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Brutuskend

Lifer
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I did quit for 7 months about 10 years ago. Found out I needed an operation and the stress got me going again. :(
 

Nocturnal

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It's a moot point in advertising that smoking causes cancer, or that doing drugs will make you retarded. Kids and adults alike are going to do them no matter what anyone says. It makes them feel good. It's neverending war I tell ya!
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
It's a moot point in advertising that smoking causes cancer, or that doing drugs will make you retarded. Kids and adults alike are going to do them no matter what anyone says. It makes them feel good. It's neverending war I tell ya!

The problem is that everyone is so used to seeing the warnings that they have lost all meaning. It's nearly impossible to scare anyone anymore.
 

deerslayer

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I wish I had never tried smoking. Depending on who i'm around I smoke betweek 5 cigarettes to a pack a day. I only smoke a pack a day on the weekends when i'm drinking. I can definitely vouch for the fact that it is very hard to quit. I'm going to have to quit now though, because I wont be able to afford it when i'm going to school!
 

Stratum9

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I agree with the conspiracy aspect of tobacco manufactures and the government. I mean, if the government made tobacco products illegal today just imagine how the stock market would crash. Too many pockets are being lined with tobacco money for anything effective to ever be done about it.

Unless some other commodity could be invented for the use of tobacco besides smoking or chewing it. Like if it could be used to pave roads then they could make it illegal and the tobacco growers/manufactures wouldn't lose money.

Anyway, I stopped smoking cigs back when they went up to a $1.25. Now I smoke a pipe and spend no more than thirty dollars a month for tobacco and accesories. Except when I buy a new pipe for my collection, then I'll spend a bit more.

It doesn't stink (with a few exceptions, most people enjoy the smell of my pipe) and it's less filty than cigarettes.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: Stratum9
I agree with the conspiracy aspect of tobacco manufactures and the government. I mean, if the government made tobacco products illegal today just imagine how the stock market would crash. Too many pockets are being lined with tobacco money for anything effective to ever be done about it.

Unless some other commodity could be invented for the use of tobacco besides smoking or chewing it. Like if it could be used to pave roads then they could make it illegal and the tobacco growers/manufactures wouldn't lose money.

Anyway, I stopped smoking cigs back when they went up to a $1.25. Now I smoke a pipe and spend no more than thirty dollars a month for tobacco and accesories. Except when I buy a new pipe for my collection, then I'll spend a bit more.

It doesn't stink (with a few exceptions, most people enjoy the smell of my pipe) and it's less filty than cigarettes.

Conspiracy? What are you smoking in that pipe of yours? Everything get's more expensive over time, why would tobacco products be any different? I remember when gas was $.50 a galon, it's $1.50 now. The house my parents bought for 60k now appraised at over 180k. I remember when a new car could be had for around 4k.. Are all those consipracies?
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: LyNx01
I wish I had never tried smoking. Depending on who i'm around I smoke betweek 5 cigarettes to a pack a day. I only smoke a pack a day on the weekends when i'm drinking. I can definitely vouch for the fact that it is very hard to quit. I'm going to have to quit now though, because I wont be able to afford it when i'm going to school!

<zoolander> You can read minds??? :Q</zoolander>
 

JohnPaul

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While I agree that nicotene is right up there, being a smoker, and a heroin addict(not currently), I can safely tell you that nicotene has in my experience been a tiny bit easier to quit then heroin. They are definitely the top two most addictive drugs that i've ever tried, and I too have tried most. Heroin will make you get on your hands and knees and cry, while nicotene will make you a jerk to be around. The withdrawals are just not comparable. Heroin makes you puke, crap your pants, and in severe cases die. I've never heard of nicotene withdrawal doing that. I'm not at all dismissing the hell of nicotene withdrawal, i'm just making it clear that it's nothing compared to withdrawal from heroin. Different leagues in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I am still smoking, and am also on methadone, but i'm just saying that yes, while nicotene is pretty close to the same as far as it's addiction, it's withdrawal is much less severe, which in my mind makes it a bit easier to quit. Yes I have quit both in the past.

Also, while the government may say they don't want to create any more smokers, as you said, they couldn't live without the taxes they levy on us smokers, which is totally wrong to take advantage of our habit.
 

Stratum9

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Stratum9
I agree with the conspiracy aspect of tobacco manufactures and the government. I mean, if the government made tobacco products illegal today just imagine how the stock market would crash. Too many pockets are being lined with tobacco money for anything effective to ever be done about it.

Unless some other commodity could be invented for the use of tobacco besides smoking or chewing it. Like if it could be used to pave roads then they could make it illegal and the tobacco growers/manufactures wouldn't lose money.

Anyway, I stopped smoking cigs back when they went up to a $1.25. Now I smoke a pipe and spend no more than thirty dollars a month for tobacco and accesories. Except when I buy a new pipe for my collection, then I'll spend a bit more.

It doesn't stink (with a few exceptions, most people enjoy the smell of my pipe) and it's less filty than cigarettes.

