And you'll probably get half the features for the same price. Wow, great decision.
I doubt it will be in BD's favor significantly
Wreckage
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Ha, ha, ha, ha.
News like this must really make you cry
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007...ales-lead-over-hd-dvd/
destrekor
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half the features? what, exactly, are you talking about?
and no movie is ever going to require swapping discs during the movie. ever. no movie has ever done that, not that I recall (speaking in reference to optical disc movies, not VHS
). At best, they'd simply use as much compression as necessary for each given medium, and use a second disc for extra content. BD would naturally have a higher bitrate if they used BD50 for the movie disc, and a BD25 for the second disc, with the HD DVD version having two 30gb discs.as far as features, about the only thing BD is now missing is internet-enabled content. Big deal, most people don't care about that shit. It's a rather pointless feature and allows the studios to leave out content from the disc instead of including it in the first place. IMHO, it's BS.
picture in picture is coming to BD, how many titles will be using it soon I don't know. The spec allows for it now, and studios are going to prefer BD+'s copy-protection over HD DVDs. As much as DRM is a bitch for consumers, it's heaven for studios. The other features of HD DVD are in BD v1.1 as well, advanced bookmarking and whatnot.
They do. Lord of the Rings Extended Edition spanned two dvds. I've also got a copy of Goodfellas that has to be flipped over midway through the movie.Originally posted by: destrekor
and no movie is ever going to require swapping discs during the movie. ever. no movie has ever done that, not that I recall (speaking in reference to optical disc movies, not VHS
Shawn
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
They do. Lord of the Rings Extended Edition spanned two dvds. I've also got a copy of Goodfellas that has to be flipped over midway through the movie.Originally posted by: destrekor
and no movie is ever going to require swapping discs during the movie. ever. no movie has ever done that, not that I recall (speaking in reference to optical disc movies, not VHS
Uhh, my copy of Goodfellas doesn't have to be flipped over.
Nearly what? The latest Nielson/Videoscan numbers were 70:30 Blu-ray.
It'll swing with Transformers, then there's Spider-man 3 next week, Ratatouille and Cars the next week. Couple more weeks is Die Hard, followed by Pirates 3, High School Musical, Harry Potter, Simpsons Movie. That's a lot of exclusive numbers ahead before Christmas (Harry Potter dual release of course). After that, Rush Hour 3, Shoot 'Em Up, War, 3:10 to Yuma, 4 more exclusive or timed exclusive sales numbers in late Dec & early Jan.
I got the one from 1997, before dual layer dvds were in production. Flipper dvds were used a lot back then to have widescreen & fullscreen on the same disc, and in the case of Goodfellas hold the entire widescreen movie.
The new 40gb PS3 is $399, and all indications say it will be updated to profile 2.0. The other manufacturers will pretty much have to drop prices just to stay competitive against the PS3. If I guess, you'll have profile 2.0 players year from now for $200-$250. If HD DVD gains huge momentum, BD player prices will fall faster. If Blu-ray gains huge momentum, BD player prices will fall slower.
Shawn
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Best Buy has the HD-A3 out this week.
$299.99 - $35.99 (12% Reward Zone coupon) = $263.99
You get:
300 (in the box)
The Bourne Identity (in the box)
Plus two free HD DVD titles instantly in-store (valued $34.99 or less)
Plus five free HD DVD titles by mail (choose from selected titles)
And you get a third generation player.
2001 A Space Odyssey is pure eye candy. They did a fantastic job with it, is very crisp, really looks like a true hd presentation. For comparison the last Blu-ray I watched was Warner's The Twilight Zone and that was not up to par. I'm sure the title 2001 A Space Odyssey demands a better transfer just because of what it is, and probably not too difficult considering there's no action in the movie... ever. First time I've seen it, and I know they're supposed to keep the home version as close to the theatrical release as possible... but certainly they could have made it a "director's cut" or something and taken out the 3 minutes of intermission! :Q And of course I've had that melody in my head for a long time all while visioning Homer in the spaceship eating the potato chips.
Careful, they're ruffled! Or Pierce Brosnan's voice for HAL. :laugh:Never seen The Shining before either, probably watch it this weekend or something. Hope it's up to the same standard.
