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"...", he said.

Crono

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darkxshade voiced his opinion on ATOT this morning. "Some news articles uses this too much", he said. He continued his thread on this topic.
"To a point that it's becoming distracting", he said.

I see your point.
 

shocksyde

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I can't really take your rant seriously when your subtitle has poor grammar.
 

nakedfrog

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"Hm, I was more expecting this to be about ellipsis over-usage," thought nakedfrog, "but this appears to be about a different issue."
 

Crono

Lifer
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Originally posted by: polarmystery
Doesn't the comma go before the double-quotation in a statement?

It does. I always forget, because it makes more sense to me that unless a person is speaking punctuation, the quote should include only what the person said.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

:thumbsup: Absolutely right, mugs. You hit that one out of the park! ;)
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

Maybe try writing an article instead of just quoting or paraphrasing what someone said on every paragraph? You're right about the limited ways to work a quote in but that's pretty much all he did.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

:thumbsup: Absolutely right, mugs. You hit that one out of the park! ;)

So you're saying I hit a big fly, a blast, a bomb, a circuit clout, a dinger, a ding-dong, a dong, a four-bagger, a four-base knock, a funk blast ( :confused: ), a goner, a gopher ball, a homer, a jack, a long ball, a moonshot, a quadruple, a round-tripper, a shot, a slam, a swat, a tape-measure shot, a tater, or a wallop? (All shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia.)
 

amdhunter

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

:thumbsup: Absolutely right, mugs. You hit that one out of the park! ;)

So you're saying I hit a big fly, a blast, a bomb, a circuit clout, a dinger, a ding-dong, a dong, a four-bagger, a four-base knock, a funk blast ( :confused: ), a goner, a gopher ball, a homer, a jack, a long ball, a moonshot, a quadruple, a round-tripper, a shot, a slam, a swat, a tape-measure shot, a tater, or a wallop? (All shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia.)

"So you're saying I hit a big fly..." mugs said.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

:thumbsup: Absolutely right, mugs. You hit that one out of the park! ;)

So you're saying I hit a big fly, a blast, a bomb, a circuit clout, a dinger, a ding-dong, a dong, a four-bagger, a four-base knock, a funk blast ( :confused: ), a goner, a gopher ball, a homer, a jack, a long ball, a moonshot, a quadruple, a round-tripper, a shot, a slam, a swat, a tape-measure shot, a tater, or a wallop? (All shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia.)

Actually, I was trying to say you "went yard".
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
To a point that it's becoming distracting.


Case in point:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/1...postversion=2009031010


Discuss

There are only so many ways you can work a quote into a sentence. I think trying to get too creative with it would be equally distracting. Ever notice how people who write about sports use all sorts of absurd slang to avoid repeating themselves? And then Joe Six Pack starts to pick up on all that slang and starts to write like a wannabe sportswriter. And then they start editing that crap into Wikipedia pages. That annoys me.

:thumbsup: Absolutely right, mugs. You hit that one out of the park! ;)

So you're saying I hit a big fly, a blast, a bomb, a circuit clout, a dinger, a ding-dong, a dong, a four-bagger, a four-base knock, a funk blast ( :confused: ), a goner, a gopher ball, a homer, a jack, a long ball, a moonshot, a quadruple, a round-tripper, a shot, a slam, a swat, a tape-measure shot, a tater, or a wallop? (All shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia.)

Actually, I was trying to say you "went yard".

At least I didn't hit it into next week, because that would wreak havoc on the space-time continuum.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
"Hm, I was more expecting this to be about ellipsis over-usage," thought nakedfrog, "but this appears to be about a different issue."

i dont get it... people on the internet... when they type... its like some of them cant even form complete sentences... i mean... can you at least try to use punctuation other than hitting the period key three times... thats not even an ellipsis... seriously...
 

AnonymouseUser

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Here, I fixed it for you. All of my corrections are in bold.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke - he said Tuesday that economic recovery hinges on hstabilizing the financial system, and he said he proposed new policies aimed at absorbing financial shocks in the future, he said.

"Until we stabilize the financial system, a sustainable economic recovery will remain out of reach," he said in prepared remarks.

If the financial system is put back in order" he said, "the U.S. economy could work its way out of recession "later this year" and experience "a period of growth" next year, Bernanke said he said.

"In the near term" he said, "governments around the world must continue to take forceful, and when appropriate, coordinated actions" he said, "to restore financial market functioning and the flow of credit," he said.

As the Fed chairman, he said steps should be taken to address problems tied to financial institutions deemed too big to fail. These large, interconnected financial firms pose a "systemic risk" to economic stability, he said.

