HBO is doing another WW2 miniseries.

[Nintendesert]

why not do some other wars, i'm sick of hearing about WW2 myself, it's been analysed to death.

The only ones really doing this are Spielberg and Hanks, both heavily involved with WWII. I'd like to see a Korean War series. There's a war we don't get much on.

 

[waggy]

why not do some other wars, i'm sick of hearing about WW2 myself, it's been analysed to death.

only other war you can do such a story is WW1. and even then like others said its going to come down to trench warfare. You could write great stories i just don't see them being as good as BoB

 

[zerocool84]

A serious about naval warfare in WW1 would be cool. Battle of the Falkland Islands, Dogger Bank, Jutland. Big ships with big guns are pretty neat.

Not as a mini series.

 

[phucheneh]

First reaction is 'really, another? After the suckage of The Pacific practically retroactively ruined BoB for me?'

But one about air combat? Different. And in comparison to stuff about infantryman, there are so few movies/series that focus on the air war [that aren't terrible].

Hopefully they learned some lessons and will go back to focusing on one particular group of guys, with some consistent standout leads to keep it grounded and familiar, even as they shift among various points of view.

 

[OlafSicky]

The only ones really doing this are Spielberg and Hanks, both heavily involved with WWII. I'd like to see a Korean War series. There's a war we don't get much on.

It's called MASH

 

[Nintendesert]

It's called MASH

The show wasn't actually about Korea, you do realize that I hope.

 

[randomrogue]

The Battle of the Somme, 1916

At 0730 hours on the 1st July, 1916, after a weeklong artillery bombardment launched the now infamous "Big Push" attack across the river Somme. With the French Army being hard-pressed to the south at Verdun the British intended to breakthrough the German defences in a matter of hours.


The mistrust that High Command had of the so-called "New Armies" manifested itself in the orders to the troops to keep uniformed lines and to march towards the enemy across no-man's land. This, coupled with the failure of the artillery bombardment to dislodge much of the German wire, or to destroy their machine-gun posts, led to one of the biggest slaughters in military history.


When the attack began the Germans dragged themselves out of their dugouts, manned their posts and destroyed the oncoming waves of British infantry.
After the first day, with a gain of only 1.5km, the British had suffered 57,470 casualties. Despite this, Haig pressed on with the attack until November 19th of the same year. For the meagre achievements, total losses on the British and Imperial side numbered 419,654 with German casualties between 450,000 and 680,000. When the offensive was eventually called off the British were still 3 miles short of Bapaume and Serre, part of their first-day objectives.

Spelling mistakes not mine. I just grabbed something from the net.

Unfortunately this is why WWI isn't going to make it into a mini-series. It would basically alternate between scenes like this, the Spanish flu ravaging the trenches. and mustard gas. It would be really boring.

I wouldn't mind more WWII but maybe from the Russian point of view or something down in Africa. Maybe though this air one will be really good. I'm optimistic.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Put me in the group of "will watch, but not super excited."

 

[JTsyo]

Spoiler:

Spoiler

We win.

Did we though? I guess we did remove all of Luftwaffe and Imperial Air Service from the air. Never seen any numbers for fighters vs fighters fights. Germany was certainly pushing the tech by the end of the war.

 

[midwestfisherman]

spoiler:

Spoiler

we win.

dammit!!

 

[Aharami]

After the let down that was The Pacific, I won't let myself get excited about this. I think BoB set the bar too high!

 

[phucheneh]

Did we though? I guess we did remove all of Luftwaffe and Imperial Air Service from the air. Never seen any numbers for fighters vs fighters fights. Germany was certainly pushing the tech by the end of the war.

The tech didn't help them because of the absolutely massive amount of large, durable, well-armed planes we built both before and during our time in the war. We really let the British struggle for a good while before stepping in and dominating the air relatively quickly, with the good ol' American way: blunt fuckin' force.

From Wikipedia:

Air losses:

Germany: Estimated total number of destroyed and damaged for the war totaled 116,875 aircraft, of which 70,000 were total losses and the remainder significantly damaged. By type, losses totaled 41,452 fighters, 22,037 bombers, 15,428 trainers, 10,221 twin-engine fighters, 5,548 ground attack, 6,733 reconnaissance, and 6,141 transports.

Japan: Estimates vary from 35,000 to 50,000 total losses, with about 20,000 lost operationally.

Soviet Union: Total losses were over 106,400 including 88,300 combat types.

United States: Total losses were nearly 45,000, including 22,951 operational losses (18,418 in Europe and 4,533 in the Pacific).

So our 'operational losses' (planes where the pilot was killed or bailed, I'm assuming here) in total were only about as much as Japan's, who dominated the Pacific with a relatively meager force, mostly through lack of opposition. After Pearl Harbor, eh...I'll never comprehend why they thought an aerial attack on a US base was a good idea. I'm sure it was already well-known that we were pretty hard at work both building our forces and supplying our allies.

Some other war buff can probably give an accurate account, but AFAIK we gained air superiority over Japan inside of a year. I dunno, maybe it took until 1943.

And the Luftwaffe was pretty mortally wounded following D-Day. I don't think we had much of an air operation in Europe (aside from Italy) until then.

 

[techs]

WW2 bomber movies have succeeded because they usually focus on one or a few crews over the course of few weeks or months. The self contained 4 engine bomber makes for a similiar movie to a submarine movie.

I don't think it lends itself to sweeping years long story, so that part will be difficult to tell.

 

[phucheneh]

WW2 bomber movies have succeeded because they usually focus on one or a few crews over the course of few weeks or months. The self contained 4 engine bomber makes for a similiar movie to a submarine movie.

I don't think it lends itself to sweeping years long story, so that part will be difficult to tell.

I don't remember the details of TP, but BoB was airborne training, then D-Day, all the way to Hitler's surrender. Isn't that like a year? In-theater time would be June '44 to April '45.