Heartrenching Quote From An Ordinary Afghanistan Citizen

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russw

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<< I agree. I'm sure most members of this fourm are pro-euthenasia anyway. >>



That's sick :|
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Agreed!. Hopefully both Howard & Syringe are just playing a devil's advocate role here, otherwise I'd suggest they do all sane people a favor and "Go Play in Traffic":D
...russ
 

Hotdog

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The ironic thing is if we go into Afghanistan, her quality of life will probably improve. And yet she will hate us even more. I don't think the people who are subject to the rule of these extemist regimes understand that we don't care what religion they are just that we don't want them killing people. Think of all the money the terrorsits spent training and preparing for the act and how far it could have gone to improve the lives of their fellow Muslims.
 

doublec16

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What happened on Tuesday was a tragedy, and shouldn't have happened. Thousands of innocent people perished because someone was trying to make a point. Declaring war and killing innocent Afghan people out of revenge might make some people feel good and justified, as I am sure whoever committed the murder in Arizona felt good and justified, but it doesn't make it right.
 

hans007

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killing innocent people to make up for the killing of innocent people, just makes us terrorists. we did it in world war 2 and i hope we dont do it again.
 

xyyz

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<< Russ,I have no blood lust,i'm just pissed off and cannot concern myself with the people of the country where these attackers are being hidden. There would be no war if they would just give him up,but they won't so let war commence. >>



Well then beat the hell outta the taliban... not the innocent afghanis... trust me if they could they'd give you all the taliban and Osama Bin Laden's heads on spikes...

Fry... EXCELLENT POST... I was looking for that exact quote but was unable to find it.
 

xyyz

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<< Civilian life will be lost in the middle east and I cannot tell you honestly that it bothers me much. >>



So I guess it doesn't bother you that 5000 people died in New York.

What you are saying is that American humans are worth more that Afghan humans.
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no... noone's saying this...

what's being said or shown rather... is that Americans are not savages.... we are the leaders in the world... when it comes to fairness and compassion... we are bigger people than everyone... we are concerned with Justice rather than vengence.

innocent lives are innocent lives... they are all valuable.
 

xyyz

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<< Have seen this?


Koran 59.2: He it is Who caused those who disbelieved of the followers of the Book to go forth from their homes at the first banishment you did not think that they would go forth, while they were certain that their fortresses would defend them against Allah; but Allah came to them whence they did not expect, and cast terror into their hearts; they demolished their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers; therefore take a lesson, O you who have eyes!

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3.151: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

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5.33: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

"....Kill those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...." (Sura 9:5)

"When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...." (Sura 47:4)

"....Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden....until they pay tribute..." (Sura 9:29)

"Say to the infidels: If they desist, what is now past shall be forgiven them; but if they return, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's." (Sura 8:39)

"Proclaim a grievious penalty to those who reject faith." (Sura 9:3).

"I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." (Sura 8.12)

"Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away... strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy... rouse the faithful to arms!" (Sura 8:59)
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Where did you get all of this? Did oyu take it in it's full form... or did you pull it out of context?

Anyways... tomorrow you will get the full form of all these verses... along with a detailed explanation...

I think you've done what the taliban has done... that being you've manipulated the Qu'ran (NOT koran) to serve your purpose...

Your purpose would be to be a jackass and try to dispute the entire Muslim popluation of this world when they say Islam is a peaceful religion... no matter I'll prove it tomorrow.
 

xyyz

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<< Even though this may sound kind of heartless and twisted....bombing the city might even do these people some good ... putting them out of their misery. It's another form of Euthanasia, a painful one. >>



I agree. I'm sure most members of this fourm are pro-euthenasia anyway.
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yeah we all agree that you need to be euthanized....
 

ttn1

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Alot of people here talk about the Taliban like they are a completely seperate entity from Afghanistan. The truth is a large majority of Afghans must support the Taliban, otherwise they wouldn't be in power. Even as a dictatorship.

I'm sure there are lots of Afghans, and Middle Easterners in general, who hate the "terrorism". There are also countless others who think the US is a bullying, self-absorbed country that only cares about its precious gasoline. With very few other recourses, they turn to guerilla warfare as a form of retalitation.

I am not condoning any terrorist act, but people need to look at this objectively. The truth is that in the end the US and its allies WILL win and, as such, will write the history that surrounds this tragedy and the subsequent tragedies in the attempt to wipe out terrorism.

I just ask that the American people ask yourselves on question:
What would drive a person to commit such a horrendous act? There has to be a reason and I believe that it had much more to do with economics and oil than religious activism.

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xyyz

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<< Alot of people here talk about the Taliban like they are a completely seperate entity from Afghanistan. The truth is a large majority of Afghans must support the Taliban, otherwise they wouldn't be in power. Even as a dictatorship.

I'm sure there are lots of Afghans, and Middle Easterners in general, who hate the "terrorism". There are also countless others who think the US is a bullying, self-absorbed country that only cares about its precious gasoline. With very few other recourses, they turn to guerilla warfare as a form of retalitation.

I am not condoning any terrorist act, but people need to look at this objectively. The truth is that in the end the US and its allies WILL win and, as such, will write the history that surrounds this tragedy and the subsequent tragedies in the attempt to wipe out terrorism.

I just ask that the American people ask yourselves on question:
What would drive a person to commit such a horrendous act? There has to be a reason and I believe that it had much more to do with economics and oil than religious activism.

ttn1
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read the post that Fry mentioned... you might also want to look to see if you can find another post by an afghani expariot... it tells you exactly why the Afghani population can't get rid of the Taliban.

 

ttn1

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I understand the Afghani population would find it next to impossible to unseat the Taliban. I agree with being very careful of civilian casualties in Aghanistan. If, in fact, that is were the US strikes.

Most of this bomb everything 'retoric' is people allowing their emotions to get away from them. The average American has no idea what is going on in the rest of the world. It would be nice to have the American people understand were a large majority of this hatred of the US comes from.

It's also very hard to convince a hot-headed group of individuals that not everyone with brown skin condones the killing of civilians in a terrorist bombing.

The entire US needs to calm down and wake up to world politics.

ttn1
 

russw

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Hotdog wisely opines:

The ironic thing is if we go into Afghanistan, her quality of life will probably improve. And yet she will hate us even more.


so true! Hate is a learned behaviour!
...russ