And the best thing about these movies is Warner put them out, everyone gets to enjoy them.
But for the Kubrick collection put out, where's Dr. Strangelove? Certainly they could have done without Eyes Wide Shut and went with Strangelove instead. I still want my 3 hours back from watching that movie years ago...Geez, next you'll be on me for not knowing what Bladerunner was. I admit, I've seen very few early 80's & prior movies, just really know the ones that have been parodied a lot (like 2001 A Space Odyssey). But that's what's cool with these hi def releases, they're new too me!
I admit, I've seen very few early 80's & prior movies, just really know the ones that have been parodied a lot (like 2001 A Space Odyssey). But that's what's cool with these hi def releases, they're new too me!At some point the sheer volume in the market will make each release less and less important. I believe we may be entering such a time. We have several million Blu Ray players in the market thanks to the PS3 and several hundred thousand HD-DVD players.
I really dont buy that 1 hit release is swaying these numbers as much as you claim. It may make 1 week look different. But long term sales trends wont be affected by a few releases.
I'd bee surprised if HD-DVD doesnt gain more ground over the holiday season due to their lower hardware prices. With Walmart selling A2's for sub 200 many many people will pick up a HD-DVD player and movies to go with it.
They better start falling before they lose their grasp on the market. A 14% swing in HD-DVDs favor in the past 3 qtrs should get them into gear.
You're still giving the consumer too much credit. Studios have more power to determine the outcome than consumers do.
It was completely different back with dvd vs. divx, as there was a drastic difference in usability. Not so with Blu-ray vs. HD DVD, for all practical purposes they are close enough to be considered equal technologies. Like I always joked with the dvd-/+r formats when anyone asked, the only difference is who collects the royalty payments.
We can get into the gritty details that make them different, but in reality they are not major like the format wars in the past. Even go back to vhs/beta, one is recordable and has many more uses, the other is not.
Eug
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The A3 and A2 are very similar in functionality. Any previous problems with the A2 are just corrected in firmware updates.
I was hoping the A3 would be a bit faster, but apparently it isn't. They're both way faster than the A1 though. (I had the A1 briefly but hated its clunky feel and its lack of speed).
zinfamous
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
2001 A Space Odyssey is pure eye candy. They did a fantastic job with it, is very crisp, really looks like a true hd presentation. For comparison the last Blu-ray I watched was Warner's The Twilight Zone and that was not up to par. I'm sure the title 2001 A Space Odyssey demands a better transfer just because of what it is, and probably not too difficult considering there's no action in the movie... ever. First time I've seen it, and I know they're supposed to keep the home version as close to the theatrical release as possible... but certainly they could have made it a "director's cut" or something and taken out the 3 minutes of intermission! :Q And of course I've had that melody in my head for a long time all while visioning Homer in the spaceship eating the potato chips.
Never seen The Shining before either, probably watch it this weekend or something. Hope it's up to the same standard.
And the best thing about these movies is Warner put them out, everyone gets to enjoy them.
I agree with Strangelove. But I think Eyes seems to get trashed mroe than it deserves. Still a beuatiful film to watch. Esp when you consider it was all sound stage.
AS Michael Bay put it:
?It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD (home video). As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out.?
I was hoping Bay would hint at how long this exclusivity deal with Paramount is since it feels like the Paramount deal was hail mary for HD DVD and if they can't catch up or surpass BD before the deal runs out, they're going to be in trouble.
Next summer's blockbuster's are probably going to be a major deciding factor when they're released on HD DVD and BD.
?It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD (home video). As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out.?
I was hoping Bay would hint at how long this exclusivity deal with Paramount is since it feels like the Paramount deal was hail mary for HD DVD and if they can't catch up or surpass BD before the deal runs out, they're going to be in trouble.
Next summer's blockbuster's are probably going to be a major deciding factor when they're released on HD DVD and BD.
You are right they are nearly identical technologies which means price more than anything will determine what the consumer buys. If you have two apples from two different vendors. Why would you buy the more expensive nearly identical apple over the cheaper one?
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