Heavy US Casulaties Predicted by Iraq

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: Queasy
My prediction:
The Iraqi army will put together a surrender that will put the French to shame!

Now, that would be hard to do... even for Iraqis.
😉

For sale: vintage WWII french infrantry rifle. Never fired, only dropped once.

another moron who does not know what he's talking about

 

[GlassReflection]

Originally posted by: rawoutput
We lost about 80 soldiers in the Gulf War, compared to what, 150,000 Iraqi's?

WRONG

Many many many thousand AMERICAN soldiers have died of gulf war syndrome.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: Queasy
My prediction:
The Iraqi army will put together a surrender that will put the French to shame!

Now, that would be hard to do... even for Iraqis.
😉

For sale: vintage WWII french infrantry rifle. Never fired, only dropped once.

another moron who does not know what he's talking about

Yet another person tragically born without a sense of humor.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: FoBoT just like last time

except this isn't going to be fought in the desert, it's going to be fought in an urban environment

Shhh don?t tell them. Also don?t mention the fact that last time they were fighting for some well they had no interest in. Now they may fight in their own homes. May not come to that, but the arrogance shown here means there is no understanding of what warfare can be.

Also don't mention that the majority of Iraqi's a Shiite and hate Hussien (a secular Sunni) with a passion, a fact that's not lost of Hussien. In fact he doesn't even trust his own Republican Guard moving the vast majority of them out of Baghdad in the recent months. The real Battle of Iraq will not be between Hussein?s Troops and the Coalition but with the Shiite Population if we don't let them rule their own country. We also have to worry about the Iraqi Kurds in the North West who have set up a Defacto Government of their own there. We promised our allies the Turks that we wouldn't allow them to Secede from Iraq and continue to run as an Independent State.

 

[Analog]

ooh ooh, what did we have, 25 casualties last time, and 50% were friendly fire?

 

[Spikey217]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: KGB
You guys are sounding like you think we're going in there wham bam.. We Win! WTH! Ever been in war? If you have; YOU WOULDNT BE TALKING like the way people above ME were talking. Hey numbskulls war is NOT EASY nor is IT PRETTY nor is it CHEAP! WTH man like you guys want this? I hope you feel fine about being drafted. This is not your DoD, or MOHAA or Quake 3. WTH man, I'll bet none of you can pass 3 months of PT because youre talking baout WAR in front of a COMPUTER. I've worked with guys who were SEALS that deployed on South Iraq as a Decoy for the main invasion. Even they were scared stiff because this MIGHT be their last day.

Honestly this looks like its EASY, since maybe we are technologically advance, but nothing is perfect and NOTHING should be presumed. Because our generals arent presuming, they are ACTING out their strategies. Don't you guys talk about how funny Iraq is and how easy it will be. Just pray for the families and soldiers. You should be ashamed of making a thread like this. I for one would want this thread locked. 🙁

That was the best response I've ever heard in ANY of these threads. Good words.

ditto

 

[Pokey007]

Hotter than Saddam's Mother: B&M War with Iraq. Only $9 Billion a month!!!!

 

[BooneRebel]

I think you all missed the point of the thread. IRAQ is predicting heavy US casualties. What else would they predict? Do you think that their government is going to infuse the media with reports that they will quickly falter after heavy Iraq casualties?

By the same token, do you expect the US media to report anything other than heavy Iraq casualties?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
ooh ooh, what did we have, 25 casualties last time, and 50% were friendly fire?

Fool.

Say that to the families of those men.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: Queasy
My prediction:
The Iraqi army will put together a surrender that will put the French to shame!

Now, that would be hard to do... even for Iraqis.
😉

For sale: vintage WWII french infrantry rifle. Never fired, only dropped once.

another moron who does not know what he's talking about

Yet another person tragically born without a sense of humor.

I have a sense of humor. I usually laugh at good jokes. The "surrendering french" was at least remotely funny few years ago. Sadly, it's just getting "a bit" old. Not to mention that the facts don't really support it.

