HD slooooow on IDE channel

QueBert

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I have a MSI p35 MB, E6550 CPU, 2 gigs DDR2. My main HD is a 500gb WD IDE drive, my system has always seemed a bit sluggish to me, so I decided to downloaded HD Tune and ran it 3 times over 3 days I'm getting these benchmarks:

Minimum: 21.9 MB/s
Maximum: 29.7 MB/s
Average: 28.3 MB/s
Access Time: 13.9 ms
Burst Rate: 27.9 MB/s
CPU Usage: 4.4%

I know the p35 has shotty IDE support and the Jmicron controller is pretty much junk. But these are f***cking horrible numbers. I was curious so I hooked up an older 250gb Maxtor SATA drive got these


Minimum: 30.7 MB/s
Maximum: 57.9 MB/s
Average: 47.7 MB/s
Access Time: 15.1 ms
Burst Rate: 97.4 MB/s
CPU Usage: 3.4%

my Minimum is higher than my max on my IDE, my burst is 3.5x times higher! I'm pondering xfering my XP install over to the 250 so my system will be much quicker, but my 500 will still be used for games and these speeds would make load times real bad. What are my options? I looked in my device manager and it's using the Microsoft standard IDE driver, I looked and it doesn't seem Jmicron has an IDE driver you can download. Don't even know if it would help but I wanted to see.
 

mpilchfamily

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Its really a matter of the drive itself. The difference in speeds may come down to the drives and not what interface they are on. If you want better performance then get a better SATA drive. HDD are pretty cheap so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to upgrade to a better drive.
 

sonoma1993

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I have a MSI p35 MB, E6550 CPU, 2 gigs DDR2. My main HD is a 500gb WD IDE drive, my system has always seemed a bit sluggish to me, so I decided to downloaded HD Tune and ran it 3 times over 3 days I'm getting these benchmarks:

Minimum: 21.9 MB/s
Maximum: 29.7 MB/s
Average: 28.3 MB/s
Access Time: 13.9 ms
Burst Rate: 27.9 MB/s
CPU Usage: 4.4%

I know the p35 has shotty IDE support and the Jmicron controller is pretty much junk. But these are f***cking horrible numbers. I was curious so I hooked up an older 250gb Maxtor SATA drive got these


Minimum: 30.7 MB/s
Maximum: 57.9 MB/s
Average: 47.7 MB/s
Access Time: 15.1 ms
Burst Rate: 97.4 MB/s
CPU Usage: 3.4%

my Minimum is higher than my max on my IDE, my burst is 3.5x times higher! I'm pondering xfering my XP install over to the 250 so my system will be much quicker, but my 500 will still be used for games and these speeds would make load times real bad. What are my options? I looked in my device manager and it's using the Microsoft standard IDE driver, I looked and it doesn't seem Jmicron has an IDE driver you can download. Don't even know if it would help but I wanted to see.

do you know which mode your IDE hard drive is running in? do you know if it running in udma33 udma66 or udma100?
 

QueBert

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sonoma1993, both channels say "DMA if available" I did check that but forgot to mention it in my OP. I went into HD Tune right now and looked in the info, sure enough the IDE is running Mode 2 and the SATA is Mode 5. There's my problem. Now I just have to figure out how to fix it, in my device properties there is only DMA if available or PIO for options :(
 

sonoma1993

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Originally posted by: QueBert
sonoma1993, both channels say "DMA if available" I did check that but forgot to mention it in my OP. I went into HD Tune right now and looked in the info, sure enough the IDE is running Mode 2 and the SATA is Mode 5. There's my problem. Now I just have to figure out how to fix it, in my device properties there is only DMA if available or PIO for options :(

i would try checking for a setting in the motherboard bios.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Usually this setting is in the bios, or you are using a 40 conductor instead of 80 on the IDE
 

QueBert

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Busmastering is enabled in the BIOS, I installed Vista today on the SATA drive, and go figure my IDE is averaging about 75MB/s in Vista when I benchmark it. It has to be a setting in XP somewhere, there are no IDE drivers for this chipset, I might give up and just stick with Vista.

 

HBTech

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I have a MSI p35 MB, E6550 CPU, 2 gigs DDR2. My main HD is a 500gb WD IDE drive, my system has always seemed a bit sluggish to me, so I decided to downloaded HD Tune and ran it 3 times over 3 days I'm getting these benchmarks:

Minimum: 21.9 MB/s
Maximum: 29.7 MB/s
Average: 28.3 MB/s
Access Time: 13.9 ms
Burst Rate: 27.9 MB/s
CPU Usage: 4.4%

I know the p35 has shotty IDE support and the Jmicron controller is pretty much junk. But these are f***cking horrible numbers. I was curious so I hooked up an older 250gb Maxtor SATA drive got these


Minimum: 30.7 MB/s
Maximum: 57.9 MB/s
Average: 47.7 MB/s
Access Time: 15.1 ms
Burst Rate: 97.4 MB/s
CPU Usage: 3.4%

my Minimum is higher than my max on my IDE, my burst is 3.5x times higher! I'm pondering xfering my XP install over to the 250 so my system will be much quicker, but my 500 will still be used for games and these speeds would make load times real bad. What are my options? I looked in my device manager and it's using the Microsoft standard IDE driver, I looked and it doesn't seem Jmicron has an IDE driver you can download. Don't even know if it would help but I wanted to see.

Hi gays
check your bios satting and change value