HEAT: How high is too high for a Barton?

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2500+ With an aero 7 lite HSF. I have it currently clocked at stock 2500+. The mobo reads a sys temp of 27 and I have a warning set to go off at 52. I started prime 95, since I wanted to begin OCing this and have a starting point, and within about 30 seconds I got the warning. I had my HSF fan spinning at only about 2100 and I've now cranked it up to full at 3300 rpm. So far (a few minutes) it's not setting off the warning. I'm hoping to hit 3200+ without any voltage raises, but I don't know if it's a great idea for this to be running long term at ~50 celcius!

I thought a lot of people were tricked out with these cpus (recent purchase from newegg BTW. I've had it running for 2 weeks without being oced or running prime or anything, and no alarm) and running low 40s!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

What sort of thermal compound are you using?

This review shows the "under load" of a Barton 2500+ with that cooler at 41C.

- M4H

 

[StageLeft]

I'm using the grease that came on the cooler. I know that good vs. bad grease is somethign to consider, but I've never seen that a good vs. a bad grease can be worth more than a degree or two...

 

[kyparrish]

went from grease on a speeze hsf to a layer of AS ceramique and it dropped my temps 6 degrees Celsius

 

[BlueWeasel]

As long as you keep it under 60C, you should be fine stability wise. The Bartons can run safely at higher temps, but I'd try to keep the max temp around 55C.

 

[StageLeft]

Thanks guys. I cranked the speed up to 3300 and even at 3200+ with 1.7 the temp isn't topping 46 (course it's not stable, but that's another thread - literally), so I guess I'm good to go. I've slowed down the speed a bit since at 3300 or so it sounds like a hair dryer.

 

[batmanuel]

With the same processor OC'd to 2.2 GHz at stock voltage and the using same cooler (with the blower running around 2500 RPM), I usually get around 35-45C according to Asus Probe (depending on the ambeint temps and CPU load). ADIA seems to agree, although it mixes up my CPU and motherboard sensors.

I used some Coolermaster Premium thermal compound (the stuff made my Shin Etsu). It goes on like peanut butter, so it is a bit annoying to work with, but it is a bit cheaper than the AS5 and from the reviews I've read it transmits heat almost as well, while at the same time being non-conductive so you don't have to worry about shorting any of processor bridges if you get a bit messy liek you do with AS.

Is the rest of your ventilation okay? I'd assume so, but it's worth asking.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: batmanuel
With the same processor OC'd to 2.2 GHz at stock voltage and the using same cooler (with the blower running around 2500 RPM), I usually get around 35-45C according to Asus Probe (depending on the ambeint temps and CPU load). ADIA seems to agree, although it mixes up my CPU and motherboard sensors.

I used some Coolermaster Premium thermal compound (the stuff made my Shin Etsu). It goes on like peanut butter, so it is a bit annoying to work with, but it is a bit cheaper than the AS5 and from the reviews I've read it transmits heat almost as well, while at the same time being non-conductive so you don't have to worry about shorting any of processor bridges if you get a bit messy liek you do with AS.

Is the rest of your ventilation okay? I'd assume so, but it's worth asking.

rest of ventilation is great. I've now got not a heat problem, but a wall hit my my cpu in the other thread. damn thing won't top 187 FSB.

 

[Manzelle]

I have my 2500+ set to 200x11.5 or 2.3GHz and I idle at 35C and haven't reached 42C on a full load yet. TR SP-97 + AS5 = the money!

 

[StageLeft]

OK my CPU is now going along at 11 X 200 and 1.725 volts. I have the coolermaster grease on there now and my alarm this second is going off at 54 C, so I guess I have to up it. My HSF (aero 7 lite) is going at 3100 RPM. I don't want to raise it up more becuse it's loud. This is a fairly cheap CPU though so I suppose if worse comes to worse I can have it run at high 50's for the rest of its life

 

[psyconius]

Every chip I have every owned has run in the high 50's :/

From a K6-2/450 to my XP 2100 =P

 

[DanZee]

My two cents worth. I think that 54 C is not high for a Barton. As mentioned in another thread I had IDLE temps of around 54 C and everything was dandy-ho apart from the nagging feeling that I should be seeing less (used to having <38 C idle on my old CPU). Since the Bartons are rated at 85 C Max, I would think that anything in excess of 20 C below that should be fine. So you CPU will have a lifetime of 5 years instead of nominal 10, who cares. People switch CPU's once every 12-14 months anyway...

As they say: if it's stable - it's not too hot...

Never burned a CPU in my life... Even had my PSU go belly up on me taking everything with it EXCEPT the CPU and, for some reason, the sound card (shame about the Radeon 9800XT though... oh, well). I'm diverging. So, to sum all that nonsense up - less than 65 C = you're fine.

Disclaimer

I will not accept responsibility for your burned CPU.

 

[Tango57]

i think your cpu temps are fine. according to amd's website, max die temp for the barton is 85 C and you're well below that. i'm running a 2500+ @ to 2.2 ghz (11x, 1.65v, 200 fsb), cooler master aero 7+ with artic alumina compound and my idle temp is about 47 C and at max load about 57 C. i'd agree though that artic silver 5 is probably the best way to go. i've read a couple of reviews on it and from reading the experiences of others here in this forum who have used it, seem like their temps all dropped down by about 6 or more degrees.

 

[Killrose]

I know that running prime95 does a good job getting the CPU to max temp, which most other daily routine apps don't. So I would'nt worry at all about "reported" temps in the range of 55C, though like you and everyone else, lower is better.

I think we would all crap our pants if we knew what our actual CPU die temps really are, instead of what is being "Reported" by our motherboards. It has been speculated they are sugar coated to prevent piles of RMA's.

 

[joe2004]

I think it very much depend on the motherboard. The differences in reporting could be 10-15C so don't believe everything you see. I am always happy to see below 50C since then I know my CPU is really below 65C at the worst which is fine with me.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Get AIDA32 and read the CPU diode temps. That will be a more accurate temperature of the CPU itself. But 50C socket? nothing to worry about.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
Get AIDA32 and read the CPU diode temps. That will be a more accurate temperature of the CPU itself. But 50C socket? nothing to worry about.

I have an XP2500 @ 2.2 Ghz right now on 1.650 volts. The diode temp is bouncing between 52 and 54 degrees C while running SETI@Home, CPU socket temp is steady at 49 degrees C, case temp is reading 20 degrees C. I'm using an SK-7 heatsink, Arctic Silver 5, and an 80 mm Panaflo (3000 RPM I think).

 

[WobbleWobble]

My XP2500 @ 2.1 GHz at 1.775V has the diode at 56-58C diode and 50C socket under load.

Zalman CNPS-7000A Cu, AS5 fan running at ~5V.