 

[StageLeft]

Heavy Iraq casualties predicted by US 🙂

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: GlassReflection

Originally posted by: rawoutput
We lost about 80 soldiers in the Gulf War, compared to what, 150,000 Iraqi's?

WRONG

Many many many thousand AMERICAN soldiers have died of gulf war syndrome.

How is this possible?...Everyone knows that Iraq does not have chemical or biological weapons like Mustard Gas or Sarin. Even if he did, he is such a peaceful and loving ruler...just ask the UN and his brainwashed citizens... 😀



yet another reason to kill the bastid

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: GlassReflection

Originally posted by: rawoutput
We lost about 80 soldiers in the Gulf War, compared to what, 150,000 Iraqi's?

WRONG

Many many many thousand AMERICAN soldiers have died of gulf war syndrome.

How is this possible?...Everyone knows that Iraq does not have chemical or biological weapons like Mustard Gas or Sarin. Even if he did, he is such a peaceful and loving ruler...just ask the UN and his brainwashed citizens... 😀

yet another reason to kill the bastid

How can you know that it's not caused by the DU-ammo used in the Gulf?

 

[Phuz]

This isn't "desert storm: 2"... Sadam is in a different situation. This is the final deal for him... the USA wants him dead.
When you back a mad man into a corner, he's going to bite.
IF the US expects to simply have a few "minor" casualties... we can only hope... but, this is going to be a war involving chemicals and gasses.
He has nothing left to lose.

What about things like this?

Its going to be a dirty war.. mass amounts of units on foot in the open dessert.. regardless of protection, people will still be affected if there are gasses involved. Theres no tried-tested-and-true method to this type of combat. (Gulf War Syndrome?)

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: GlassReflection

Originally posted by: rawoutput
We lost about 80 soldiers in the Gulf War, compared to what, 150,000 Iraqi's?

WRONG

Many many many thousand AMERICAN soldiers have died of gulf war syndrome.

How is this possible?...Everyone knows that Iraq does not have chemical or biological weapons like Mustard Gas or Sarin. Even if he did, he is such a peaceful and loving ruler...just ask the UN and his brainwashed citizens... 😀

yet another reason to kill the bastid

How can you know that it's not caused by the DU-ammo used in the Gulf?

Radiation poisoning has different symptoms than Gulf War Syndrome and last time I checked, we were the ones pulling the trigger on the depleted uranium shells

"During combat operations, there is a possibility of personnel casualties being contaminated with DU, as occurred during Operation Desert Storm. Additionally, foreign militaries now have access to DU munitions. If the integrity of DU materials is compromised, such as when munitions are fired or armor is pierced, uranium can then react with other elements contiguous to it in the environment. This can create chemical reactions that may yield compounds with various chemical toxicities. Toxicologically, DU poses a health risk when internalized. Radiologically, the radiation emitted by DU results in health risks from both external and internal exposures, however, the external exposure risk is very low."

"Numerous veterans, including NBC team members, have testified before congressional committees over the last several years that their chemical alarms repeatedly went off, often at the same time these units were subjected to SCUD missile attacks. The DoD has explained these incidents by stating that the alarms were set off in error by smoke and diesel fumes. However, the alarms did not go off before the start of the air war on 17 Jan 91, despite the ongoing presence of smoke and diesel fumes. Further, the Senate Banking Committee released a report in 1994 which documented the fact that the alarms will only go off when chemical concentrations reach levels over one thousand times the amount needed to harm human beings."

"Former Senator Reigle (D-Michigan) sent some equipment brought back from the Persian Gulf by veterans to Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. This equipment was tested for possible chemical and biological agent contamination. Positive findings were reported"

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Radiation poisoning has different symptoms than Gulf War Syndrome and last time I checked, we were the ones pulling the trigger on the depleted uranium shells

Yet the troops were exposed to it, even though you were the ones doing the shooting (as it happens, it seems that the symptoms are alot worse on the Iraqis than on the coalition forces). And if you are so sure that DU didn't do it, you wouldn't mind inhaling some of that DU-dust that the exploding tanks generated?