Conspiracy? What are you smoking in that pipe of yours? Everything get's more expensive over time, why would tobacco products be any different? I remember when gas was $.50 a galon, it's $1.50 now. The house my parents bought for 60k now appraised at over 180k. I remember when a new car could be had for around 4k.. Are all those consipracies?

My post had nothing to do with products getting more expensive over time. My only referrence to price was what the cost of a pack of cigs were the last time I bought one. By conspiracy I was referring to this line in Brutuskend's original post: "My thoughts on the subject of THIS addiction is that no matter what the government say?s, it wants us to keep smoking so it can keep getting our $$$."

In other words, no matter how much lip service the government or major tobacco companies pay towards anti-smoking campaings, none of them are really interested in seeing Americans stop smoking. It's just too profitable for them to care about the negative health issues of their customers.
 

JohnPaul

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Wow, are you dense!! Cigarettes have gone up about 700% in the last ten years, and they keep raising the taxes every single year. They take advantage of the fact that we need to smoke and can't quit too easily. Tell me this, if in five years, your favorite habit, whatever it may be was raised by a factor of 700%, you'd be okay with that? I don't know of any other item that is taxed so highly and so freely, and it seems non-smokers are so blind to the fact that voting for cig tax increases only makes things worse for them too in the long run, because eventually it will be them being taken advantage of. What are you 12? Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Stratum9
I agree with the conspiracy aspect of tobacco manufactures and the government. I mean, if the government made tobacco products illegal today just imagine how the stock market would crash. Too many pockets are being lined with tobacco money for anything effective to ever be done about it.

Unless some other commodity could be invented for the use of tobacco besides smoking or chewing it. Like if it could be used to pave roads then they could make it illegal and the tobacco growers/manufactures wouldn't lose money.

Anyway, I stopped smoking cigs back when they went up to a $1.25. Now I smoke a pipe and spend no more than thirty dollars a month for tobacco and accesories. Except when I buy a new pipe for my collection, then I'll spend a bit more.

It doesn't stink (with a few exceptions, most people enjoy the smell of my pipe) and it's less filty than cigarettes.

Conspiracy? What are you smoking in that pipe of yours? Everything get's more expensive over time, why would tobacco products be any different? I remember when gas was $.50 a galon, it's $1.50 now. The house my parents bought for 60k now appraised at over 180k. I remember when a new car could be had for around 4k.. Are all those consipracies?

 

TheCorm

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Originally posted by: MrYogi
You are 49? I thought you were some teenager. :D

Yup...look...i'ts the big 5..0 in december...all round to Brutuskend's house!!

I have never taken even one drag....won't do either...it really does baffle me why anyone would want to do it....I don't give a rats a$$ about the fact that it relaxes people...god, just cope with stress like non-smokers....

I am impressed by companies actually managing to make upwards of $5/£5 off people while giving them something that slowly kills them...well done to the cigarette companies...makes you wonder how advanced the human race is....mind you I drink....but not excessively...I would say I spend £10 - £15 a week and have a good night out...and I don't force other people to drink my drink unlike secondary smoke.

Jamie
 

AnyMal

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Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: JohnPaul
Wow, are you dense!! Cigarettes have gone up about 700% in the last ten years, and they keep raising the taxes every single year. They take advantage of the fact that we need to smoke and can't quit too easily. Tell me this, if in five years, your favorite habit, whatever it may be was raised by a factor of 700%, you'd be okay with that? I don't know of any other item that is taxed so highly and so freely, and it seems non-smokers are so blind to the fact that voting for cig tax increases only makes things worse for them too in the long run, because eventually it will be them being taken advantage of. What are you 12? Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Stratum9
I agree with the conspiracy aspect of tobacco manufactures and the government. I mean, if the government made tobacco products illegal today just imagine how the stock market would crash. Too many pockets are being lined with tobacco money for anything effective to ever be done about it.

Unless some other commodity could be invented for the use of tobacco besides smoking or chewing it. Like if it could be used to pave roads then they could make it illegal and the tobacco growers/manufactures wouldn't lose money.

Anyway, I stopped smoking cigs back when they went up to a $1.25. Now I smoke a pipe and spend no more than thirty dollars a month for tobacco and accesories. Except when I buy a new pipe for my collection, then I'll spend a bit more.

It doesn't stink (with a few exceptions, most people enjoy the smell of my pipe) and it's less filty than cigarettes.

Conspiracy? What are you smoking in that pipe of yours? Everything get's more expensive over time, why would tobacco products be any different? I remember when gas was $.50 a galon, it's $1.50 now. The house my parents bought for 60k now appraised at over 180k. I remember when a new car could be had for around 4k.. Are all those consipracies?

I think it is you who's got some growing up to do. Every smoker (myself included) has gotten into habit by choice, not force. We choose to smoke and buy cigarettes. So please don't preach what you don't know. I am yet to hear of the product that has no demand, but the price is steadily rising. Besides, it's individual states that tax tobacco, not federal government.
 

CChaos

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Mar 4, 2003
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This thread reminds me of Jerry Garcia. In the end, he was finally able to kick heroin but he never could quite smoking.