HeatSink/Fan Suggestions

[RedTail]

Greetings,

Here is my setup:

MOBO: ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI HDMI ATX
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RAM : CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
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CPU: AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
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I bought this: ASUS Lion Square 92mm Vapo Bearing CPU Cooler

Unfortunately the heat sink would not fit due to the RAM sticks.

What I am looking for is a quiet heatsink that is going to fit on my cpu without any space conflicts.

I am not to concerned as much on the length (that lions head was huge) but the width. I need one

that either sits up real high over the RAM or just one that I guess is tall and not to much

bigger than the actual CPU?

Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

[RedTail]

Perhaps a tough question?
Did'nt get to much of a response on the heatsink suggestion. I guess its tough if you dont own. I still have a couple of questions. On that AMD 9850...do you think that it will give adequate cooling until I can find one that will fit? Im not intending to overclock anytime soon. Also, do you know of a program that will monitor the cpu temperature?
Hmmm...wonder what the normal range of temp would be for that 9850?
Not to experienced in this area. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
RedTail

 

[mpilchfamily]

If your not OCing then there is no need to upgrade from the stock cooler. So stick with what it came with. As long as the case has adiquate cooling the CPU temp will be fine. They by no means under spec the stock cooler.

As for temp monitoring download Coretemp and you'll be all set. But your motherboard should have come with temp monitoring software.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Given the ram coolers and the big 'ol mosfet sink on that board, I'd have to say something smaller like the Xigmatek HDT-S963 or the Thermalright Ultima 90 *should* fit just fine.

And no, you don't *HAVE* to swap out the HSF even for mild overclocking but, you wouldn't be an enthusiast if you didn't and given the fact that you bought a motherboard that has heatpipes running to your ram sticks, I'd say it's no stretch to say you're going for the enthusiast thing here.

 

[RedTail]

Thats great news.....Stock HSF will be inital option here. One other thing that I cant figure out is that the fans (which are the huge 250 mm fans) have a adjustment control? Would anybody know where these connect to?
MOBO : OBO: ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI HDMI ATX

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Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811103014
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131290

Does anybody know where the fan connections go for this board?

Such a Noob!

RedTail

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I can see from the pictures that the side 360mm fan uses a four pin loex connector and will therefore be non-adjustable without an adapter, if the front uses the same connector, the same situation applies. You can however get four pin molex to three pin adapters at most e-tailers.

 

[RedTail]

Hmmmm,
Will I need to buy this adapter for the side fan to fit on the board?
Thanks,
RedTail

 

[RedTail]

Ok...the more I look...the more im confused.
What type of fan cables to I need for all this to work.
I have adjustable fan blades in the front and back.
Im also installing a 120 mm fan in the back....of course I know where to put
the cpu fans. I do know this....the side fans cable is not long at all so I know I will need
a extension. Am I gonna get the power from all molex's or mobo connections?
Any help for the noob?
thanks,
RedTail
{Possibly a link to purchase would be kewl}

 

[DerwenArtos12]

If you just wanted a fixed RPM for the front and side fans you can vary the acoustics quite a lot with just altering the blade pitch. If you'd like to hook them up to a motherboard header in order to be able to control the fan rpm you'll need an adapter like this.

 

[RedTail]

Looks like this guy had some issues as well.
Can someone tell me what to buy and how to hook the side fan up and also I will
need to hook the optional 120 mm fan up in the back. Looks like

 

[RedTail]

Sorry for the stupid question....Im defanately a noob....there are two fans that I need to hook up....im not concerned with adjusting the rpm...full speed is fine. One 120 mm fan in the back --- 2x25 side fan....how would you hook these up? Again im......such a noob...thanks, redtail

 

[RedTail]

can I just connect these two fans directly to the mobo?

 

[RedTail]

Yes ... the side fan does have a regular 4 pin power connection to the psu. That just controls the led I think? There is another 3 pin or 4 pin connection that you can see hanging down on the right hand side. Im thinking that this needs to be connected to the mobo? Im confused......
RedTail

 

[mpilchfamily]

The other 3 pin connector is to connect to the motherboard. It gives no power to the fan. All its for is feeding the fan speed information to the board so you can monitor it threw the monitoring software that comes with most motherboards. If the fan has a 4 pin standard power plug that is where its getting all its power. Just plug it into the PSU and your good to go. The LEDs are connected inline with the fan motor and don't use a separate power connector.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Did you just say that I have some issues?

I've been trying to help you, rather diligently, and I gave you a link to the exact connector you would need to connect your side fan to the motherboard. If you're satisfied with full rpm all the time, then just plug it in to a power line off your PSU and move on.

 

[RedTail]

I thank both of you for helping the noob.
The reason im having the issue is because the 4 pin standard power connector does not seem to kick the fan on. It just seem to light up the blue led? The other fan connector seems to connect to the power for the fan to spin? Would that be correct? I do not have a long enough extension for this second cord to reach the mobo. I had to order a extension. The question is where this second cord goes? Not the standard 4 pin molex.
The adjustable rpm cords are totally seperate of course ... one in the front and one in the back.
Thanks,
Jon
Guys, im sorry...im slow with all this ....actually this is my very first build so im walking slowly.

 

[RedTail]

This what I c happening. Of course I connected the 4 pin molex to the fan,,,,again the lights lit up...but no movement...I was unable to connect the other 3 pin connector to the mobo due to a length problem. Perhaps once I connect the 3 pin to the mobo .... I am going to have to go into the bios and set the fan speed.
Hmm
Redtail

 

[DerwenArtos12]

We've all been there, it's all right. It's extremely odd for the manufacturer to put a separate power connection for the LEDs but, anything is possible. a basic fan extension should work just fine for you. They generally have three wires, red, black and yellow, red is your 12V, black your ground and yellow your RPM signal.

 

[RedTail]

Ok...I feel like a idiot if this is correct....the short 3 pin fan connection fits perfectly to the back wire from the fan speed control knob......I guess this is where it goes then the 4 pin molex of course to the fan itself. Man....xclio needs to improve there instructions drastically.....they just BITE! .... I guess thats it.....what yall think?
Technically, should the fan move and led lights come on just by just being attached to the 4 pin molex off of the psu and nothing else?
Thanks,
red

 

[DerwenArtos12]

If it were anyone elses design besides xclio I would say it should be one or the other, either adjustable speed through a fan header(3 or 4 pin) or fixed fan speed through a 4 pin molex connector but, given it's xclio I cannot in good conscience gaurintee it's either of those. If you have a digicam and could take pictures of the fan controller and both of the wire leads we could give you a better educated guess.

There is the third possibility of the four pin being for power and the three pin being for speed control only, as seen in some OLD thermaltake fans but, it's highly unlikely that they would use a standard 3 pin connector for the speed controller if that were the case.

 

[RedTail]

Derwen,
Looks like I found a link that answers are question. What irritates the hek out of me is xclio's lack of instructions.........I wish I had started this forum under Xclio fan connections to help the next noob.
Check it out....
http://www.techpowerup.com/pri...=/Apluscase/TwinEngine

"HOW OBVIOUS SAY'S THE NOOB!!!!!"

Thanks,
RedTail

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Well, I've got to say something just doesn't make sense. I think it must just be in how that site worded it. Seems to me that the three pin connectrion is used to power the fan motor and the four pin molex is used to power the LEDs. It's a strange design no matter how you look at it.