't afford them both then its just according to what PS2 has to offer come March/April and what other info/games pops up on X-box.

 
<----- Waiting to be able to afford PS2 (I'm 15 w/ a crap job) so I can get GT3 when its out!
😀
 
You can't find them anywhere because Sony only seems to be shipping them to people who sell them as bundles for near $500.
 
Sony is just milking it.

I myself am waiting for the next PS2 revisions, and the price to be around the &quot;sweetspot&quot; $200 or when MGS2 is released (which ever comes first). I'm certainly interested in the X-box..it might steal my &quot;gaming funds&quot; front Sony in the longrun 😉
 
X-Box = Rip-off. All it is is a dedicated DirectX pc. Guess what? My pc does DirectX just as well, and lets me surf the web, email, type Word documents, make excel spreadsheets, do Powerpoint presentations, create / edit images with Photoshop, code Java, C+, HTML, render 3D objects with 3D Studio Max, burn cds with my Plextor, watch movies with my DVD drive, frag your ass on Q3 or Descent3 online, listen to mp3s, rip cds....Get the point?

P2 = Much bette rinvestment. Maybe not as graphically psychedelic as the X-Box, but at least it has backwards compatibility. Buy it, and your old games still work! Woo hoo! right there gives it a library of games that is tremendous, without even creating any specifically designed for the P2 architecture.

Ya, the XBox may be nice, but its way over-rated.....
 
but why buy the ps2 for playing the old games when there is always bleem? saves you 300 bucks right there, you can buy bleem for like 20
 
Who would buy a PS2 to play old games? There are definately NEW games that are releasing next month that may blow our socks off. As for the XBOX, I feel its just a mini PC.
 
i think the xbox is the thing that will finally link those who dont have computers and jsut video games systems to the computer users. since it is going to be so much a computer itself. the ps2 on the other hand is just another gaming system, which as i have seen from playing is much slower loading time than should be, considering its hype. i am sure the games will be nice, but sony has to give these babies some more ram (or the equivalent, whatever they got in these) so it can load the games faster. i would the nagree it to be a prime system and worthy of the money it costs. before then i would say xbox will prevail
 


<< much better than the ps2 which is only a 400mhz processor and has no built in nic/hd. >>



Wrong. The PS2 is equipped with a 128-bit, 300MHz processor (Emotion Engine).

The X-Box looks impressive on paper, but numbers don't always say everything. There's an awful lot of power in that &quot;little&quot; 300MHz CPU. It's a RISC architecture and it beats the P6 core's in floating point performance hands-down. The Pentium III is a multipurpose processor and will always be one. The EE was designed specifically for the PS2 and will perform that way with the right software. Raw MHz isn't the only attribute of a fast platform. In fact, the real power of the X-Box will come from its nVidia GPU. The unit's PIII core will only need to take of routines and AI engines at most; everything else is handled for the most part by dedicated processors. The unified memory architecture seems interesting and we'll see what becomes with it. But the fact remains that the PS2 is a solid product NOW and it's only getting better with projected game releases unleasing more of its hidden power.

About the PS2 shortage thing, there's definitely something here that Sony does not want to tell consumers. There's two theories to this mess. One is Sony's excuse: parts and material shortages. SUPPOSEDLY, Sony outsourced to Taiwan to fabricate more chips for the PS2. Hell, if that happened (I'm doubting it), we should be getting adequate shipments to meet the demand right now. That isn't happening though, which is why I believe in the second theory: strategic marketing. Cut down production and saturate the market with hype, resulting in quick sales. The N64 initially had a shortage during the holidays, but afterwards, it really wasn't too hard to stop by your local retailer and purchase one.

