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hell yea

imported_Reck

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There is nothing like a fresh install of xp. Firefox loads so damn fast now. When i click on a web page it loads instantly. Still a few thing to figure out about setting it up though. Like does anyone know how to change it to classic view? Also what's up with the annoying startup sounds? How do I turn those off?

Hm sp2 hasn't given me any problems that I can detect yet.
 
Hell yeah - I did a fresh install last night, along with a new case and another hard drive 🙂 So fresh and so clean 🙂 I'm still currently getting all of my usual crap installed 🙂
 
yay for fresh xp installs. i'm too damn lazy to bother but my system runs great anyway. *knocks on wood* :shocked: wood!?
 
Originally posted by: Reck
There is nothing like a fresh install of xp. Firefox loads so damn fast now. When i click on a web page it loads instantly. Still a few thing to figure out about setting it up though. Like does anyone know how to change it to classic view? Also what's up with the annoying startup sounds? How do I turn those off?

Hm sp2 hasn't given me any problems that I can detect yet.

right click on the start button, properties, classic mode
 
heh, keep it maintained and you will not notice barely any speed loss at all.

mine still feels crisp like the day it was reformatted.
 
Originally posted by: CraigRT
heh, keep it maintained and you will not notice barely any speed loss at all.

mine still feels crisp like the day it was reformatted.

same here pretty much. :thumbsup:

very little difference in speed from when i installed. it's all in your maintenance routines & schedules imho.
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Hmm, I still haven't needed to format since W2K...

maintainence > fresh loads.

Not true. All the maintanence in the world doesn't help after a while. No matter how fast you think it is, it could be faster. So the word "need", no. He didn't need to do a fresh install, but after doing such, you can definetely notice a difference, especially after a year or so.

Also depends on how much you install, uninstall, etc. I like to do a fresh install at least once a year if not more, and I always do all the maintenance in between.
 
It also depends on how much crap you install and uninstall. Like, if you first install a program, and then uninstall it, it borks up the machine, because it adds stuff to the registry, for example, and sometimes doesn't get properly cleaned up.
 
Originally posted by: logic1485
It also depends on how much crap you install and uninstall. Like, if you first install a program, and then uninstall it, it borks up the machine, because it adds stuff to the registry, for example, and sometimes doesn't get properly cleaned up.

yup, that's why I use Ghost! Customized perfect-edition Windows installation that you can use at any time. I usually restore the Ghost image after working on a big project.
 
How big can a ghost image come to be? And does that include apps, and stuff?

Is it just like freezing windows (and everything else) in a perfect state, and then whenever it goes bad, you just load it back on?
 
Originally posted by: logic1485
How big can a ghost image come to be? And does that include apps, and stuff?

Is it just like freezing windows (and everything else) in a perfect state, and then whenever it goes bad, you just load it back on?

A basic ghost image usually runs maybe 3 gigs or so, with Windows, updates, drivers, and basic programs like Office. XP takes up like a gig and a half or so. It does include the apps and stuff.

Exactly, it's just like freezing Windows and everything else in a perfect state. Whenever you install goes bad, from a virus, screwed up hard drive, spyware, bad uninstallation, whatever, just pop the restore discs back in and 20 minutes later you're good to go. It works if the hard drive is different as well, so if the hard drive bites it and you need to replace it you can do that, or if you upgrade.

On a 1ghz machine with 256mb ram, 60gb hdd, Windows XP Home, updates, drivers, and Office 2003, it takes 15 minutes to do a full restore.
 
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Hmm, I still haven't needed to format since W2K...

maintainence > fresh loads.

Not true. All the maintanence in the world doesn't help after a while. No matter how fast you think it is, it could be faster. So the word "need", no. He didn't need to do a fresh install, but after doing such, you can definetely notice a difference, especially after a year or so.

Also depends on how much you install, uninstall, etc. I like to do a fresh install at least once a year if not more, and I always do all the maintenance in between.

Could have fooled me. I have installed XP on another HDD and the fresh load wasn't any faster. I have no performance issues with my current load.

I have been running that load for over 3 years now.

Most people reinstall because something they installed/uninstalled borked the system and don't know how to fix it, or they got malware and can't remove it. They commonly reinstal to fix a problem they don't know how to TS and fix themselves.

Ghost images are nice an all, but they also encourage sloppy computing habbits since a reload is so easy. That also means people lose tweaks/setting left and right (ones added since the image was created) unless they keep a change log.

knowledge > ignorance.

BTW, for those of you making ghost images, you can delete pagefile.sys (delete outside the OS) before you image to save a lot of space in the image.
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Hmm, I still haven't needed to format since W2K...

maintainence > fresh loads.

Not true. All the maintanence in the world doesn't help after a while. No matter how fast you think it is, it could be faster. So the word "need", no. He didn't need to do a fresh install, but after doing such, you can definetely notice a difference, especially after a year or so.

Also depends on how much you install, uninstall, etc. I like to do a fresh install at least once a year if not more, and I always do all the maintenance in between.

Could have fooled me. I have installed XP on another HDD and the fresh load wasn't any faster. I have no performance issues with my current load.

I have been running that load for over 3 years now.

Most people reinstall because something they installed/uninstalled borked the system and don't know how to fix it, or they got malware and can't remove it. They commonly reinstal to fix a problem they don't know how to TS and fix themselves.

Ghost images are nice an all, but they also encourage sloppy computing habbits since a reload is so easy. That also means people lose tweaks/setting left and right (ones added since the image was created) unless they keep a change log.

knowledge > ignorance.

BTW, for those of you making ghost images, you can delete pagefile.sys (delete outside the OS) before you image to save a lot of space in the image.

ooh, good tip, I'll have to add that to the tutorial, thanks! 🙂
 
Originally posted by: logic1485
is that tutorial your own?

/me hopes it is so he can deeply critisize [sp] it when he uses it

yes, it is. fire away. I wrote it as a project for my web design class, so it's definately not perfect. I don't even have detailed instructions about how to restore the discs. Oh, and you're only allowed to criticize if you use the same version as the one in the tutorial 😉
 
Fresh installs suck. I only do a fresh install if I'm swapping motherboards, and the chipsets are not similar enough to get away with it ... (IE, I did NOT do a fresh install when upgrading from my kt133 to my kt333 and then later to my nforce2 ultra board) ....
 
Not to be a thread crapper, but wouldn't you believe that a REAL operating system shouldn't need a fresh install on a periodic basis to keep it going fast?
 
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