BoberFett
Lifer
- Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
:Q
Makes a 5 dolla pack o Trojans seem like the best investment you could have ever made eh
Better yet I think every man, in their own interest, should make several deposits at the local sperm bank when they're about 15. Then get yourself snipped. If you ever want kids just make a withdrawal and get out the turkey baster. That's the ultimate in planned pregnancy.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Originally posted by: MichaelD
A side note:
His original comment about buying power tools could be misinterpreted.
But only by the ignorant (don't misunderstand my usage of the word, please), or unexperienced (or should I say "uninitiated?")
Unless you've been in his shoes, you've got no room to talk. You have no idea what it feels like to pay your child support, try your best to see the kid, go thru the courts, do EVERYTHING the right and legal way and have it all blow up your face. To have to hire a lawyer out of your own pocket to got back to court to get VISITATION THE COURT ORDERED in the first place, enforced is a travesty, a shame and a downright sh!tty thing to have to endure.
Pliable has raised his daughter right. She's not wanting for material possessions, love or affection despite her MOTHER'S every attempt to mess up her head and her relationship with her father.
Kudos to you, PliableMoose. Buy a hammer and give it your EXs name; every time you bang the crap out of something you can pretend it's her face you're using. :beer:
ps
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty Politically Correct today.
One point that many of you are missing is this,when you denigrate your child's other parent what you are doing is called "parental alienation",the child deserves the right to form an opinion of both of their parents based on THEIR experience of them,not the bitter rantings of a custodial parent.The other,far more damaging thing you are doing is hurting the child,half of what constitutes your child comes from their other parent,when you name call or denigrate the other parent what you are telling your kid that they are at baseline no good,bad,evil etc.
Btw,this is the opinion of a mother who raised her children with very little in terms of support either practical or fiscal from my ex-husband.As hard as it was/is it doesn't give me the right to cause my children to think less of him or themselves after all it was I not they who showed such poor taste in mate selection.
Squisher
Lifer
- Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MichaelD
A side note:
His original comment about buying power tools could be misinterpreted.
But only by the ignorant (don't misunderstand my usage of the word, please), or unexperienced (or should I say "uninitiated?")
Unless you've been in his shoes, you've got no room to talk. You have no idea what it feels like to pay your child support, try your best to see the kid, go thru the courts, do EVERYTHING the right and legal way and have it all blow up your face. To have to hire a lawyer out of your own pocket to got back to court to get VISITATION THE COURT ORDERED in the first place, enforced is a travesty, a shame and a downright sh!tty thing to have to endure.
Pliable has raised his daughter right. She's not wanting for material possessions, love or affection despite her MOTHER'S every attempt to mess up her head and her relationship with her father.
Kudos to you, PliableMoose. Buy a hammer and give it your EXs name; every time you bang the crap out of something you can pretend it's her face you're using. :beer:
ps
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty Politically Correct today.
One point that many of you are missing is this,when you denigrate your child's other parent what you are doing is called "parental alienation",the child deserves the right to form an opinion of both of their parents based on THEIR experience of them,not the bitter rantings of a custodial parent.The other,far more damaging thing you are doing is hurting the child,half of what constitutes your child comes from their other parent,when you name call or denigrate the other parent what you are telling your kid that they are at baseline no good,bad,evil etc.
Btw,this is the opinion of a mother who raised her children with very little in terms of support either practical or fiscal from my ex-husband.As hard as it was/is it doesn't give me the right to cause my children to think less of him or themselves after all it was I not they who showed such poor taste in mate selection.
Hence, the post earlier by Pliablemoose:
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Daughter #1 After she won the Social Studies & Choir Student of the Semester award last week
Another year or so & I might let her post on AT...
(I'll have to quit posting threads about her mom first though)
- Oct 11, 1999
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Damn, everyone saw right through my plan to build hookers with a band saw, drill press & bench grinder.
Was planning on using the tools to build some furniture & help with remodeling.
Was planning on using the tools to build some furniture & help with remodeling.
Hmmm... Better than showing up at her arrest with power tools...
A sign that said "I spent your child support payment on hookers and drugs!"
Everybody, PliableMoose obviously takes care of his daughter and she is absolutely NOT wanting for anything. So when a miserable $1000 is finally paid, that doesn't even put a dent in the money that is spent on the kid.
When my wife and I were separated, I paid $300 a month because that's what we agreed on. But I still bought clothes, paid her truck payment, paid for all his school stuff, etc, just because it costs a lot more than $300 a month to raise a kid.
I don't begrudge PM a dime of that money. Let him spend it on hookers and drugs if he wants! As long as the child isn't being starved or anything...