"In the present crisis" he said, "the too-big-to-fail issue has emerged as an enormous problem," he said.

Bernanke - he said allowing firms to become too big to fail reduces market discipline and encourages excessive risk-taking. Moreover, he said government rescues of firms that are too big to fail can be costly to the taxpayer, he said.

Speaking in Washington to the Council on Foreign Relations, Bernanke said he said regulators need new tools to respond to the failure of a "systemically important nonbank financial firm." Federal bankruptcy laws are not sufficient to protect the public's interest when a major nonbank financial firm fails, he said.

The comments came one week after he said the Treasury Department restructured its bailout of insurance giant American International Group (AIG, Fortune 500) and gave the company another $30 billion infusion, so he said.

Bernanke also said he said regulators should strengthen the nation's "financial infrastructure" to make it more secure in the event of another crisis. So he said.

Among other things, he said the Fed and other regulators will continue to work toward establishing "stringent targets" and "performance standards" for market participants, he said.

To that end, he said, the government should work with the private sector to improve the way certain exotic derivatives, such as credit default swaps, are cleared from the market.

Bernanke also said he said that more steps should be taken to support the credit and mutual fund markets. He said the Fed has emergency programs in place to increase liquidity in these markets. Additionally, he said, certain accounting rules and other regulations have made the financial sector excessively "procyclical" or sensitive to economic booms and busts.

To assess threats to the broader economy, Bernanke said he proposed that Congress create a "systemic risk authority." The authority could oversee, he said, among other things, standards for capital, liquidity, and risk-management practices for the financial sector, he said.
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Here, I fixed it for you. All of my corrections are in bold.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke - he said Tuesday that economic recovery hinges on hstabilizing the financial system, and he said he proposed new policies aimed at absorbing financial shocks in the future, he said.

"Until we stabilize the financial system, a sustainable economic recovery will remain out of reach," he said in prepared remarks.

If the financial system is put back in order" he said, "the U.S. economy could work its way out of recession "later this year" and experience "a period of growth" next year, Bernanke said he said.

"In the near term" he said, "governments around the world must continue to take forceful, and when appropriate, coordinated actions" he said, "to restore financial market functioning and the flow of credit," he said.

As the Fed chairman, he said steps should be taken to address problems tied to financial institutions deemed too big to fail. These large, interconnected financial firms pose a "systemic risk" to economic stability, he said.

"In the present crisis" he said, "the too-big-to-fail issue has emerged as an enormous problem," he said.

Bernanke - he said allowing firms to become too big to fail reduces market discipline and encourages excessive risk-taking. Moreover, he said government rescues of firms that are too big to fail can be costly to the taxpayer, he said.

Speaking in Washington to the Council on Foreign Relations, Bernanke said he said regulators need new tools to respond to the failure of a "systemically important nonbank financial firm." Federal bankruptcy laws are not sufficient to protect the public's interest when a major nonbank financial firm fails, he said.

The comments came one week after he said the Treasury Department restructured its bailout of insurance giant American International Group (AIG, Fortune 500) and gave the company another $30 billion infusion, so he said.

Bernanke also said he said regulators should strengthen the nation's "financial infrastructure" to make it more secure in the event of another crisis. So he said.

Among other things, he said the Fed and other regulators will continue to work toward establishing "stringent targets" and "performance standards" for market participants, he said.

To that end, he said, the government should work with the private sector to improve the way certain exotic derivatives, such as credit default swaps, are cleared from the market.

Bernanke also said he said that more steps should be taken to support the credit and mutual fund markets. He said the Fed has emergency programs in place to increase liquidity in these markets. Additionally, he said, certain accounting rules and other regulations have made the financial sector excessively "procyclical" or sensitive to economic booms and busts.

To assess threats to the broader economy, Bernanke said he proposed that Congress create a "systemic risk authority." The authority could oversee, he said, among other things, standards for capital, liquidity, and risk-management practices for the financial sector, he said.

"What a helpful fellow," said Page. "This AnonymousUser will be the first to suffer my wrath when the day comes."

They use "said" as opposed to any other verb in non-editorial articles because it's neutral.
 

nerp

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If you're writing for publication and fail to attribute quotes properly, it will get added for you. In articles with more than one person being quoted, it is essential to spell out the last name of the person to avoid confusion. Accuracy, brevity and clarity trump style. This is not a novel or short story. It's a business article. Bad writers worry about style over intent. Good writers know how to write for their medium and audience.

If this were a feature, I'd expect better weaving of quotes. But it's not.