Hearing with our eyes

[Powermoloch]

:thumbsup:

 

[lxskllr]

Half my job is taking advantage of this.

Con artist? Shell game specialist?

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

I'm confused

he starts out saying baah baah baah. does he later change to phaah phaah phaah?

both sounds sound really similar to me even when I close my eyes.

Same here, didnt get the point of the video at all... Even though he does a different mouth motion, the sound is nearly the same, whether you are watching it or not

Wasnt the whole point that our eyes take over our hearing? If so it shouldnt work with your eyes closed, but it still sounds the same

Watching it again its more like he goes from "Bah" to "Vah", which follows the motion of his mouth too...

 

[Squisher]

Same here, didnt get the point of the video at all... Even though he does a different mouth motion, the sound is nearly the same, whether you are watching it or not

Wasnt the whole point that our eyes take over our hearing? If so it shouldnt work with your eyes closed, but it still sounds the same

Watching it again its more like he goes from "Bah" to "Vah", which follows the motion of his mouth too...

It's not nearly the same it is the same, the only sound made is baa baa baa, but when you see someone curl their lower lip under to make the "f" sound your brain assigns the "f" sound at the beginning and you hear faa faa faa.

 

[rcpratt]

You guys that aren't getting this are fucking retarded.

 

[edro]

You guys that aren't getting this are fucking retarded.

I think it's just one guy.

 

[rcpratt]

I think it's just one guy.

Two.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Mfl

 

[Squisher]

You guys that aren't getting this are ba-ba-bucking retarded.

fixed

 

[Ruptga]

If you think about how we're able to have a conversation in a really noisy room with hundreds of other people chattering, it's quite amazing. McGurk effect shows just how adapted our brains are to being able to comprehend speech.

:hmm: Dammit, I think you have a point.

 

[Udgnim]

You guys that aren't getting this are fucking retarded.

honestly, I think the reason why the effect was not very noticeable to me was due to me being pretty introverted and/or I wasn't staring at his lips.

from the video, the McGurk Effect is basically the eyes reading the person's lips and creating an association with that sight, combine that with what is actually heard and the brain produces an alternate sound from what is actually being produced audibly.

I didn't really notice that his lip movements changed until during a second viewing, and even after that, the effect was very hard for me to notice.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

honestly, I think the reason why the effect was not very noticeable to me was due to me being pretty introverted and/or I wasn't staring at his lips.

from the video, the McGurk Effect is basically the eyes reading the person's lips and creating an association with that sight, combine that with what is actually heard and the brain produces an alternate sound from what is actually being produced audibly.

I didn't really notice that his lip movements changed until during a second viewing, and even after that, the effect was very hard for me to notice.

Some of what you typed causes me to wonder if you may have a undiagnosed autism spectrum disorder.

 

[hans030390]

Eyes closed or not, I found it pretty easy to distinguish between "bah" and "fah".

 

[WelshBloke]

Eyes closed or not, I found it pretty easy to distinguish between "bah" and "fah".

The point is, there is no "fah" noise. Its the same audio track dubbed over both mouth movements. Your brain changes what you hear depending what you see.

 

[zinfamous]

But why would we need that kind of error correcting? It still sounds like a bug to me.

If you think about how we're able to have a conversation in a really noisy room with hundreds of other people chattering, it's quite amazing. McGurk effect shows just how adapted our brains are to being able to comprehend speech.

this. I don't see it as an error so much as adapting to the most reasonable response.

would like to see this in other languages, very remote ones, at that.

particularly Papua New Guinea, one of the few places on this earth with a language/communication model that is completely separate from western & eastern models. Completely ancient branches....that should really get to what the brain thinks about this effect.

 

[zinfamous]

honestly, I think the reason why the effect was not very noticeable to me was due to me being pretty introverted and/or I wasn't staring at his lips.

from the video, the McGurk Effect is basically the eyes reading the person's lips and creating an association with that sight, combine that with what is actually heard and the brain produces an alternate sound from what is actually being produced audibly.

I didn't really notice that his lip movements changed until during a second viewing, and even after that, the effect was very hard for me to notice.

do you have some sort of autism or one of those face-recognition disorders, perhaps?

 

[zinfamous]

Some of what you typed causes me to wonder if you may have a undiagnosed autism spectrum disorder.

yeah, this.

I'm thinking he should look up Oliver Sacks.....

 

[zinfamous]

Eyes closed or not, I found it pretty easy to distinguish between "bah" and "fah".

/facepalm

well, this one, I don't even.

 

[Squisher]

/facepalm

well, this one, I don't even.

lol, and to think I ruminate over all the brain cells I've killed over the years.

 

[Malak]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but maybe hans is saying the intended effect did not occur. I didn't understand the point at first either, because regardless of his lip movement I could tell it was the same soundtrack. The first thing that popped in my head was, "I'm being tricked."

 

[bunnyfubbles]

And some people still think our brains were designed

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but maybe hans is saying the intended effect did not occur. I didn't understand the point at first either, because regardless of his lip movement I could tell it was the same soundtrack. The first thing that popped in my head was, "I'm being tricked."

If that popped in your head then the effect worked. If the effect didn't work you'd be asking what was supposed to happen, not posting about how you knew you were being tricked.

Hans is either trolling or just self implicated himself trying to be awesome. By claiming he could hear a different sound with his eyes closed when its the same track no matter what means he's full of shit.

 

[mb]

http://www.wimp.com/mcgurkeffect/

I just stumbled on this with SU... friggin crazy!