And if I remember correctly (I might be wrong here though), some of the troops in former Yugoslavia and Kosovo are having similar symptoms. there were no chemical weapons there, but lots of DU-rounds were used.

 

[burnedout]

How can you know that it's not caused by the DU-ammo used in the Gulf?

Because I've slept on top of ammo boxes filled with DU - APDS ammo. Also sat 1/2 inch from ready boxes full of the sh!t for extended periods.

When it bothers me, if ever, I'll let you know.

 

[markuskidd]

Radiation poisoning has different symptoms than Gulf War Syndrome and last time I checked, we were the ones pulling the trigger on the depleted uranium shells

"During combat operations, there is a possibility of personnel casualties being contaminated with DU, as occurred during Operation Desert Storm. Additionally, foreign militaries now have access to DU munitions. If the integrity of DU materials is compromised, such as when munitions are fired or armor is pierced, uranium can then react with other elements contiguous to it in the environment. This can create chemical reactions that may yield compounds with various chemical toxicities. Toxicologically, DU poses a health risk when internalized. Radiologically, the radiation emitted by DU results in health risks from both external and internal exposures, however, the external exposure risk is very low."

"Numerous veterans, including NBC team members, have testified before congressional committees over the last several years that their chemical alarms repeatedly went off, often at the same time these units were subjected to SCUD missile attacks. The DoD has explained these incidents by stating that the alarms were set off in error by smoke and diesel fumes. However, the alarms did not go off before the start of the air war on 17 Jan 91, despite the ongoing presence of smoke and diesel fumes. Further, the Senate Banking Committee released a report in 1994 which documented the fact that the alarms will only go off when chemical concentrations reach levels over one thousand times the amount needed to harm human beings."

"Former Senator Reigle (D-Michigan) sent some equipment brought back from the Persian Gulf by veterans to Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. This equipment was tested for possible chemical and biological agent contamination. Positive findings were reported"

If you take a look at your OWN source, you will see:

there is a possibility of personnel casualties being contaminated with DU, as occurred during Operation Desert Storm

:sigh:

 

[TapTap]

I have a sense of humor. I usually laugh at good jokes. The "surrendering french" was at least remotely funny few years ago. Sadly, it's just getting "a bit" old. Not to mention that the facts don't really support it.

Facts huh..
Tell that to the "Vichy" that are still being prosecuted to this day.
Just 'cause you got a burr up your arse about Socialism vs Captitalism, as evidenced by your stupid sig line, doesnt mean you should post this thread. Your comments have nothing to do here, and your views on a dead way of life less.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: StormRider
I hope this war never happens because I have a bad feeling about it. Some of us are way too cocky and whenever I see a fighter get too cocky, he loses (Tyson vs Buster Douglas).

In the war against terrorism we were doomed from the begining. Nobody is going to win

Our children will win. If we don't fight, then we've already lost without at least trying.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: etech
U.S.: Iraq Plans Scorched-Earth Strategy

One improvement in Saddam's military in recent years has been in communications, officials said. Chinese and Turkish companies have helped Iraq lay a nationwide fiber-optic network that is difficult for U.S. forces to cut off and monitor.

Once they drop a few bombs and splinter some of those cables they're not going to be much good. Very hard to reconnect in such a short time.

WASHINGTON - Iraq is preparing to destroy its own oil fields, food supplies and power plants and blame America for the devastation in the event of war, U.S. intelligence officials said Wednesday.
Ain't going to be easy.

Yea once Iraq shoots themself in the foot I'm sure it's going to make it all the harder for us. 😛 We should let them destroy their food/oil/energy reserves and then postpone the war for a year. 😀