He got his start pulling wings off flies..

[Viper1j]

Then moved on up to torturing small woodland creatures..

Now he's America's real life Hannibal Lector! He lives to hurt!

Can you think of a worse time to do something like this?

My kid brother is a US Marshall , I just got off the phone with him.. He's going on a cruise in the morning, because he refuses to work for free.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/29/politics/trump-executive-order-federal-workers-pay-freeze/index.html

Trump issues executive order freezing federal workers' pay in 2019


President Donald Trump issued an executive order Friday freezing federal workers' pay for 2019, following through on a proposal he announced earlier in the year.

The move, which nixes a 2.1% across-the-board pay raise that was set to take effect in January, comes as hundreds of thousands of federal employees are expecting to begin the new year furloughed or working without pay because of a partial government shutdown.
Trump told lawmakers he planned to scrap the 2019 pay bump for federal workers in August, saying the federal budget couldn't support it. In addition to the 2.1% pay increase, the executive order also cancels a yearly adjustment of paychecks based on the region of the country where workers are posted, called the "locality pay increase," that was due to take effect in January.

The move does not affect a 2.6% pay increase for US troops next year that was passed as part of the massive defense spending bill Trump signed in August. Lawmakers could include a pay raise for 2019 in a spending bill to reopen the government, but negotiations have been at an impasse over money for Trump's border wall.

About 380,000 federal employees are on furlough and 420,000 are working without pay as the new year approaches.
In a letter to House and Senate leaders in August, Trump described the pay increase as "inappropriate."
"We must maintain efforts to put our Nation on a fiscally sustainable course, and Federal agency budgets cannot sustain such increases," the President wrote.

Trump also stressed that a pay freeze would not affect the federal government's ability to attract qualified workers. He cited his statutory authority to adjust pay out of "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare."

 

[Commodus]

I love how he claims that he has to cut pay for government staff because it's not fiscally sustainable, but soldiers? No problem!

The upside: I don't think Trump realizes that plenty of these government workers can vote (as can their families), and these people won't sympathize with him when they go to the ballot box.

 

[balloonshark]

Steal from the poor so the rich can get richer via tax cuts. SOP for the republicans.

 

[Moonbeam]

Asside from impeachment or the 25th there is no way our democracy can save us from this prick. Who would have thought there would be enough human garbage in power to keep a shithead in the office of the presidency. How fucking asleep can America be. I seem to recall a time when Americans had pride in our traditions. Now we worship a guy who shits all over them.

 

[Thebobo]

in 9th grade we pulled the wings off a Flfy and gave it to my biology teacher as new species, a walk. She changed the name to a hop.

 

[Viper1j]

in 9th grade we pulled the wings off a Flfy and gave it to my biology teacher as new species, a walk. She changed the name to a hop.

Remember a movie called Faces Of Death?
It was the original snuff film.

Dollars to doughnuts Trump whacks off to it every night. For him, it's better than porn.

 

[Paratus]

So not only are my wife and I both furloughed and our investments down but he’ll cut our raises for the year. That’s a god damn hat trick.

It’s so enjoyable being held hostage.

 

[Viper1j]

So not only are my wife and I both furloughed and our investments down but he’ll cut our raises for the year. That’s a god damn hat trick.

It’s so enjoyable being held hostage.

He's praying for you to catch Stockholm syndrome.

 

[dank69]

I love hoe he claims that he has to cut pay for government staff because it's not fiscally sustainable, but soldiers? No problem!

The upside: I don't think Trump realizes that plenty of these government workers can vote (as can their families), and these people won't sympathize with him when they go to the ballot box.

Yeah well half of them still won't vote for a filthy liberal so I wouldn't count on that upside too much.

 

[Lanyap]

...
Trump issues executive order freezing federal workers' pay in 2019
...
saying the federal budget couldn't support it.
...

We need that wall dammit!

