HD or not?

[CHfan4ever]

I had an argument with some people about that, because a few thing that the future is indeed HD and some think it wont be necessary to have in the next 4-5 years.And i totally agree with them.

I am someone who made the jump last year of regular television to an HD set, and honestly, i, in some ways, regret my move.

I got a burn in on my television and i use that excuse to move back to a non HD set television, and you know what? Im pretty satisfied with the move i did.

Pro HD:-Amazing HD picture quality for the Channels and programs who support it.That is the best quality on the market
-Movie also on HD set look very nice,tho that on bigger screem, in some movies you can see some pixels tho, if the shooting quality is not excellent.It you try to listen a independant movie( who have been shot with a lesser quality picture, you might not like it)
-For gaming, it is also amazing.Nothing bad to say about that.

Con HD: The SD quality is just horrible on a HD set.I even compare a projection tv and a CRT tube, and both were not giving a good SD quality like an old SD tv set.
-Not enough channels.i purchase my HD set last year, and for 10 month, i got 2 new channels( who have about 2 % of their content in HD)



Do we move to a HD era or not?I think not.I dont think HD will be THE thing most people have.In fact, it will remain like it is for lots of years.Do you think all those 40-50 years old people will understand that movign to a HD set is a wise thing, when you show them that their old digital SD channels are now screwd up??? Nope.Do you think my grand mother will understand that too? Hell no.Not even yours.95 % of the planet still have regular 4:3 tube television, and you know what?I think it will remain like this.

If your a hardcore gamer, perhaps HD set is what is perfect for you, but if your like me, someone who lov watching tv, then a HD set is not required.Not for the cost of having a crappy picture SD quality for some single HD programs.

 

[spidey07]

ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

And if you want to know - take a look at number of new TVs being sold that are SD vs HD. That should tell you something.

 

[SynthDude2001]

I have a HD set and i really enjoy it!!

I voted for that even though I don't have an HD "set", I have a tuner for my PC. I could never go back to a regular analog tuner or TV now.

 

[conjur]

Whoever voted the last option needs to be b*tch-slapped.

 

[CHfan4ever]

Originally posted by: spidey07
ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

Then explain why my SD content look as good on my 4:3 CRT tube television , then my HD content look an HD set?Why do the SD content have to look crappy on a HD set??? Why is that??

My SD look amazing on my tube television christ...if not as flawless as the HD look on a HD set

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: conjur
Whoever voted the last option needs to be b*tch-slapped.

:thumbsup:

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: conjur
Whoever voted the last option needs to be b*tch-slapped.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: ifesfor

Originally posted by: spidey07
ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

Then explain why my SD content look as good on my 4:3 CRT tube television , then my HD content look an HD set?Wiht do the SD content have to look crappy on a HD set??? Why is that??

My SD look amazing on my tube television christ...if not as flawless as the HD look on a HD set

How large is your HDTV vs your CRT SDTV?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ifesfor

Originally posted by: spidey07
ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

Then explain why my SD content look as good on my 4:3 CRT tube television , then my HD content look an HD set?Wiht do the SD content have to look crappy on a HD set??? Why is that??

My SD look amazing on my tube television christ...if not as flawless as the HD look on a HD set

What size HD set did you have, what was your viewing distance?

Your SD did not look amazing. Scanlines do not equal clarity.

I'm pretty sure if you scaled your viewing distance accordingly with a SD and HD set viewing SD material there would be little difference. A lot of people are used to watching a 32" set and then plop down a 55/65" set at the same distance.

Well if you sat 3 feet away from your old 32" it would be the same and you'd see all the crap in there.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: conjur
Whoever voted the last option needs to be b*tch-slapped.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

 

[CHfan4ever]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: ifesfor

Originally posted by: spidey07
ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

Then explain why my SD content look as good on my 4:3 CRT tube television , then my HD content look an HD set?Wiht do the SD content have to look crappy on a HD set??? Why is that??

My SD look amazing on my tube television christ...if not as flawless as the HD look on a HD set

How large is your HDTV vs your CRT SDTV?

