HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

[zinfamous]

^ Those things are always meaningless to me because I'm old enough to associate Jonathan Pryce with the things he did many years ago, long before there ever was a Pope Francis.

Like being a shitty villain in one of the shittier of the shitty Pierce Brosnan Bond films.

And trying to sell me Infinities for all those years.

If anything, it should be the other way around.

 

[TallBill]

I would assume they were there already while trying to figure out how to get past the 3eyed raven's shields.

but if so, why didn't he tell bran they're outside?
or any of the tree folk tell him either?

if woody had gone to the police, none of this would have happened.

unless the 3eyed raven wanted this to happen?
sacrifice his treefolk for a greater purpose (ie: bran)

Yes, this was all supposed to happen on purpose...

 

[TallBill]

I feel bad for Hodor - doomed to spend an entire adulthood as a simpleton mute just because his destiny is to hold a door shut for 30 seconds and then get torn apart by walking dead...

But that's quite the destiny.

 

[PokerGuy]

One can say that about 90% of the female anatomy displays in the show. Very little story need for any of it.

Sure they could have done the scenes without the nudity, but generally the nudity makes sense in the context in which it's presented, it's associated with a scene where there is sex, or a brothel, drunken debauchery etc.

I don't think this cock is about quotas or trying to be "equal," or what you guys are all hinting at: SJWs ruining my entertainment content yet again--but I think it was simply: "Lol--here's a cock in your face, *ssholes!"

I think you're wrong about the trying to be "equal" part, the show has come under pressure for sexual violence against women, only showing female nudity (websites actually keep track of number of instances of male vs female etc). I don't care if they want to include male nudity as well as female nudity -- it's whatever the show producers think will get more people to watch that matters. That's fine with me, I was commenting more on how weird and out of place it was.

They showed the boobs of the other actress in the play a few seconds before, and it's almost like they decided afterwards "in the interest of equal time, lets throw in a dick as well!". There was no use for it and no reason for it at that point, they could have done the scene without any nudity (male or female) and it would have been fine. The way they did it felt very out of place and forced.

Also, what was the deal with Varys and the new red priestess? She seemed to know something about the voice that talked to him when he was a child etc, and he seemed very freaked out. Did I miss something earlier, or are they opening up a new story we haven't seen yet?

 

[Homerboy]

Also, what was the deal with Varys and the new red priestess? She seemed to know something about the voice that talked to him when he was a child etc, and he seemed very freaked out. Did I miss something earlier, or are they opening up a new story we haven't seen yet?

May take on that (and I could be WAY off) was that since Vary's was questioning her faith/power/etc she was just showing him "Look dude, through the Lord of Light, I know and can see all. Yes, the Stannis was a misreading or misinterpretation by a lowly servant of the Lord, but the power is there..."

 

[Drako]

Why is Sansa hiding the fact that Baelish told her about Brynden? What could she gain by keeping that information to herself?

She didn't keep it to herself. Brienne was there too.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Apparently the show is under fire for a lack of "diversity" in nudity. I mean, really, not even women want to just see dick flash on the screen at random points.

But hey, feminists gotta feminist.

haha yea, I was thinking the dick shot + warts was a vehicle to appease that crowd AND gross them out that the same time.

Hey they never show any penis.

Ok, here's a dick shot... but its got warts.

 

[JEDI]

new red priestess's rack:
http://ancensored.com/files/images/vthumbs/a/18ca74d256290da37ba90ec27a83a6f1_full.jpg

 

[Homerboy]

Just realized that Bran's wolf was named Summer. Summer has now ended. Winter has come?

 

[slag]

Just realized that Bran's wolf was named Summer. Summer has now ended. Winter has come?

Spoiler

So.. did we actually see Hodor die? I remember them clutching at him trying to get out of the door, and Bran was being carried off on the stretcher, but Hodor was still alive at the end of the show...

Also, there's no way Bran can make it far enough away unless next episode someone or something arrives to help Hodor hold that door shut, otherwise, they will be on Bran in a matter of seconds.