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
My father ..and I was raised by a mother who would frequently rant about how no good he was and how I was just like him.Words can hurt worse than fists.
Yeah,rearing a kid alone can get tough but you need to to confine your rants sessions to a trusted friend and not involve your kids and you need to remember that focusing on such bitter thoughts can and does spill over into your life and your kids bear the brunt of it.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Originally posted by: Amorphus
true. parents who emotionally abuse their children should not rear children.
most parents are well meaning,they want better for their kids than they had.My mother did the best she could with the resources to cope that she had available.I've forgiven her but we'll never be close.I tried to spare my kids that particular brand of misery.
My point is that denigrating and bashing your kid's other parent isn't healthy,not for you and not for your kids.
Why is that some women tend to gravitate towards abusive men?
If you had a father that was absent, one would think that you would chose a husband that was contrary, not similar.
If you had a father that was absent, one would think that you would chose a husband that was contrary, not similar.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Nobody said or even hinted that my ex husband was abusive Riprorin.What I acknowledge was taking responsibilty for my poor choice in a husband while trying to not negatively influence our children's view of him.
I agree with you that you shouldn't bad mouth a child's parent. That's just immature and selfish.
It seems to me that neglecting your children emotionally is a form of abuse, but maybe I'm stretching the defintion.
Hey, we've all made bad decisions. I know that I've made my share.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
My point is this,when you decide to have a child, you've commited yourself to providing for 100% of that child's needs, while it's nice if the other parent pitches in and spilts that load,there's no such thing
as only putting in your 50% and no more if they don't come thru,such is the obligation of custody,you don't like it? you can't do it without extracting a price by heaping your bitterness on everyone within earshot or scarring your child emotionally? fine then put the child up for adoption.
PM, if your daughter is well taken care of, why not leave all the stress and hassle of dealing with your ex and piddly payments and crap like that? Seems sort of childish to go to all that effort for money that you don't really need and will probably cause more stress (Christmas visits, ulterior motive, etc). Wouldn't it be better to try to close an obviously disinterested parent out of your kid's life? Just my opinion.
- Oct 11, 1999
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Couldn't let this one go by without a response.
My ex is the devil incarnate & attempted to kidnap our child 2X after she moved to the UK:
Little things like:
Showing up in the states, calling @ the regular time, asking a 9 year old what time school gets out tomorrow while still in posession of the child's passport. Heard the child's end of the conversation & looked @ the caller ID to determine it was a local, not an overseas call.
Sending a friend of our child's & her mom over to ask if she could do an overnight (unannounced from 30 miles away) I wouldnt let her go, then get a call from my lawyer the next day, asking me if I knew my ex was in the states. Then 2 years later, looking @ pictures from the UK, we notice my ex's older son in a picture and asked how he got to the UK, turns out they had an extra ticket & let him use it.
Being hauled up in front of a judge on 13 seperate counts of contempt, all bogus and having them all dismissed.
Being forced to ask the courts, State Dept, The Home Office in the UK to: Force the ex to surrender the passport or go to jail, put our daughter on a "Do Not Issue a replacement Passport list", and have the UK agree to not issue a passport for the child if the mother requested one.
Spending thousands of dollars every freaking time I have to go to court (the equivalent of a college education 2X over) Because I'm drug back into court for some BS.
She'd pay child support in British Pounds by check so I couldn't cash the freaking check without a 45 minute wait for the bank to ensure what the exchange rate was & make sure it didn't bounce.
I've offered the bitch everything & sat with the judge this year negotiating a visitation schedule that would allow the child contact with our daughter, yet protect the child @ the same time. We had to put in a limit to calling the child @ school, cause she'd call the child @ school, have her pulled out of class into the guidance counsellor's office after she lied to the woman & said she had no contact with the child by phone for months, and feed the child full of BS.
She currently has unlimited phone access to the child, but refuses to call her on a cell phone when we're not @ home, because it's "inconvenient" for her.
I've called for 2 days trying to tell her our child was sick & I had to take her to the Dr. (I am obligated to do so by the court) to only be hung up on 10 freaking times after they (she or her new husband scream @ me).
My insurance co pay is $15, regular mail is ignored, registered mail costs $9, so even if the bitch pays 50% of the co-pay, I lose $ to even ask her to pay what she owes. Christ almighty, it could be as simple as a free email to keep things straight.
I've offered to forgo child support, and been told to go to hell, so frankly, I use it as leverage to keep the bitch in line.
I've come to court with a stack of returned registered letters with bills in them and had her deny refusing them.
I've been stuck in an unbelievably stressful situation for years, and respectfully retain the right to protect myself & my child with any legal means necessary.
Rant mode off...
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