42 vs 32 .And my Sd look as good on my 32 than my 19" in my room.So the size aint the problem .Yeah it have been said as "the excuse" for those HD set builders ( hey your tv is too big to accept a SD signal.But guess what???I saw SD content on an old 60" tv who is NOT HD ( an old 60 rear projection tv with incredible s-video support) and also remember how well was my SD content on my old 43 inc RCA ( with svideo support) and the SD quality, even if not as sharp as a Tube tv, was looking 3 time better than those current HD set.

No the problem is nto how big it is, but what do you have inside your tv that screw up your SD content.

 

[FoBoT]

HD is what? hard drive?

 

[CHfan4ever]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
HD is what? hard drive?

Nope, High Definition

 

[spidey07]

That is a function of the linedoubler and the set itself as well.

Sounds like you got a bum TV, and not to insult - but don't know what "good" looks like.

You're used to that overly sharpened illusion that scanlines give you as well as probably having the sharpness cranked to 11 out of 10.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ifesfor

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: ifesfor

Originally posted by: spidey07
ummm, you'll get burn in on any projection set.

ummm, the crappy SD picture is a funtion of the TV - not that its HD.

That being said I have 3 HD TVs and couldn't be happier. I couldn't ever go back to a SD tube tv - ever.

Then explain why my SD content look as good on my 4:3 CRT tube television , then my HD content look an HD set?Wiht do the SD content have to look crappy on a HD set??? Why is that??

My SD look amazing on my tube television christ...if not as flawless as the HD look on a HD set

How large is your HDTV vs your CRT SDTV?

42 vs 32 .And my Sd look as good on my 32 than my 19" in my room.So the size aint the problem .Yeah it have been said as "the excuse" for those HD set builders ( hey your tv is too big to accept a SD signal.But guess what???I saw SD content on an old 60" tv who is NOT HD ( an old 60 rear projection tv with incredible s-video support) and also remember how well was my SD content on my old 43 inc RCA ( with svideo support) and the SD quality, even if not as sharp as a Tube tv, was looking 3 time better than those current HD set.

No the problem is nto how big it is, but what do you have inside your tv that screw up your SD content.

Sounds to me like you've never seen true HD, just upconverted SD, at best.

No way...no WAY that SD will ever look better than HD.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: spidey07

You're used to that overly sharpened illusion that scanlines give you as well as probably having the sharpness cranked to 11 out of 10.

Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...

Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.

 

[CHfan4ever]

No matter what, SD suck.MY HD tv with SD was horrible.My friend 46 LCD with an excellent viewing distance also have crappy Sd picture.


HD set are not just set to accept SD content.Nothing beat a 4:3 tube for excellent SD display and that the reason why people will not make the move to buy a HD set.

The day they make a HD tv with the ability of having a SD signal that look as good as on tube television, then i will maybe purchase one back....

But its not the case.I think those builder remove something into their tv to save cost, and will give you an excuse in a year or 2 that they have invented(" yeah right") something so that SD content will look as good as it was on tube television

I pretty sure they made the SD look crap on HD set on purpose.

 

[CHfan4ever]

Originally posted by: spidey07
That is a function of the linedoubler and the set itself as well.

Sounds like you got a bum TV, and not to insult - but don't know what "good" looks like.

You're used to that overly sharpened illusion that scanlines give you as well as probably having the sharpness cranked to 11 out of 10.

trust me, its wasent a sharpess issue.Sharpness on my tv was at 40% * if it was at 100% it was 2x more horrible )

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ifesfor
No matter what, SD suck.MY HD tv with SD was horrible.My friend 46 LCD with an excellent viewing distance also have crappy Sd picture.


HD set are not just set to accept SD content.Nothing beat a 4:3 tube for excellent SD display and that the reason why people will not make the move to buy a HD set.

The day they make a HD tv with the ability of having a SD signal that look as good as on tube television, then i will maybe purchase one back....

