HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Eug
Warner's quality control leaves much to be desired.

Some of the Blu-ray Harry Potter box sets came with an HD DVD in the set.

LOL... how does that even happen?

 

[jpeyton]

Sony is at the 2.9 million mark for the PS3 in the US; they should hit the 3 million mark by the end of the week. Already over 7 million worldwide.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Eug
Warner's quality control leaves much to be desired.

Some of the Blu-ray Harry Potter box sets came with an HD DVD in the set.

LOL... how does that even happen?

They want you to buy both players.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Eug
Battlestar Galactica Season 1

Just keep your fingers crossed:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb...12401422&postcount=149

Warner's quality control leaves much to be desired.

Some of the Blu-ray Harry Potter box sets came with an HD DVD in the set.

No wonder how all the HD DVD discs get sold - they sneak them into the Blu-ray packaging.

Anyways, same happened with Planet Earth, BD sets got some HD DVD discs, HD DVD sets got some BD discs. At least you ordered your WB movies somewhere other than their own WB store, you'd probably be lucky to receive them by February. *Warning*, WB store has some serious problems backing them up, and enough people have canceled their orders only to have their card still charged and the movies shipped out several weeks late.

 

[cubby1223]

The latest document making the rounds:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007...msrp-of-hd-dvd-titles/

But it makes no sense, how does Toshiba dictate prices of products it does not own or sell? The format war has drug on far too long for any rational understanding.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
The latest document making the rounds:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007...msrp-of-hd-dvd-titles/

But it makes no sense, how does Toshiba dictate prices of products it does not own or sell? The format war has drug on far too long for any rational understanding.

They are probably offering the studios some incentive to drop prices.

 

[ProfJohn]

Perhaps Toshiba has control over the pricing and manufacturing of the HD DVDs similar to way Columbia House made its own CDs back in the 80s and 90s.

 

[cubby1223]

Even Microsoft's favorite whipping boy is coming to grips with the rumors flying around:
http://news.digitaltrends.com/talkback224.html

But true to the corporation that pays him, he's singing the demise of HD on optical and the coming age of digital downloads. If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em. If you can't buy 'em, kill 'em.


Only problem with downloads is that to go full blown, you're adding in the range of an exabyte of additional internet traffic every week on top of everything else that will be making greater use of the internet. A popular 2 minute compressed movie trailer can take down a site. What's an additional exabyte of weekly traffic going to do? Who's going to pay for an upgraded internet backbone to replace an established profitable industry of optical distribution? In other words, I say we have many more years of optical discs ahead of us.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
In other words, I say we have many more years of optical discs ahead of us.

More than Microsoft realizes. The death of optical discs will be as slow for movies as it was for music. The movie industry, just like the music industry of days past, is enjoying the enormous profits from optical disc sales, and will hold on to this revenue stream as long as they can.

Black Friday Sales Broken Down

Standalone Players
HD-DVD: 62%
Blu-Ray: 38%

Software
HD-DVD: 27.4%
Blu-Ray: 72.6%

Chalk it up to the PS3, which sold 3x more units that same week than all standalone high-definition movie players combined.

 

[dug777]

The mighty Blu-Ray marches on, vanquishing the feeble HD-DVD as I type

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: cubby1223
In other words, I say we have many more years of optical discs ahead of us.

More than Microsoft realizes. The death of optical discs will be as slow for movies as it was for music. The movie industry, just like the music industry of days past, is enjoying the enormous profits from optical disc sales, and will hold on to this revenue stream as long as they can.

Black Friday Sales Broken Down

Standalone Players
HD-DVD: 62%
Blu-Ray: 38%

Software
HD-DVD: 27.4%
Blu-Ray: 72.6%

Chalk it up to the PS3, which sold 3x more units that same week than all standalone high-definition movie players combined.

Not even Sony's CEO is so sure...


http://www.tvpredictions.com/stringer121107.htm

 

[ranmaniac]

Originally posted by: dug777
The mighty Blu-Ray marches on, vanquishing the feeble HD-DVD as I type

The only format that's winning is the regular DVD. When Blu Ray sells 51% of all dvds sold, then they'll be the winner hands down, but with the HD market at like 1% of all dvd sales, we're still in the infancy of the format war.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: ranmaniac

Originally posted by: dug777
The mighty Blu-Ray marches on, vanquishing the feeble HD-DVD as I type

The only format that's winning is the regular DVD. When Blu Ray sells 51% of all dvds sold, then they'll be the winner hands down, but with the HD market at like 1% of all dvd sales, we're still in the infancy of the format war.

The reason this argument doesn't work is because neither format will achieve mass market adoption with another legitimate competing rival format in existence.

The format war needs to get lopsided to see adoption numbers rise to DVD levels. And in turn, widespread adoption of one format will lead to the demise of the other.