 

[MongGrel]

Just a thought, but does anyone else suspect Lady Crane might be a Faceless Man, possibly ?

Or maybe all of them, in the traveling show ...

Would be good cover for an assassin guild.

Arya was supposed to poison her, you know.

Another test ?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Why is Sansa hiding the fact that Baelish told her about Brynden? What could she gain by keeping that information to herself?

Probably wants to hide the fact that she's dealing with Baelish at all. If she trusts the information and wants to act on it then it's better if she passes it off as coming from a more reliable source.

 

[Phoenix86]

May take on that (and I could be WAY off) was that since Vary's was questioning her faith/power/etc she was just showing him "Look dude, through the Lord of Light, I know and can see all. Yes, the Stannis was a misreading or misinterpretation by a lowly servant of the Lord, but the power is there..."

Pretty much my take too, it was a show of power. The priestess showed him she knew something she couldn't have possibly known.

Spoiler

So.. did we actually see Hodor die? I remember them clutching at him trying to get out of the door, and Bran was being carried off on the stretcher, but Hodor was still alive at the end of the show...

Also, there's no way Bran can make it far enough away unless next episode someone or something arrives to help Hodor hold that door shut, otherwise, they will be on Bran in a matter of seconds.

No we didn't see it directly, but I think it's safe to assume. IIRC he took an axe to the shoulder as it cut away. He might not be gone from the show either, logically he'll become a wight.

The only way, and I think this is thin, that they get away without help is there seemed to be a blizzard. Lost sight of them and they sneak away, but then there's obvious tracks. Someone has to help them in someway, imo.

 

[Aharami]

The only way, and I think this is thin, that they get away without help is there seemed to be a blizzard. Lost sight of them and they sneak away, but then there's obvious tracks. Someone has to help them in someway, imo.

Bran has the Night King's mark on him. He'll be found no matter where he does. Unless that mark is temporary...

 

[Phoenix86]

Bran has the Night King's mark on him. He'll be found no matter where he does. Unless that mark is temporary...

I took that as more of a scar, the king knew where he was when it touched him but not like a tracking beacon. Who knows though...

 

[JEDI]

Pretty much my take too, it was a show of power. The priestess showed him she knew something she couldn't have possibly known.

except varys told tyrion. :hmmm:

now I'm thinking "do you want me to repeat what the sorcerer said?" is a bluff.
varys never told tyrion what the sorcerer's name was.

 

[Homerboy]

The only way, and I think this is thin, that they get away without help is there seemed to be a blizzard. Lost sight of them and they sneak away, but then there's obvious tracks. Someone has to help them in someway, imo.

Except for the fact that whenever the wights and the whole ice crew shows up, they bring a blizzard/feezing cold with them (Craster's Keep scenes, Hardhome cliff top, Fist of the First Men etc etc).

Them "escaping" by Hodor holding the door really makes no sense at all as they would

A) Freeze damned quickly
B) She couldn't pull him very long
C) Doesn't Bran die if he's wargged into Hodor when he dies?
D) The Ice Crew would find them VERY quickly regardless of the mark on his hand.
E) I could go on and on as to why their escape makes no sense unless somebody swoops in and saves them. Actually it will be a pretty stupid event if they just are able to run away in the end.

 

[Paladin3]

One can say that about 90% of the female anatomy displays in the show. Very little story need for any of it.

I don't think this cock is about quotas or trying to be "equal," or what you guys are all hinting at: SJWs ruining my entertainment content yet again--but I think it was simply: "Lol--here's a cock in your face, assholes!"

I chuckled.

Bolded part, for sure. Intended to shut up anyone bitching about the female vs male nudity ratio ever again.

 

[adairusmc]

Except for the fact that whenever the wights and the whole ice crew shows up, they bring a blizzard/feezing cold with them (Craster's Keep scenes, Hardhome cliff top, Fist of the First Men etc etc).

Them "escaping" by Hodor holding the door really makes no sense at all as they would

A) Freeze damned quickly
B) She couldn't pull him very long
C) Doesn't Bran die if he's wargged into Hodor when he dies?
D) The Ice Crew would find them VERY quickly regardless of the mark on his hand.
E) I could go on and on as to why their escape makes no sense unless somebody swoops in and saves them. Actually it will be a pretty stupid event if they just are able to run away in the end.

