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Health insurance plan choices...

TridenT

Lifer
I won't be paying for the health plan as work pays enough to where I can select a decent enough plan for my cost to be $0.

Anyway, I'm down to two decisions. Kaiser HMO 20 CA North and BS-CA PPO 700 CA North. One is an HMO plan through Kaiser and the other is a PPO plan through Blue Shield. Both are for in the bay area. Anyway, which would you go with? The HMO basically says as long as I go to their hospitals and care, I won't pay almost anything on anything. The PPO clearly states that I can use their in-network providers, have a $700 deductible, and they'll cover 80% in-network. Out of network, it's $700. The maximum out-of-pocket is $3,300. However, things are fuzzy and it's not totally clear how the plan will work for everything. Kaiser HMO is $1,500 out of pocket maximum and no deductible.

What do you think? I'm 24 and relatively healthy/problem-free. The biggest issue will be emergency room care and new illness. Kaiser says "The plan covers emergency care for life-threatening injury or illness in a hospital emergency room at 100% after a $100 copay regardless of which hospital you use or whether you have approval from your Primary Care Physician (PCP).". Blue shield says "The plan covers emergency care for life-threatening injury or illness in a hospital emergency room at 80% of the in-network and out-of-network benefit level after the deductible, regardless of which hospital you use." Which seems worse than Kaiser.

It seems the Kaiser HMO plan is better in terms of cost. It won't be the most convenient in some regards (as I'll need approval from a PCP for specialty stuff) but maybe that won't be a big deal anyway?
 
HMO's got a bad rap 10-15 years ago and for good reason. Now, not so much. Most major health systems have gone out and bought all the specialty practices and own all the prompt cares and ambulatory clinics that you would normally need access to. It's pretty much a one stop shop especially for something the size of Kaiser. Most everything you'll need will be in network.
 
Some specialists want a PCP referral regardless if your insurance wants one. I'd go with the HMO but check out their network in more detail first.
 
Whatever. I'm going with Kaiser HMO. It has over 30 hospitals here in the bay area. It's going to cover almost everything and there will be very small co-pays for things. It'll just cost less and I doubt any care I need will be difficult to obtain. But who knows. EXPERIENCE
 
Whatever. I'm going with Kaiser HMO. It has over 30 hospitals here in the bay area. It's going to cover almost everything and there will be very small co-pays for things. It'll just cost less and I doubt any care I need will be difficult to obtain. But who knows. EXPERIENCE

That's a terrible choice. 🙂

RIP Triden T.
 
I loved my experience with KP and for a healthy young individual, it's great. computerized everything, minimal waits, 1 stop shop.
 
Is it more expensive than a PPO?

monthly premiums higher for Kaiser vs BCBS but overall cost way cheaper - but that might be specific to my plan. KP was $15-$20 co-pay, BCBS is 20% co-pay.

But my wife has medical issues and the KP docs weren't cutting it, so PPO it is for me.
 
IME, Kaiser's EMR system and general efficiency blows all others out of the water. You may not get the absolute best specialists or have in-network access to quite as many facilities, but for most people, especially healthy people, they're fine. They still have to cover ERs, and that's the biggest issue for young/healthy folks. If you had to be admitted from an ER, they can transfer you to a Kaiser facility after you're stabilized.
 
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monthly premiums higher for Kaiser vs BCBS but overall cost way cheaper - but that might be specific to my plan. KP was $15-$20 co-pay, BCBS is 20% co-pay.

But my wife has medical issues and the KP docs weren't cutting it, so PPO it is for me.

BS was more but it was still covered completely because of my employer. Admittedly, if I wanted to get a BS 250 plan (versus the 700) I would have to pay about $125 more a month. The best Kaiser plan offered (20 north ca) was still cheaper than the BS 700 plan. The BS 700 plan was about $190 and the Kaiser HMO 20 was about $163, I think. This was per pay period I think, so maybe that's $326 vs $380 a month? Who knows.
 
Kaiser is great for the young and healthy. youre not going to get James Andrews or Charles Debakey overseeing your care, but hopefully you wont need them.
 
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