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Hearings on the radicalization of American Muslims

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Despite attempts by King and others to push the argument that Muslim Americans haven’t done enough to combat terrorism, the evidence shows that Muslims are very concerned about terrorism. Individually and collectively, Muslim Americans have turned in or contributed to the arrest of many suspected terrorists, including the Times Square bomber and the Hutaree, and some Muslims have helped intelligence agencies to infiltrate the al-Qaeda network. For a thorough debunking of the idea that Muslims collectively don’t help counterterrorism or law enforcement:

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/rep._peter_kings_muslim_phobia/0018333#6
 
SandEagle said:
i dont care if you eat cookies out the toilet either. no one gives a shit what you do. its written by Americans for Americans about Americans.
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Before I click on it can you just tell me who wrote it?

TareX said:
Despite attempts by King and others to push the argument that Muslim Americans haven’t done enough to combat terrorism, the evidence shows that Muslims are very concerned about terrorism. Individually and collectively, Muslim Americans have turned in or contributed to the arrest of many suspected terrorists, including the Times Square bomber and the Hutaree, and some Muslims have helped intelligence agencies to infiltrate the al-Qaeda network. For a thorough debunking of the idea that Muslims collectively don’t help counterterrorism or law enforcement:

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/rep._peter_kings_muslim_phobia/0018333#6
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If any of that were true how come I never here about muhammadans speaking out against terrorism?
 
nyker96 said:
Many Muslims are very nervous about the upcoming 'Hearings on the radicalization of American Muslims' on Capital Hill that's coming up this month.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb...-king-20110210
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So how soon before the Muslims take over the United States of America?

Do these idiot americans who support the Muslims understand that they are just opening the flood gates for the United states as we know it to be converted to a Muslim country??

I am all in favor of Muslims coming to America to live and raise a family but let that not be mistaken as being in favor of giving up our Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or the Bill of Rights to be substituted for anything Muslim!!

I have always been in favor immigrants learning English and filling out forms in English and going to English schools and taking the written portion of the driving test in English...etc...etc...

We all should be able to worship as we please...just don`t push your religion or your religious ideas on me!!

You come to America you follow our laws and you speak the language of the land....Mexican..oopps I mean English!!!
 
God forbid that these Muslims outnumber the Jewish voting blocks in Florida and New York, then what will happen with the US support/aid to Israel.
 
Lemon law said:
The DRIZZLE sez, "Muslims in my area were out in the streets celebrating on 9/11."

Pray tell, what area do you live in? Because in the area of the USA I live in, I did not see one single Muslim dancing in the street following 911. -- Yes but most Muslims are educated and are not forced to live down in the bayou in a 20 ft mobile home.

Pray tell, tell us where you live, facts are sharp things, they can be cross checked, and I intend to do so when you post your location.
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YES, no all mind you but some were having 9/11 parties!!
 
Londo_Jowo said:
God forbid that these Muslims outnumber the Jewish voting blocks in Florida and New York, then what will happen with the US support/aid to Israel.
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whata a chump you are...again....
most of us Jews could care less whether the United states supports us or not....
Trust me when I say we would do just fine!!
 
GarfieldtheCat said:
If you don't understand that concept that like probably 99.5% of all Muslims are like you (actually, better then you, since they don't come in supporting crap like this), and don't have anything to do with things like you posted. 99.5% of all Muslims are just like 99.5% of all Americans. They want a decent job, make good money and just be able to get through their lives OK.
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So for the other 0.5% or 16,000,000 Muslims, they are radical and most likely extremely dangerous. For comparisons sake, that is more than the total number of Jews in the entire world---and look how dangerous they are. They run Hollywood and all finances in the entire US. 🙂

BTW, I googled "number of Muslims in the world" and "number of Jews in the world" and took results from various sites. So your estimate is as good as mine for actual numbers.
 
‎"Our real enemy is not Islam or Muslims," said the
imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf. "The enemy is extremism and radicalism and
radical ideology.

Uhhh that's the whole point of the hearing.
 
