Hello people im a new guy at anandtech and i need help on making a computer.

[montag451]

mobo = motherboard.

Maybe it is worth buying an OLD pc for $50, and getting used to swapping out parts.
It works out a lot cheaper to do some practice this way

 

[jdogess]

ya, but where the hell would i find a comp for sale thats crap, online? or should i just start asking people that i know. maybe my school....... they have alot of crap comps they got new comps too. though still bad though there XP and me and all my friends during comp class we play Counter-strike 1.5 and 1.6 LAN
well ... k TY

 

[montag451]

you got it.

 

[CrispyFried]

Didnt get a chance to read the whole thing (I will later) but make sure you run dual monitors or LCDs, or maybe one of each.

You may want to add SCSI for the learning experience.

And yes your dad is Very Cool

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: CrispyFried
Didnt get a chance to read the whole thing (I will later) but make sure you run dual monitors or LCDs, or maybe one of each.

You may want to add SCSI for the learning experience.

And yes your dad is Very Cool

2 LCD screens is a complete waste of money, 99% games will only run on one of the screens, or duplicate it on both screens, even if you have a split desktop across both screens it will not run properly, trust me i have tried it. Most people only run 2 screens for more real estate, so that more application windows can be opened for quick access and efficiency. i talk from experience in a previous tech support job, of running two 17" tft's which i purely needed for my work... "so bad recommendation" just had to point that out before the OP goes off on another tangent

jdogess: this is the Coolermaster Wavemaster i was talking about .. i have it in black but the blue looks great of course personal pref, there are different colours blue, black, yellow and silver.

After looking through the money situation .. it is probably not a good idea to purchase the FX57, i would recommend to now purchase the AMD 3700+ San Diego, this is an exceptional chip and is an FX57 but running at a lower clock 2.2Ghz as apposed to 2.8Ghz (and has a top locked multi). The performance from the AMD 3700+ is awsome you will not be disappointed, i would recommend this because it is based on the new core revision (Rev-E), and includes a lot of new features SSE3, lower latency L2 cache etc etc... and when you become confident you can get help in the Overclocking forum and possibily OC your chip to the Fx57 speeds for 25% of the FX57 cost

You could wait for dual core but in your case (just gaming) it will not benefit you untill about a year or two down the line, and by that time you will be able to upgrade to the X2 and just swap out the processor and then you will be sorted. Also refer to my previous post for Cooling, you must keep quality in mind when it comes to cooling and future proof for OCing

Enjoy

Rich

 

[jdogess]

k i found out im getting the AMD ATHLON 64 4000+ Sledge hammer.
Though i want a case thats clear. i found one that good i believe its a thermaltake 1 window that all metal.

Though i dont want 2 lcd's for dual screening i already have 1 21" LCD so i dont really care for anymore for dual.

i think this is all my stufff im getting
tell me if you guys think its good? i like it and its good price.

http://www.xoxide.com/v5000d.html
THE CASE HERE IS COMING WITH A 500W Power Supply.
THOUGH this case is good too. i think....maybe the one uder it the same but aluminum

http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-armor-case-black.html

http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-armor-case-silver.html


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813127196

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103497

2 OF these...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820146547

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822140154

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16837102153

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127155

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827131244

http://www.xoxide.com/zalman-7000b-cu-led-cpu-cooler.html

http://www.xoxide.com/green-cold-cathode.html

http://www.xoxide.com/dual-white-cold-cathode-kit.html

http://www.xoxide.com/speakers2.html

http://www.xoxide.com/logisys-optical-fan-mouse-red.html

http://www.xoxide.com/blpsilke.html

http://www.xoxide.com/x-ray-thunder-8-mouse-pad-orange.html


My dad is going to get me these things sooN! unless you guys believe theres something i need to add....



O I got this case. i like it.. i hear lian-li is good.

http://www.xoxide.com/newlianli601.html

i dont care for the price. O AND when iw as surfing xoxide for cases i found this crazy $1,200 case that was 100% silent

 

[forumposter32]

I'm building a cheap one to upgrade later when UT2007 comes out.

BTW, does anyone know what I can do if my DVD burner didn't come with a sound cable? I only have on-board sound and don't intend to buy a sound card for a while.