Something's up here and I'm a little disturbed. The PS2 that I purchased on launch failed after a month and a half. It stopped reading PSX/PS2 games; only DVDs and audio CDs would work on it. My games were working just fine because they would all play flawlessly on my friend's unit. I had to ship my unit to Sony's service center in California for repairs. About 2.5 weeks after I shipped it, I gave Sony a call to check the status of the repair. The tech told me that the unit was unrepairable and that they would supply with a new one. Now, it's been almost a month and I still haven't gotten one. I decided to give them a buzz a couple of nights ago and they told me that they are still waiting for a new shipment of consoles from Japan (to this day, ALL PS2 consoles are still exclusively manufactured in Japan, which is one of the BIG reasons why Sony can't produce enough units......I still have strong reason to believe that part shortages are NOT the problem here). I asked them if they had a timeframe and they said expect 1-2 weeks. That's GREAT.......I'll be going on over a month empty-handed. They did, however, give me the option of a factory-refurbished unit with full 90-day warranty to be shipped immediately, but SCREW THAT.... In my experience, refurbished products have been absolute nightmares. So I'll patiently wait for a new one. I purchased a new one and that's what I should be receiving.

The DVD video function of the PS2 is nice (it'll be even nicer when I get my PS2 back because my Toshiba set top was stolen in a robbery three days ago), but when I think about it, I kind of regret purchasing one. The games aren't exactly groundbreaking (yet) and I'm starting to question the reliability of these units. It is apparent that Sony hasn't emphasized quality control on the launch units especially. Believe me, I'm not the only one that feels that way.
 
Great post Erasmus-X.I feel exactly like you though I personally havent seen but 1 psx2 return yet.Over at the Best Buy I work at thats the number of psx2 returns we have had so far mine has been working since I got it on launch day.Also I really havent used it much around 10 hours of use in all this time due to no real ground breaking games out nor is tekken tag enough to fill me.Hopefully X-Box is something good seeing as it has good hype.
 
It's all Saddam's fault, remember...

I personally think that PS2 is better than what XBox is going to be. First of all you have all the 100s of games already out plus all the new ones. Second, Sony has a far better brand image (i.e. it has one) than Microsoft. When I think about Microsoft, I think about glasses-wearing nerds wearing stripy jumpers, Bill Gates' whining voice, questionable business practices and sub-standard products.

As Shockwave says, why buy a cut-down PC in the form of an XBox when you can spend a coupla hundred more and buy a proper computer for surfing, WPing and whatnot?
 
Who cares about this and that, if your like me you'll buy them all. 😉

I have a PS2, N64, DC, all the old crappy systems, a computer, a laptop (Soon to get), etc. etc. Buy them all.

Laterz,
Nore

PS: SONY is currently shipping out 100,000 units a week until March or something like that
 
Hey shockwave, yea your pc can do what an X-box can do but why don't you tell me how much it costed you? Under $300? I think not. A lot of people will spend more on a fvcking video card alone than the Xbox.
 
i dont like console as far as i am concerned. my computer does just fine.


WHO WANTS TO PLAY COUNTER-STRIKE???




any way, i think the x-box will be pretty cool,

there days, the consols need a hdtv or something to be able to see thier full potential. i would hat running a NV25 on a 400X300 tv or somthing. better off with a 1600X1200 monitor on a pc
 
It's all about the games IMHO.

I've owned every major console except Dreamcast and PS2.

And I think Nintendo had the best games, at least that i liked to play. I'm looking forward to the Gamecube. I'll be able to play any of the top X-box games on my PC, so I doubt if I'll get that.

 
Ditto here with the March relaunch.

Don't slam this thing. It is an impressive 3D graphics machine for the price. I can't wait to see the 2nd and 3rd generation games for it....especially if Sega starts making them!
 
I just saw on techtv that sony is taking a hard hit... i can't remember the exact details but there not making enough money off the ps2. How that can be I DON&quot;T KNOW!!! At 500 bucks a pop, WAIT FOR THE XBOX!!!!
 
Every manufacturer looses money on hardware at launch. Even MS will. They make it back in the games they sell.
 
Why would anyone want a PS2 anyhow? I'm waiting for the vastly superior Xbox and GameCube.

I've still yet to see a fun PS2 game that impressed me in any way. What a waste of cash.
 
The only way I'd buy an x-box is if someone comes out with a hack for it that allows you to use it as a standard pc. I have a feeling that will happen, and a lot of people will do that, so MS will not make the money back in games, and the actual x-box platform will die.
 
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