JockoJohnson said:
So for the other 0.5% or 16,000,000 Muslims, they are radical and most likely extremely dangerous. For comparisons sake, that is more than the total number of Jews in the entire world---and look how dangerous they are. They run Hollywood and all finances in the entire US. 🙂

BTW, I googled "number of Muslims in the world" and "number of Jews in the world" and took results from various sites. So your estimate is as good as mine for actual numbers.
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I don't really know why you are posting this, since it has nothing to do with my argument. I don't think is has anything to do with anything, actually.

In case you missed it, demonizing a whole religion on the basis of the actions of what, .5% of its members, is the point. We probably have a crazy .5% of Christians in the US that have committed crimes, I don't see you or this idiot of a congressman demanding an investigation of radial Christianity.
 
you don't need hearings, Just read the Qu'ran some take it too seriously and have sudden Jihad syndrome (SJS) most don't.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Yes, once Israel unleashes the Samson option, destroying itself and the surrounding countries all will be good.
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As usual your idiotic comments bemuse me....
I srael will never unleash the samson option except for as a last resort and even then I question whether they would.......
Yet if other countries in the middle east had that option they would have already nused it on israel...go figure!!
 
JEDIYoda said:
whata a chump you are...again....
most of us Jews could care less whether the United states supports us or not....
Trust me when I say we would do just fine!!
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To put it mildly, JediY many of us do not trust you, and when the day comes when the USA refuses to block anti Israeli resolutions in the UN security council, trust me, JediY, its going to be the obsolete end of Israeli apartheid policies.

You can yump up and down saying how mighty the Israeli nuclear military is, but in the grand scheme of things, if Israel does not straighten up their act, they will face a world wide economic embargo the Israeli military have no power to oppose.
 
GarfieldtheCat said:
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Originally Posted by JockoJohnson View Post
So for the other 0.5% or 16,000,000 Muslims, they are radical and most likely extremely dangerous. For comparisons sake, that is more than the total number of Jews in the entire world---and look how dangerous they are. They run Hollywood and all finances in the entire US.

BTW, I googled "number of Muslims in the world" and "number of Jews in the world" and took results from various sites. So your estimate is as good as mine for actual numbers.
I don't really know why you are posting this, since it has nothing to do with my argument. I don't think is has anything to do with anything, actually.

In case you missed it, demonizing a whole religion on the basis of the actions of what, .5% of its members, is the point. We probably have a crazy .5% of Christians in the US that have committed crimes, I don't see you or this idiot of a congressman demanding an investigation of radial Christianity.
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My point is to show that even a small percentage of the Islamic religion is still a huge number of people. And I would think that the .5% is low -- perhaps for the violent ones. I have seen polls (and that's all they are, just polls) saying that 10% are of the fundamentalist type of Muslims. The kind that believe in stoning women to death, cutting off the hands of thieves, honor killings, etc. That can be disputed, I won't even waste time pasting links that will undoubtedly be argued.

So, the main reason I posted it is to ask: at what point do people take their heads out of the sand and realize that there are legitimate concerns with extremist Muslims here in the U.S. and around the world?
 
JockoJohnson said:
My point is to show that even a small percentage of the Islamic religion is still a huge number of people. And I would think that the .5% is low -- perhaps for the violent ones. I have seen polls (and that's all they are, just polls) saying that 10% are of the fundamentalist type of Muslims. The kind that believe in stoning women to death, cutting off the hands of thieves, honor killings, etc. That can be disputed, I won't even waste time pasting links that will undoubtedly be argued.

So, the main reason I posted it is to ask: at what point do people take their heads out of the sand and realize that there are legitimate concerns with extremist Muslims here in the U.S. and around the world?
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You didn't answer my question. What about the .5% of radical Christians.

You give them a free pass from Congressional hearings? What is so different about them? they like to murder abortion doctors and do other crimes.

And you fail to recognize that extremism is the problem, and that extremism can come from anywhere, not just Muslims. Like Christians, Republicans, Deomcrats, Tea Baggers, etc......
 
