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JeffCos

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ok, i'm gonna have to correct myself cause i just looked at your diagram again and read the last post. With my TV all nonHD broadcasts are full screen. CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC are shrunk (2in border all the way aroudn) unless it's a sporting event then it's in widescreen and i only have borders on top. But I can zoom anything i want and make it all full screen.
 

GoSharks

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Originally posted by: Anubis
so why do the other HD channels display full screen?

if you really do have a 4:3 tv, HD should NOT be displayed full screen. you should have bars on top and bottom for HD.

 

Rage187

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Heres what fixed it on my system.

Turn off the HD/Cable box.

Hit menu on the cable box or remote.

Even though the box is technically off a menu will appear.

In this menu should be some settings, I forget specifically but one wil stretch non-hd content to 16:9 and it looks great.



Hope this helps, BTW my cable/HD box is a Motorolla.
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: Anubis
so why do the other HD channels display full screen?

Which HD feeds display FS??? Since you have a 4:3 TV, all 16:9 feeds should be letterboxed.

Tune into FOX HD right now. The baseball game is 16:9. Is this channel being viewed FS or LB?

Do you have WGN HD? If so, the news is on right now and it's a 4:3 feed with black bars on the side to make it a 16:9 feed. Is this channel FS or does it have 4 black bars going around the screen?.
 

Anubis

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ok my mistake HD displays with bars on teh top and bottom i just rechecked this

there is ni option to stretch non HD hoizontally, but i can stretch it vertically which looks moronic,

well its my dads TV and he doesnt really care anyway and watches nothing in HD anyway, i was just curious to see if i coudl do it when i was home
 

TechnoKid

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Ok I know what you are experienceing now. When you have an HD input on the component inputs on the tv, it(TV) is somewhat locked into 16:9 mode (I believe the 4:3 pannys come with an "enhanced widescreen" feature, where all the guns of the CRT scan a 16:9 field instead of a 4:3 field so you get full resolution). If the video coming from the cable box is widescreen, you only get bars on the top and bottom of the image (since your TV is 4:3, this is essentailly letterboxing if its not setup for enhanced 16:9 mode). If the video coming from the cable box is 4:3, then you not only get bars on the top and bottom but on the side as well (sorta like diplaying a 4:3 image inside a letterbox on a 4:3 TV).
 

slycat

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hey i have a question too. I have a widescreen lcdtv with hdtv. How come when i watch DVD thats 16:9 theres still bars on top and bottom just like on a 4:3 tv? i though the purpose of 16:9 was so i could play the movie with no black bars whatsoever?... :(
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: slycat
hey i have a question too. I have a widescreen lcdtv with hdtv. How come when i watch DVD thats 16:9 theres still bars on top and bottom just like on a 4:3 tv? i though the purpose of 16:9 was so i could play the movie with no black bars whatsoever?... :(

16:9 is 1.78:1, most DVD's Aspect ratio is 1.85:1 or even 2:35:1, so you'll still get black bars.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: slycat
hey i have a question too. I have a widescreen lcdtv with hdtv. How come when i watch DVD thats 16:9 theres still bars on top and bottom just like on a 4:3 tv? i though the purpose of 16:9 was so i could play the movie with no black bars whatsoever?... :(

16:9 is 1.78:1, most DVD's Aspect ratio is 1.85:1 or even 2:35:1, so you'll still get black bars.

Some aspect rations are wider than 16:9, do you will still get black bars on the top and bottom. Text
 

slycat

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: slycat
hey i have a question too. I have a widescreen lcdtv with hdtv. How come when i watch DVD thats 16:9 theres still bars on top and bottom just like on a 4:3 tv? i though the purpose of 16:9 was so i could play the movie with no black bars whatsoever?... :(

16:9 is 1.78:1, most DVD's Aspect ratio is 1.85:1 or even 2:35:1, so you'll still get black bars.

Some aspect rations are wider than 16:9, do you will still get black bars on the top and bottom. Text

Man so like...wtf is the point of widescreen? i don't see the advantage..they look the same whether on the 4:3 or the 16:9. Real disappointed coz i tot i'd be getting more screen real estate. After watching both MatrixRevolutions and TheTwoTowers, i feel like i dun get widescreen at all. :(
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: slycat
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: slycat
hey i have a question too. I have a widescreen lcdtv with hdtv. How come when i watch DVD thats 16:9 theres still bars on top and bottom just like on a 4:3 tv? i though the purpose of 16:9 was so i could play the movie with no black bars whatsoever?... :(

16:9 is 1.78:1, most DVD's Aspect ratio is 1.85:1 or even 2:35:1, so you'll still get black bars.

Some aspect rations are wider than 16:9, do you will still get black bars on the top and bottom. Text

Man so like...wtf is the point of widescreen? i don't see the advantage..they look the same whether on the 4:3 or the 16:9. Real disappointed coz i tot i'd be getting more screen real estate. After watching both MatrixRevolutions and TheTwoTowers, i feel like i dun get widescreen at all. :(

umm letterbox on a 4:3 tv is crap compared to anamorphic on a 16:9 tv. Even though some sources are wider than 16:9, you are still geting more resolution from displaying it on a 16:9 set versus letterbox on a 4:3 set. If you want more "screen real estate" then get a bigger TV or a front mounted projector. Real estate is different than proper use of availible resolution.