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Hellboy II

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I think it will do well. It should bring both the summer-movie crowd and the del Toro crowd. I thought Hellboy was ok, but I heard del Toro was constrained by the studio. Pan's Labyrinth was stellar, so now we know what he can do, and I expect he got plenty of leeway this time around to do his thing.
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I think it will do well. It should bring both the summer-movie crowd and the del Toro crowd. I thought Hellboy was ok, but I heard del Toro was constrained by the studio. Pan's Labyrinth was stellar, so now we know what he can do, and I expect he got plenty of leeway this time around to do his thing.
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If there were a Tomato type meter from Ain't It Cool News, it would be at 100%.
 
just saw it.
My gf didn't like it as much as the first, I liked it more...I felt it conveyed the tone of the comics much better than the first. There was a lot of awkward dialogue and some bad acting Ylookin at you princess), and Doug Jones should've stuck to just playing Abe and left the dialogue to David Hyde Pierce...

I was torn with Johann, at first I thought he sucked, but his fight with Red was classic. The Golden Armyitself was badass.
 
you folks actually LIKED the first one? wow...I thought it was poorly acted, hokey as hell, and just not that well made. I might end up watching HB2...when it comes out on A&E, TNT, or one of the free channels. Not until.
 
I loved HB #1. Watched it at least a dozen time on Starz! 😀

Boomer, you still want to subscribe to my newsletter? 😉
 
the critics over at rottentomatoes are completely bought out. just got back from the movie anticipating a better movie than the first one, and what i got was something far far worse than the first.

i give it a D. horrible waste of $10.
 
First movie was good but it had hte same problem that Blade had. The ending kinda sucked.

Hacing said that, so long as the reviews are good, I'll be seeing Hellboy 2.
 
Originally posted by: Engineer
I loved HB #1. Watched it at least a dozen time on Starz! 😀

Boomer, you still want to subscribe to my newsletter? 😉
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Sure, but I can just skip your movie reviews...😉
 
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
 
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
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I think I read the same thing about Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth. Well minus comedy, just that it jumped back and forth from two different stories. But in Pan's I thought it was supposed to be disjointed.
 
Originally posted by: hofan41
the critics over at rottentomatoes are completely bought out. just got back from the movie anticipating a better movie than the first one, and what i got was something far far worse than the first.

i give it a D. horrible waste of $10.
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I haven't seen it, but there's no way that many critics are "bought out." Roger Ebert, who I tend to trust more than other critics, gave it 3.5 stars.
 
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
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Yeah, the voice acting was done by Doug Jones, he's the guy in the Abe suit (both movies). He's tight with Del Toro, played Pan and the Pale Man, and I think he was in the Angel of Death getup as well. Unfortunately, while he's a pretty good mime, he's not a very good actor. His voice acting was pretty damn bad.
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
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I think I read the same thing about Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth. Well minus comedy, just that it jumped back and forth from two different stories. But in Pan's I thought it was supposed to be disjointed.
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I thought (most of) the comedy was great...made it more like the comics. HB is always making some stupid quip then disaster falls in his lap and he's in the midst of a fight or something. The drunk scene was the best scene in the whole movie for that reason...minus the Golden Army confrontation, which was just badass.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
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I think I read the same thing about Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth. Well minus comedy, just that it jumped back and forth from two different stories. But in Pan's I thought it was supposed to be disjointed.
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I liked Pan's Lab and yeah it was supposed to jump between reality and her imagination, but that was on purpose. I wasn't really expecting that kind of separation in HB2 though and thus when I watched it, it made me not like it as much because of the disjointedness.
 
Saw it last night. I was bored out of my mind, and couldn't wait to leave. This was honestly one of the worst movies I've seen in a long time.

To me, there were so many things that were wrong that it's really hard to articulate. The story didn't flow, the acting was horrible (for Blair, Jones and the Strauss character) and the adversarial moments were anticlimactic.

I'm not a critic, because obviously quite a few have enjoyed this movie. I sure didn't though.
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
Saw it last night. I was bored out of my mind, and couldn't wait to leave. This was honestly one of the worst movies I've seen in a long time.

To me, there were so many things that were wrong that it's really hard to articulate. The story didn't flow, the acting was horrible (for Blair, Jones and the Strauss character) and the adversarial moments were anticlimactic.

I'm not a critic, because obviously quite a few have enjoyed this movie. I sure didn't though.
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Yeah I agree that Blair's character/acting was pretty bad. Plus the orange flame wasn't as cool as the blue flame she had in HB1. Strauss was just stupid comic relief but him controlling that golden army robot thing was pretty sweet.

One part I thought was dumb was when Abe saw the princess in disguise and started following her, I assumed she was pretty far and hidden from her brother.

However, once the HB's group left the troll market with the princess, the brother suddenly appears behind them. It was as if the whole time the princess was in hiding, her brother was like "one floor down". I dunno, I thought that was kind of random/stupid.
 
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Fight scenes were pretty cool/badass, but the story was just so disconnected.

It jumps from out of place comedy to plot development back to more comedy way too quickly.

There were some cool ideas/environments/characters, but overall the disconnected story made this feel very different from the first.

Plus the voice actor for Abe Sapien was not niles crane (don't know his real name) and I thought that was kind of weird.
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I think I read the same thing about Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth. Well minus comedy, just that it jumped back and forth from two different stories. But in Pan's I thought it was supposed to be disjointed.
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I liked Pan's Lab and yeah it was supposed to jump between reality and her imagination, but that was on purpose. I wasn't really expecting that kind of separation in HB2 though and thus when I watched it, it made me not like it as much because of the disjointedness.
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I just got back from seeing it, and I have to say I agree with your original post.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
I liked it better then the first one. I thought the evil elf dude was totally bad ass.
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He reminded me of Tom Cruise in a combination of that crazy Scientology video and Interview with the Vampire.
 
I saw it last night and thought it was just OK. I was distracted by Abe not having David Hyde Pierce's voice, and the whole thing just seemed manic and muddled to me. It did have it strengths, and it equaled out to be average - IMO the first one was considerably better.
 
There are just a few giant plot holes that I just can't get over
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If they were able to melt the crown, why didn't they just melt the one piece they had!?!?!?!?!!? What was the elf dude going to do with only 2 pieces?
Why would you choose to save Hellboy at the cost of the world, which would mean that you would die anyway?
Why did the bad guy have no reasonable plan to recover the third piece other than to just sit around waiting for the idiotic good guys to bring it to him?

I could go on, but I think you get my point.
 
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