Heheh...I thought Firefox fanbois use it because it's more secure than IE

[mugs]

Why Kazaa is on the list boggles my mind. I can't believe people actually use that on their work PCs.

 

[DrPizza]

The list from Bit9 calls out applications frequently downloaded by individuals (and thus perhaps not sanctioned by the enterprise) which have at least one critical vulnerability, and that rely on the end user, not the corporate IT department, to manually patch or upgrade to fix bugs.

Reading comprehension:

This is a list of programs that people download at work and use at work, but are not supported by the IT department at work. In other words, the IT department patches (or is supposed to patch) programs such as IE once patches become available... Where I work, I'm responsible for patching Firefox on my computer (or rather, I constantly download the latest patches for everything when they come out; I've frequently found that the server on which I'm supposed to update my virus protection is several months out of date, so I manually update the virus protection online... IT department is frequently wayyyyyy behind.)

 

[mugs]

OK, clearly most of the people in this thread did not read the article, just the list...

The list from Bit9 calls out applications frequently downloaded by individuals (and thus perhaps not sanctioned by the enterprise)

IE and Windows do NOT fit those criteria. Both are generally maintained and patched by the IT staff.

 

[bunker]

I am the IT department in my office. I have no problems pushing out firefox patches when they come.

 

[aceO07]

I wonder if there's bias... I'm surprised IE didn't make the list. If they can use an old version of FF, then they should also use an old version of IE. (Fine, loophole).

Microsoft hates Firefox.
Microsoft hates iTunes (Apple).
Microsoft hates Java.
Microsoft wants to replace PDF.

I don't use most of the programs, but I never really had any problems with any of the programs that I have used.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Mugs explained why IE isn't on the list.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: aceO07

Microsoft wants to replace PDF.

Really? With what? I hadn't heard that? I think I'd actually welcome that change, as recent versions of Acrobat are absurdly bloaded. FoxIt reader FTW!

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: mugs

Why Kazaa is on the list boggles my mind. I can't believe people actually use that on their work PCs.

Why does it boggle the mind? Most people have faster internet connections at work, so they use it at work to download what takes too long at home...

I agree it's stupid, but hardly surprising IMO.

*shrug*

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: mugs

Why Kazaa is on the list boggles my mind. I can't believe people actually use that on their work PCs.

Why does it boggle the mind? Most people have faster internet connections at work, so they use it at work to download what takes too long at home...

I agree it's stupid, but hardly surprising IMO.

*shrug*

Wouldn't most IT staffs monitor that kind of traffic and stop it?

 

[drinkmorejava]

lol, testing old versions of FF FTW. Oh, and it has tabbed browsing and a whole mess of good plugins.

 

[HermDogg]

Why are almost all of the programs on that list old versions? iTunes, FF, etc.

 

[state 08]

Opera 9 came out recently. It rocks.

 

[HermDogg]

Btw,according to the CVE, website:

Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE®) is:

A list of standardized names for vulnerabilities and other information security exposures ? CVE aims to standardize the names for all publicly known vulnerabilities and security exposures.

A Dictionary, NOT a Database

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: mugs

Why Kazaa is on the list boggles my mind. I can't believe people actually use that on their work PCs.

Why does it boggle the mind? Most people have faster internet connections at work, so they use it at work to download what takes too long at home...

I agree it's stupid, but hardly surprising IMO.

*shrug*

It boggles my mind that people don't realize that they could easily get fired for that.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: HermDogg
Why are almost all of the programs on that list old versions? iTunes, FF, etc.

Probably because most end users don't frequently upgrade unless
a. the program nags them to
or
b. they have a problem with the program

So there are probably a lot of old versions out there.

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: aceO07

Microsoft wants to replace PDF.

Really? With what? I hadn't heard that? I think I'd actually welcome that change, as recent versions of Acrobat are absurdly bloaded. FoxIt reader FTW!

You can actually move most of the acrobat plugins into an 'optional' folder and those plugins won't be loaded at startup of the program. I use v7 and it loads pretty quickly.

On my slow laptop with v5, it definitely helps in speed if I move the junk plugins.

They want to do their own format.
http://www.pdfzone.com/article2/0,1895,1836066,00.asp

PDFzone: Please give us an overview of Metro.
Ford: Metro is really three different things in one.

First off, it's a new document file format, similar in many ways to PDF.

It's also a spool format. When you print on a Windows or a Mac computer, the print system has a format that it uses to communicate the data through the print subsystem and spool it to the device.

And it's also a page description language, similar to PCL PostScript, that can be used to transmit that information all the way down to a printer, where it turns into the data that comes out on a piece of paper.

In addition to this format, there is also a new printing subsystem. Microsoft announced they're fixing a number of the printing bottlenecks and issues in the current Windows subsystem by implementing a new architecture for printing that includes Metro as a key foundation of that architecture.

Knowing MS, they will lock it down and make sure you can't use it on anything except the Windows and probably only the lastest version of it.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

http://secunia.com/product/11/


Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Moderately critical

This is based on the most severe Secunia advisory, which is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database. Go to Unpatched/Patched list below for details.

Currently, 19 out of 103 Secunia advisories, are marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: archcommus
I don't see what FF still has over IE besides extension support.

Even if the only thing it had over IE was extension support, that alone doubles the usefulness of the browser for me.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: aceO07
Knowing MS, they will lock it down and make sure you can't use it on anything except the Windows and probably only the lastest version of it.

Doing that would entirely defeat the purpose of having a competitor to PDF.

 

[Kadarin]

One real problem with this article is that it only addresses number of vulnerabilities. It does not address how often they get patched, and how severe they are. For example, how many Firefox vulnerabilities can result in an attacker gaining root access to your system, vs. IE?

 

[RCN]

Opera FTW

 

[SSP]

On another note, FF mouse gestures are the worst I?ve used. Maxthon so far has been the most forgiving in terms of catching common gestures correctly. Too bad it?s only a windows app.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: codeyf

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
Funny, cuz I haven't had any problems since I switched to FF over IE.

Funny 'cuz I've never had a problem using IE or FF.

Werd.

I only use FF to surf pr0n so the wife doesn't stumble on some old url that was entered by auto-complete

You can turn that off you know...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: archcommus
I don't see what FF still has over IE besides extension support.

Better web compatibility in general, but both browsers are flawed and don't meet W3C standards yet.

Honestly I feel that operation is a lot smoother. IE has tendencies to stall and lock up (evne if they come back from being unresponsive) after loading a bloated site. I don't like that. FF seems like it kinda keeps going and chugging along, although its memory usage is a tad heavy

 

[simms]

Originally posted by: SSP
On another note, FF mouse gestures are the worst I?ve used. Maxthon so far has been the most forgiving in terms of catching common gestures correctly. Too bad it?s only a windows app.

I used to be a Maxthon user and loved it dearly... switched over to FF a while back, it took me 2-3 tries to fully convert because I couldn't get used to FF.