Heil Roger Goodell, den Fuehrer!

Deeko

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At first I liked what Gooddell was doing, laying the hammer down on the players, keeping them in line. Then today I log onto espn, and there's so many fines for penalties, its ridiculous. 7500 to vince young for throwing the ball at someone? 5000 for a face mask? 7500 for using the ball as a prop in a TD celebration? Now I know players have gotten fined for late/dirty hits, but this is getting a bit out of hand (unless of course these happened before, they just never reached the media).

On top of that, Wade Wilson of the Cowboys is fined $100k and suspended 5 games (more than a player would get), for buying HGH for his diabetes.

I think he needs to calm down a little bit....
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Well, Tag's let the league go so far down the shitter that what you're seeing now is only natural. I mean, when the players have gotten so out of control it's going to take some fairly extreme action to right the ship. Personally, I'm glad Gooddell is laying the hammer down but to each his own.
 

Argo

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I don't have a problem with this. I mean you don't see baseball players doing stupid dances every time they hit a home run.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: Argo
I don't have a problem with this. I mean you don't see baseball players doing stupid dances every time they hit a home run.

In the good ol' days they'd just get drilled in the back the next time they come up to the plate. But now it's the pitcher who gets thrown out, suspended, and fined. :roll:
 

Slick5150

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Yeah, because if you threw your office phone at a coworker your boss would give you a high-five I'm sure!
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Yeah, because if you threw your office phone at a coworker your boss would give you a high-five I'm sure!

That's the dumbest comparison ever.
 

Rastus

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Argo
I don't have a problem with this. I mean you don't see baseball players doing stupid dances every time they hit a home run.

In the good ol' days they'd just get drilled in the back the next time they come up to the plate. But now it's the pitcher who gets thrown out, suspended, and fined. :roll:
Chin music.

 

Slew Foot

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Yeah, because if you threw your office phone at a coworker your boss would give you a high-five I'm sure!

But would he if you threw a phone at your competitor and knocked him out a contract?
 

jagec

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Given their salaries, those penalties are like charging the rest of us $0.14 for speeding and $0.63 for lewd behavior.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: jagec
Given their salaries, those penalties are like charging the rest of us $0.14 for speeding and $0.63 for lewd behavior.

Seriously. I don't necessarily support Goodell's enthusiasm for the fine but who cares? Oh no, the millionaire pro athlete had to give up a few grand.

:confused:
 

Deeko

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Those fines aren't big to the players, but the 100k to wade wilson was over 1/3 of his salary.

It just seems players are getting fined for EVERYTHING now. And as for Argo's comments, I think its absurd how strict they've gotten with TD celebrations. Do they make themselves look like idiots? Sure, but some of the stuff is amusing, and this is a SPORT, let them play. How is a group celebration hurting the game?
 

Cuda1447

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Some of my fondest memories are of shit talking and celebration dances. Deion with his high stepping to the endzone. TO standing on the dallas star and then getting drilled. Chad Johnson proposing to a cheerleader. That shit makes the game FUN. You yell and scream for your team to score. When they do you shit talk to the person next to you. Then you laugh your ass off when your star lineman that just scored a TD does a fat man dance in the endzone. Its all a game, its their for entertainment. Let the players entertain a little bit with their pesonalities.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Some of my fondest memories are of shit talking and celebration dances. Deion with his high stepping to the endzone. TO standing on the dallas star and then getting drilled. Chad Johnson proposing to a cheerleader. That shit makes the game FUN. You yell and scream for your team to score. When they do you shit talk to the person next to you. Then you laugh your ass off when your star lineman that just scored a TD does a fat man dance in the endzone. Its all a game, its their for entertainment. Let the players entertain a little bit with their pesonalities.

So Barry Sanders wasn't fun to watch because he just handed the pigskin to the ref? Jerry Rice was such a bore. That Peyton Manning? Jeeze

I thought we were watching the game and getting excited by spectacular plays. Not some douche bag you has to show up the other team and draw attention to himself.

I really don't care either way. But, I don't think it makes the game any more exciting to watch.
 

SVT Cobra

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ROFL these penalties always existed and lots of players are fined each week. Just another case of someone assuming, Well I haven't seen it on CNN so it must be new.

 

Agentbolt

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ROFL these penalties always existed

The penalty for using the football as a prop in a touchdown dance is at MOST 2 years old, genius. Before that you could do whatever you wanted with it. When TO got fined for taking out a Sharpie, signing the ball, and throwing it to his financial advisor, he got fined for using the Sharpie, not even what he did with the ball.

Congrats on flexing those football knowledge muscles though!
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
ROFL these penalties always existed and lots of players are fined each week. Just another case of someone assuming, Well I haven't seen it on CNN so it must be new.

Why don't you ROFL your way back to the top of the thread, where I specificly said "unless this happened before and it just wasn't reported", and "fines existed for dirty hits already, but not necessarily this stuff"? Also, the specific penalties for TD celebrations are indeed pretty new, and the suspensions Gooddell doled out this year are also indeed new.

ROFL your way to smarter posting, or right out of the thread, thanks.
 

Syringer

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I don't necessarily disagree with Goddell's fines, but the stuff that people get away with in baseball is just unbelievable.

Like this Vlad incident, http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQEJuKKwKYs, where a guy is throwing to the head of someone, using a weapon that can, and has killed before, he should be suspended for at least a month, if not for a whole season. If that kind of intent was made in any sort of real life situation, he'd be in jail for assault/battery--but under Selig's reign it's a f'in 4-game suspension--for a PITCHER, which essentially is what he'd be resting for anyway. Ridiculous..