 

[trenchfoot]

Keep the peasants under heel or they will revolt and usurp the god-given claims of the aristocracy. Let them know who controls the purse strings, the guillotine and the swords. Give themselves the wealth off the backs of the serfs as they are whipped and chained into infinite servitude. Oh, and let them eat cake.

And this is what Trump's supporters had in mind when they chose one of the most if THE most selfish, greed driven, chronically lying unindicted co-conspiratorial childish spoiled brat of a man as their leader?

And he still has a +40 approval rating because he's so good at stabbing his followers in the back, neck and temple as they kneel at his feet and praise him for making good on all of those promises he's not made good on?

Hell yeah, all is well in the land of the free and the home of the brave with Trump at the wheel. Riiiiiiiiigggghht.

 

[VRAMdemon]

He cited his statutory authority to adjust pay out of "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare."

I thought his economy was booming?..I guess not

The economy is booming and it is terrible. The stock market is up, up up, because of me, me, me, and it is also down because of the Fed.

The big beautiful wall is being built, and the evil democrats are stopping it from being built.

Hordes of illegals are streaming over the border, and the illegals are being kept out by the big beautiful wall.

Mueller has nothing, and he has everything. Micheal Cohen is my lawyer and he is rat.

More of him spewing out contradictory shit constantly, so the Trump faithful can latch onto whatever they like. They do not see the contradictions - they only see what they want to see. And Trump knows this. Someone should just tell Trump that Obama once jumped over a pit of crocodiles. "Here, hold my Big Mac"

Trump also doesn't know the meaning of the word "work". To him a "worker" is someone who did things and then got stiffed when the bill was due.

 

[Brainonska511]

So not only are my wife and I both furloughed and our investments down but he’ll cut our raises for the year. That’s a god damn hat trick.

It’s so enjoyable being held hostage.

But you can do chores for your credit card company until you get paid again.

 

[HomerJS]

Meanwhile this asshole can piss away money for the so called voter fraud commission, while ignoring the real voter fraud committed by Republicans.

 

[SlowSpyder]

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/us/politics/30freeze.html

Obama did this too in 2010, and he won easily in 2012 (and Obama did it for two years). You guys live in a bubble.

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/us/politics/30freeze.html

Obama did this too in 2010, and he won easily in 2012 (and Obama did it for two years). You guys live in a bubble.

I wonder if the pay freeze in the middle of recovering from a massive economic crisis would be viewed differently than saying we can’t afford federal raises after giving a trillion and a half dollars to rich people.

If America’s fiscal condition was so dire that we can’t give federal workers raises at the rate of inflation then we can hardly afford huge debt financed tax cuts.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I wonder if the pay freeze in the middle of recovering from a massive economic crisis would be viewed differently than saying we can’t afford federal raises after giving a trillion and a half dollars to rich people.

If America’s fiscal condition was so dire that we can’t give federal workers raises at the rate of inflation then we can hardly afford huge debt financed tax cuts.

Basically to you Obama did it so its fine, Trump did it so its something to whine about. We're in the middle of a trade war with a partial government shutdown in place, with a Republican president standing his ground and an incoming Democrat congress. No relief to the situation is likely in the immediate future. Trump has reason, just like Obama. This is a big nothing burger, but that won't stop members of AT P&N from starting a circle jerk about how evil Trump is.

 

[fskimospy]

Basically to you Obama did it so its fine, Trump did it so its something to whine about. We're in the middle of a trade war with a partial government shutdown in place, with a Republican president standing his ground and an incoming Democrat congress. No relief to the situation is likely in the immediate future. Trump has reason, just like Obama. This is a big nothing burger, but that won't stop members of AT P&N from starting a circle jerk about how evil Trump is.

Trump caused all of those things, haha. He also said he was going to cancel these raises long before the shutdown. Your argument is basically ‘Trump has good reason not to give raises, just look at all the crises he caused!’