But its not the case.I think those builder remove something into their tv to save cost, and will give you an excuse in a year or 2 that they have invented(" yeah right") something so that SD content will look as good as it was on tube television

I pretty sure they made the SD look crap on HD set on purpose.

And now the truth finally comes out. You're comparing SD on an HDTV vs. SD on an SDTV. Jesus Christ.


Ok...

Take a 21" computer monitor and run it at 640x480 and tell me what you get.

 

[spidey07]

This is gonna be like beating a dead horse...only the horse will keep saying "but my tube tv looked the best!"

<---watching UK/FL in 16x9 HD goodness.

 

[CHfan4ever]

Ok how about that rumor about networks who will broadcast exclusivly in HD in 4 years...do you really beleive it is true????

Do you really beleive that BANG in 4 years, content in SD will totally stop, making all tube television being useless because they cant diffuse HD content???Do you beleive that the number of people owning a SD set ( probably 75 % of the people) in 4 years will all go crazy, panic and all go buy a HD set because their regualr old cable is nto working?

Hell no it wont happen.

95% of the people who own a SD tube tv dont even know WTF is HD.

Correct me if im wrong here, but HD content will be able to be diffuse on SD television, even if the television diffuse it in SD ( lower quality) .I even made the test.I took a 16:9 programming, wired my HD box to my regular SD tv, and i was able to watch Widescreen content( like rogers sportsnet and baseball) on my 4:# tube tv.

 

[conjur]

STFU, dude. You're embarrassing yourself.

You want HD content? It's out there. I have no cable, no satellite, and I watch quite a bit of it (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS). If I could get reception of it I'd have UPN and WB, too. If I had cable/satellite, I'd get HD content from ESPN, Discovery, HD Net, HD Net Movies, Bravo, HBO, Showtime, Movie Channel, Starz, Cinemax, and others.


You looking for, like, MTV in HD or something? :roll:

 

[0roo0roo]

there are enough ota channels in most decent sized cities i bet. theres pbs, and all the major networks and all their prime time shows in hd now. late night too. anything else really isn't worth watching...and tv news in sd ain't so bad since quality isn't that impoartant

 

[Bozono]

Originally posted by: conjur
STFU, dude. You're embarrassing yourself.

You want HD content? It's out there. I have no cable, no satellite, and I watch quite a bit of it (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS). If I could get reception of it I'd have UPN and WB, too. If I had cable/satellite, I'd get HD content from ESPN, Discovery, HD Net, HD Net Movies, Bravo, HBO, Showtime, Movie Channel, Starz, Cinemax, and others.


You looking for, like, MTV in HD or something? :roll:

Differenty Countries Conjur. You may get all that OTA but we don't get half those channels on a full-tiered cable package, let alone in HD. Though here in Toronto I'd say it'd be worth the HD investment for OTA stations alone; there being some 6 or 7 or so.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: ifesfor
Ok how about that rumor about networks who will broadcast exclusivly in HD in 4 years...do you really beleive it is true????

Do you really beleive that BANG in 4 years, content in SD will totally stop, making all tube television being useless because they cant diffuse HD content???Do you beleive that the number of people owning a SD set ( probably 75 % of the people) in 4 years will all go crazy, panic and all go buy a HD set because their regualr old cable is nto working?

Hell no it wont happen.

95% of the people who own a SD tube tv dont even know WTF is HD.

Correct me if im wrong here, but HD content will be able to be diffuse on SD television, even if the television diffuse it in SD ( lower quality) .I even made the test.I took a 16:9 programming, wired my HD box to my regular SD tv, and i was able to watch Widescreen content( like rogers sportsnet and baseball) on my 4:# tube tv.

sorry, hd content is everywhere now. any show worth watching is already in hd. every american who's seen late night tv has noticed a change to hd. well the hosts have announced and even explained it. pbs even explained it long ago.

and dont underestimate the governments desire to resell all that spectrum being wasted by sd.

everyone who's buying those tv dvd sets who's sales have been exploding knows the show are in wide screen format now. all the downloaders who've gotten shows off p2p also have gotten a small taste of the clarity of hdtv and the widescreen.