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Heck, even the UN knows that Iraq is lying about their weapons...
- Thread starter SaltBoy
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There is a different between a lack of explanation and the actual evidence.
The UN is concerned about the lack of explanation. Iraq will be acked to respond to the detailed concerns.
The UN is concerned about the lack of explanation. Iraq will be acked to respond to the detailed concerns.
MaxDepth
Diamond Member
I thought the inspection teams had carte blanche to go anywhere and everywhere in the seatrch of Iraq's weapons programs.
They don't? You'd think that we would have satellites observing unusually heavy traffic movements and then nudge the teams into that general direction.
I honestly thought they'd go in there to find a "smoking gun."
They don't? You'd think that we would have satellites observing unusually heavy traffic movements and then nudge the teams into that general direction.
I honestly thought they'd go in there to find a "smoking gun."
The report is preliminary. The final is due Jan 27. At that point the question will be can the US get a second resolution to go after Iraq with the UN or have to go it alone.
In the mean time a dirty bomb or germ attack will take place here, everybody will assume the iraqis did it, there will be marshal law and the take over over and suspension of the constitution and subsequent one world order world domination binge will be successfully on it's way.
In the mean time a dirty bomb or germ attack will take place here, everybody will assume the iraqis did it, there will be marshal law and the take over over and suspension of the constitution and subsequent one world order world domination binge will be successfully on it's way.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
So what about every other country in the universe that has WMD? When do we go after them? Yipee!!
We need elbow room.
We need elbow room.
HappyPuppy
Lifer
I don't believe I have ever attacked you, Moonbeam. With the aforementioned statement, though, I am compelled to state that you are full of shyt.
Bignate603
Lifer
The UN has agreed to it if Iraq does not comply. This to me sounds like they are not complying. Sounds like the Army should stock up on sunscreen.
So is this going to make it any better that we bomb Iraq?
Is attacking Iraq going to stop others from acquiring nukes?
Is attacking Iraq going to stop terrorist?
It would be much more effective if the US abide by what it preach, by stopping reseach & developing WMD.
Why don?t Bush call out Sadam & have a mono vs. mono, and the leave the poor innocent civilian out of this childish but deathly game.
Is attacking Iraq going to stop others from acquiring nukes?
Is attacking Iraq going to stop terrorist?
It would be much more effective if the US abide by what it preach, by stopping reseach & developing WMD.
Why don?t Bush call out Sadam & have a mono vs. mono, and the leave the poor innocent civilian out of this childish but deathly game.
HappyPuppy, I know that I'm full of shyt from your point of view. I was just responding on a metaphysical plane known only to me, to Saltboy's provocative challenge to 'tale that Bush haters'. I felt it required something from a parallel universe of sorts, a sort of, 'take that you sane thinkers' riposte from left space. It feeds the wolf without offending the lamb. 😀
"Material breach. There is no doubt...no doubt...that Iraq is in material breach." Colin Powell has said this after the declaration has been examined. If there is no doubt, why then do I have doubt? If you have no doubt, then you are admitting that you don't need any proof...you will just believe whatever our government tells you. Let me repeat myself, "Please show us the proof. If we see the proof I am confident that your supporters will grow drastically."
From today's speech by SoS Colin Powell
And let me just touch on a few examples, and we'll be giving out a fact sheet later with additional examples.
Before the inspectors were forced to leave Iraq, they concluded that Iraq could have produced 26,000 liters of anthrax. That is three times the amount Iraq had declared. Yet, the Iraqi declaration is silent on this stockpile, which, alone, would be enough to kill several million people.
The regime also admitted that it had manufactured 19,180 liters of a biological agent called botchulinum toxin. UN inspectors later determined that the Iraqis could have produced 38,360 additional liters. However, once again, the Iraqi declaration is silent on these missing supplies.
The Iraqi declaration also says nothing about the uncounted, unaccounted precursors from which Iraq could have produced up to 500 tons of mustard gas, sarin gas and VX nerve gas.
Nor does the declaration address questions that have arisen since the inspectors left in 1998. For example, we know that in the late 1990s, Iraq built mobile biological weapons production units. Yet, the declaration tries to waive this away, mentioning only mobile refrigeration vehicles and food-testing laboratories.
We also know that Iraq has tried to obtain high-strength aluminum tubes which can be used to enrich uranium in centrifuges for a nuclear weapons program. The Iraqi regime is required by Resolution 1441 to report those attempts. Iraq, however, has failed to provide adequate information about the procurement and use of these tubes.
Then this is the next paragraph...
Most brazenly of all, the Iraqi declaration denies the existence of any prohibited weapons programs at all. The United States, the United Nations and the world waited for this declaration from Iraq. But Iraq's response is a catalogue of recycled information and flagrant omissions. It should be obvious that the pattern of systematic holes and gaps in Iraq's declaration is not the result of accidents or editing oversights or technical mistakes. These are material omissions that, in our view, constitute another material breach.
Now why, after the above paragraph, don't we just lay our cards on the table, reveal what we know, prove that Iraq is lying, and lite the fuse?
From today's speech by SoS Colin Powell
And let me just touch on a few examples, and we'll be giving out a fact sheet later with additional examples.
Before the inspectors were forced to leave Iraq, they concluded that Iraq could have produced 26,000 liters of anthrax. That is three times the amount Iraq had declared. Yet, the Iraqi declaration is silent on this stockpile, which, alone, would be enough to kill several million people.
The regime also admitted that it had manufactured 19,180 liters of a biological agent called botchulinum toxin. UN inspectors later determined that the Iraqis could have produced 38,360 additional liters. However, once again, the Iraqi declaration is silent on these missing supplies.
The Iraqi declaration also says nothing about the uncounted, unaccounted precursors from which Iraq could have produced up to 500 tons of mustard gas, sarin gas and VX nerve gas.
Nor does the declaration address questions that have arisen since the inspectors left in 1998. For example, we know that in the late 1990s, Iraq built mobile biological weapons production units. Yet, the declaration tries to waive this away, mentioning only mobile refrigeration vehicles and food-testing laboratories.
We also know that Iraq has tried to obtain high-strength aluminum tubes which can be used to enrich uranium in centrifuges for a nuclear weapons program. The Iraqi regime is required by Resolution 1441 to report those attempts. Iraq, however, has failed to provide adequate information about the procurement and use of these tubes.
Then this is the next paragraph...
Most brazenly of all, the Iraqi declaration denies the existence of any prohibited weapons programs at all. The United States, the United Nations and the world waited for this declaration from Iraq. But Iraq's response is a catalogue of recycled information and flagrant omissions. It should be obvious that the pattern of systematic holes and gaps in Iraq's declaration is not the result of accidents or editing oversights or technical mistakes. These are material omissions that, in our view, constitute another material breach.
Now why, after the above paragraph, don't we just lay our cards on the table, reveal what we know, prove that Iraq is lying, and lite the fuse?
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