GarfieldtheCat said:
And you fail to recognize that extremism is the problem, and that extremism can come from anywhere, not just Muslims. Like Christians, Republicans, Deomcrats, Tea Baggers, etc......
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Just look at the terrorist attacks in the US since 2000. Muslims have the highest death toll by far. It's not just random chance.

But to shut people like Garfield up I'd be happy to see the hearings spend an amount of time on each religion that is equal to their death toll in the past 10 or 20 years. There might be a couple minutes on Christianity and the rest would be on Islam.
 
JEDIYoda said:
As usual your idiotic comments bemuse me....
I srael will never unleash the samson option except for as a last resort and even then I question whether they would.......
Yet if other countries in the middle east had that option they would have already nused it on israel...go figure!!
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Just as your hatred towards Muslims amuses me. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the extreme factions within Israel goes off the deep end and brings on the destruction of the area even if that means self destruction to make sure no one can have the land.
 
GarfieldtheCat said:
You didn't answer my question. What about the .5% of radical Christians.

You give them a free pass from Congressional hearings? What is so different about them? they like to murder abortion doctors and do other crimes.

And you fail to recognize that extremism is the problem, and that extremism can come from anywhere, not just Muslims. Like Christians, Republicans, Deomcrats, Tea Baggers, etc......
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Go after them all then, each group individually. Each group should have its own type extremism addressed separately. It needs to be prioritized. Would it make you feel better if they went after the murderers of abortion doctors first and then went after the Muslim extremists? Or is it that you just don't want them going after Muslim extremists at all because you know deep down that they are complete batshit crazy and will act like animals when they get the spotlight put on them?

I have no problem going after each groups extremists. Just do it. We shouldn't NOT do it because we are afraid of how the group will behave when they get looked at.
 
TareX said:
Despite attempts by King and others to push the argument that Muslim Americans haven’t done enough to combat terrorism, the evidence shows that Muslims are very concerned about terrorism. --There is a huge difference between being concerned and doing anything about it..as in taking a stand against it!


Individually and collectively, Muslim Americans have turned in or contributed to the arrest of many suspected terrorists, including the Times Square bomber and the Hutaree, and some Muslims have helped intelligence agencies to infiltrate the al-Qaeda network. --- your dreaming and as usual doling out mis-information..of course the only proof you have is of the time square bomber being turned in by a muslim....what harm exactly did the time square bomber do??


For a thorough debunking of the idea that Muslims collectively don’t help counterterrorism or law enforcement:

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam...obia/0018333#6 -- hahahahahaaa yeah right...rofl...an unbiased link...rofl
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You are totally amazing..lol
 
I see this hearing as a step in the right direction. If you don't talk about radicalization of Muslims you will never understand the problem and never solve it. Pretending that it is not happening and crying foul because it is not PC to mention Muslim and radical in the same sentence.
This is a problem among the Muslim community they should be talking about it in the open not trying to sweep it under the rug. Just look what is happening US muslims going to Somalia, ME and planing and carrying out attacks on US soil. Canada has the same problems and it is more of melting pot socialist paradise than the us. There was a recent plot by Canadian born Muslims to storm parliament and kill Canadians, they even had a terrorist training camp set up there.
If someone has cancer you want to know why to cure it and to prevent it in the future.
 
JockoJohnson said:
Go after them all then, each group individually. Each group should have its own type extremism addressed separately. It needs to be prioritized. Would it make you feel better if they went after the murderers of abortion doctors first and then went after the Muslim extremists? Or is it that you just don't want them going after Muslim extremists at all because you know deep down that they are complete batshit crazy and will act like animals when they get the spotlight put on them?

I have no problem going after each groups extremists. Just do it. We shouldn't NOT do it because we are afraid of how the group will behave when they get looked at.
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Wow, McCarthyism to the max. Why even bother, why don't you just arrest everyone on the off chance you get lucky and get that 1/2 percent?

I think demonizing ANY group for the actions of a VERY small minority is ridiculous. But I guess you are OK with it. Bigotry FTL.
 
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Islamic religion?"
"Donch you hab n ounce of decency? Tank you, com agin!"

yeah yeah, i know.
 
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