Anyway, the new comp I'm building:

motherboard: Asus A7V600-X
CPU: Duron 1.8 GHz
video card: GeForce4 Ti4200 (brand new, sold out on tigerdirect but still some elsewhere)
heatsink: Cables Unlimited (on tigerdirect, real name is Spire, only 21 db)
memory: Kingston 512 MB PC3200 non-ECC
case: Enermax (with fan on the side, two fans total in case with blue lights)
power supply: Enermax noisetaker 420 watt
DVD burner: NEC ND3520
hard drive: Western Digital Caviar 60 GB 7200 RPM 8 MB buffer
floppy drive: Alps Electric
round IDE cable and floppy cable: Ultra UV reactive
keyboard: Gigabyte
speakers: Altec Lansing 2 speaker
mouse: AOpen
extra case fan (not required for my system): Enermax
hard drive fan (not required for WD Caviar): Masscool

I took out the cheap PowerUp power supply from my Enermax case. Well, that's it. The screws came with the case. I even had ribbon cables from my HD/DVD and floppy with my motherboard but bought round ones to help air circulation.

I looked at the videos on the AMD website how to place a CPU/heatsink on the motherboard. I put my hands on the metal part of my case to ground myself and took the motherboard out of the static bag, placed it over the static bag in the box on the floor and placed the CPU. Then I installed the heatsink (be careful to align it correctly so the side doesn't touch the white part of the socket that is raised). I installed the memory. I then put 3 spacers inside the case since there were only 6. I popped in the in and out sheild for the motherboard in the case. I put the case on its side on the floor and rested my forearms against the metal part of the case to ground myself while I put the motherboard inside. I put 9 screws on the motherboard. Then I removed the front panel and slide the floppy drive in place. I decided to keep the face plate of the front panel for the floppy drive but I popped out the face plate for the DVD burner. I put the front panel back in place and slid the DVD burner in place. Then I installed the hard drive cooler on the hard drive with two screws because it's all that it took while still being able to slide it in from the inside of the case.

Well, now I'm waiting. My power supply, round cables, keyboard and speakers haven't arrived yet.

 

[jdogess]

guys will i need to buy thermal paste for my CPU or will the CPU FAn do?

 

[forumposter32]

I've read various opinions about that. Someone posted a link on one site to the AMD web site stating that they recommend the thermal pad already on the heatsink when you buy it. Then another poster said that was old information and posted a link from the same site saying they now believe you should remove the thermal pad on high end CPUs and replace that with thermal grease. Arctic is a popular brand. Also, if you buy the retail version of the CPU, it may already come with a heatsink. But, those heatsinks can be less effective AND more noisy. Thermaltake is a popular brand name for heatsinks.

Of course, I read customer reviews on my heatsink and found out they use a different kind of thermal pad which is very good. Since it's a low end CPU, I decided to use that.
I also chose a model rated with a lower decibel rating. (Some are over 30 decibels, some are under 30.)

BTW, if you look at Abit motherboards, they have a support forum on their website. They also have a hardware compatibility for many of their boards. And, if your BIOS is not current and does not recognize a new CPU you just bought, you can order a BIOS chip for $6 US.

Popular names for motherboards: Abit, Asus, DFI, Gigabyte and MSI.
Popular names for power supplies: Enermax, Antec
I can also tell you a lot of people choose Corsair RAM. And Western Digital hard drives.

Also, if I remember well, you should remove the thermal pad (if you choose to do that) with a plastic scraper and finish off with Q-tips dipped in rubbing alcohol. Do not re-use a thermal pad once it's used. You have to clean it off.

 

[forumposter32]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tec...alResources/0,,30_182_869_9460,00.html

Look on the right for recommendations from AMD.

 

[jdogess]

ooo kk im getting the amd athlon 64 4000+

 

[forumposter32]

Sorry about that. Actually, here's a link to the AMD Atlhon 64 FX (more powerful than Athlon 64).

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tec...alResources/0,,30_182_869_9480,00.html

Well, you end up paying a lot more for the higher end anyway. If you get a socket 939 motherboard now, you can upgrade later to a dual core processor on it. They say dual core processors will provide a significant boost in UT2007. Dual core processors are expected to come out for the consumer market between Sept and Dec of this year.

 

[jdogess]

O well i dont wanna spend that much money though. im getting a 4000+ SledgeHammer though wat about the 4000+ Sandiego one. Which one is better i looked at both fo them adn there the same except to voltage.

o and wats the price on the AMD ATHLON 64 FX.


yes i am getting a 939 socketmother board and four 512 MB Ram sticks. "Crucical"

 

[forumposter32]

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/Default.aspx

Gee, I only see one 4000+. (click on the link for 4000+ to see)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...Price=&SubCategory=343&Submit=Property

There's a list of 80 AMD processors with prices and customer reviews.

 

[jdogess]

ehh oh well ill just get the san diego one. and later like during christmas i guess i'll get like the fx-55 or one of those really good ones.

and when i get all my comp parts ima need a whole lotta help from u guys.... its gonna take a while.