I think this is a perfect opportunity to introduce their savior,

Spoiler

Benjen........I mean Coldhands

to the show.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

E) I could go on and on as to why their escape makes no sense unless somebody swoops in and saves them. Actually it will be a pretty stupid event if they just are able to run away in the end.

The Giant Eagles will save them!!

It's quite the pickle for the writers to get them out of that plausibly. No matter how long Hodor holds the door, if the wights get through Meera/Bran are toast. They're moving slowly and leaving a trail easy to follow even without the mark on Bran. So either Hodor dies in a way which blocks the door completely which will be silly or some deus ex machina saves them. It'll probably be something lame-ass like Bran wakes up and realizes he has power to reverse the mark and use it to shield him or the mark gives him power to control the wights.

 

[MongGrel]

Who was that major Wilding I can not remember the name of ?

Perhaps an appearance soon ?

The dick pic could have been a "beautiful being" prelude

We'll see. Does seem it could be a bit of an insider joke.

*edit* NM, it was mentioned above undercover, derp.

 

[Paladin3]

The Giant Eagles will save them!!

It's quite the pickle for the writers to get them out of that plausibly. No matter how long Hodor holds the door, if the wights get through Meera/Bran are toast. They're moving slowly and leaving a trail easy to follow even without the mark on Bran. So either Hodor dies in a way which blocks the door completely which will be silly or some deus ex machina saves them. It'll probably be something lame-ass like Bran wakes up and realizes he has power to reverse the mark and use it to shield him or the mark gives him power to control the wights.

Or the blowing wind could obscure their trail and they disappear in the low visibility of the storm. While Hordor was holding the door, they showed several shots of Meera and Bran running away and they were not visible in the final one, IIRC. Hordor's death allowed them to escape, making it a noble sacrifice rather than a senseless death.

 

[Homerboy]

I think this is a perfect opportunity to introduce their savior,

Spoiler

Benjen........I mean Coldhands

to the show.

This is about the only "plausible" way to have them saved. Though I'm guessing it will just be "they escaped due the the heroic sacrifice of Hodor!" and everyone will move on past it. This is the type of thing that would work in a TV show, but not the books.

The Giant Eagles will save them!!

It's quite the pickle for the writers to get them out of that plausibly. No matter how long Hodor holds the door, if the wights get through Meera/Bran are toast. They're moving slowly and leaving a trail easy to follow even without the mark on Bran. So either Hodor dies in a way which blocks the door completely which will be silly or some deus ex machina saves them. It'll probably be something lame-ass like Bran wakes up and realizes he has power to reverse the mark and use it to shield him or the mark gives him power to control the wights.

I think we're all over thinking "the mark". I doubt we'll see any more of it going forward. It was just a lame way for them to have the Iceman Commeth and find them (as if they'd have no idea they were under the HUGE Weirwood tree already -- not to mention, didn't Jojen etc get attacked when they were entering the cave/tree in season 4? I recall skeleton and shit popping out of the ice and the children of the forest saving them then.

Speaking of children of the forest -- their little bombs were beyond lame. The way it was filmed it seemed like something from the A-Team or some mid-80s action movie.

 

[Chiropteran]

I think this is a perfect opportunity to introduce their savior,

Spoiler

Benjen........I mean Coldhands

to the show.

Pretty much confirmed.

Super spoiler:

Spoiler

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1152798/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I think we're all over thinking "the mark". I doubt we'll see any more of it going forward.

That would be even dumber. It happens and it's a huge deal because it allows the Nights King to find him almost instantly and sets up a harrowing escape, but it only works once? Talk about a Deus Ex Machina moment. "Gee, we need some excitement, let's pull a magical connection between Bran and the Nights King out of our ass and then forget all about it..."

Nope. They damn well better use it again or they should not have used it at all. I'm betting it's something Bran will have to work around and eventually learn to use to his advantage.