It’s simple, Trump says we can afford to give a trillion and a half dollars to rich people but says we can’t afford cost of living increases for regular workers. If the budget is really so tight then he should have given less money to rich people.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Trump caused all of those things, haha. He also said he was going to cancel these raises long before the shutdown. Your argument is basically ‘Trump has good reason not to give raises, just look at all the crises he caused!’

It’s simple, Trump says we can afford to give a trillion and a half dollars to rich people but says we can’t afford cost of living increases for regular workers. If the budget is really so tight then he should have given less money to rich people.

We need the trade deal, there is a long game in place and we're still doing fine in the mean time. An under performing DOW isn't the end of the world given the overall strength of our Trump economy. The trade war is just a tipping point for something that was put in motion long before Trump was in office. The government shutdown? Same thing. The Democrats are willing to live with the shut down over $5 billion.

 

[fskimospy]

We need the trade deal, there is a long game in place and we're still doing fine in the mean time. An under performing DOW isn't the end of the world given the overall strength of our Trump economy. The trade war is just a tipping point for something that was put in motion long before Trump was in office.

You aren’t addressing my post. Why does the budget have room for a trillion and a half in tax cuts for rich people but no room for cost of living increases for regular people?

The government shutdown? Same thing. The Democrats are willing to live with the shut down over $5 billion.

Trump caused the shutdown, he said so on national television. This is 100% on him, as per his own words.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Let's not lose site of what's important to remember here, on AT P&N. An that is:

Obama freezes federal worker pay for two years, that's fine due to reasons.

Trump freezes federal worker pay for a year, he pulls wings off of flies for fun.


And you guys touch yourselves while talking about how open minded and logic-driven you are.

 

[fskimospy]

Today I learned that freezing pay during the recovery from a massive, global economic crisis is the same as freezing pay during what Spidey claims is a roaring economy.

Why does the budget have a trillion and a half dollars for tax cuts for rich people and no money for cost of living increases?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Today I learned that freezing pay during the recovery from a massive, global economic crisis is the same as freezing pay during what Spidey claims is a roaring economy.

Why does the budget have a trillion and a half dollars for tax cuts for rich people and no money for cost of living increases?

Blah blah blah. Last time you guys went on about cost of living and "the rich" I saw a nice chunk more money in my pocket, and I am decidedly middle class. You've used up your credibility, now whenever I hear you whining about Trump and money I know you're crying wolf again. Listening to some Young Turks explanation predigested for you, heavy in emotion, light in facts.

Again, Trump freezes pay for a year, he pulls wings off flies.

Obama freezes worker pay for two years? When will his portrait be on our currency?

AT P&N for ya.

 

[Jhhnn]

Today I learned that freezing pay during the recovery from a massive, global economic crisis is the same as freezing pay during what Spidey claims is a roaring economy.

Why does the budget have a trillion and a half dollars for tax cuts for rich people and no money for cost of living increases?

Because it will all trickle down? It's not like that ever happened but it does sound good...

The GOP was calling for layoffs at the time, iirc...

 

[fskimospy]

Blah blah blah. Last time you guys went on about cost of living and "the rich" I saw a nice chunk more money in my pocket, and I am decidedly middle class. You've used up your credibility, now whenever I hear you whining about Trump and money I know you're crying wolf again.

The tax cuts were overwhelmingly for the rich and in fact represent a long term tax INCREASE for much of the middle class. This is simply a fact.

So again, why does the budget have room for tax cuts for rich people and not cost of living increases? Why can’t you answer such a simple question?

Listening to some Young Turks explanation predigested for you, heavy in emotion, light in facts.

Haha, you are one of the most emotional and least fact based posters this board has ever seen. I wish you would learn something from me and try to incorporate facts into your posts instead of just relying on your feelings.

Again, Trump freezes pay for a year, he pulls wings off flies.

Obama freezes worker pay for two years? When will his portrait be on our currency?

AT P&N for ya.

This is a cousin to the same ‘why didn’t you complain about deficits under Obama?’ argument. It is in manifestly bad faith.