Having trouble with my i5 4670k recent upgrade

[Brian 321]

Ok so I'm mainly trying to run SWTOR. My old 3330 was running it better than this. My concern is when I monitor my system with HWiNFO64 it shows that I'm using 100% of my CPU clock speed at 2.2-2.4ghz when this CPU is suppose to be 3.4ghz.

My old 3330 would run right around 3.0ghz at about 92% or so.

I have set up bios to the best of my ability which all I did was set it to IDE and set the CPU voltage from "auto" to "adaptive". I don't know if it makes a difference but all I did was swap keep the same HDD with windows. I didn't re-install fresh windows or anything.


System specs:

I5 4670k 3.4ghz
As rock extreme 3 Motherboard
Gtx 660 sc
Cx600w PSU
8gb DDR3 ram


I've installed all the motherboard drivers from the disc that came with it and updated it via Internet update in the bios menu.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.

Sorry in my aggravation I posted this in the wrong section of the forums, I just realized this, so if a mod could move it that would be great.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Try check the CPU temperatures while you play for example. It could be a heatsink that is not correctly seated.

 

[Brian 321]

Try check the CPU temperatures while you play for example. It could be a heatsink that is not correctly seated.

I thought that too, temps are around 41c while I play. Although I haven't played for longer that 2mins because of how much it stutters

 

[Seba]

When you change the motherboard, you should reinstall Windows.

 

[Brian 321]

When you change the motherboard, you should reinstall Windows.

I was wondering about that,I will try that I guess.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Just in case, make sure you use latest BIOS and that you reset BIOS settings to avoid any misconfiguration of stock settings.

What utility do you use for temperature monitoring? And have you checked all 4 cores?

 

[Brian 321]

Just in case, make sure you use latest BIOS and that you reset BIOS settings to avoid any misconfiguration of stock settings.

What utility do you use for temperature monitoring? And have you checked all 4 cores?

I use HWiNFO64 mainly but used real temp just to double check. Yeah I checked all 4 cores. Bios is up to date and I reset the CMOS already just to be sure. I know the problem is that I'm not getting the full 3.4ghz but I just don't know why. Here are a couple screenshots.

http://puu.sh/73BdJ

http://puu.sh/73Bym

 

[ShintaiDK]

Can you try run prime95. Then test 1 thread as well as 4. See what it goes up to.

And watch the CPU frequemcy if it jumps up and down. CPU-Z might be easier to do this with.

 

[Brian 321]

Can you try run prime95. Then test 1 thread as well as 4. See what it goes up to.

And watch the CPU frequemcy if it jumps up and down. CPU-Z might be easier to do this with.

I've done that and with prime95 all four cores go up to 3.7ghz and the temps in the 90c range.

I also just tried it with a different game to see and all cores went up to 3.7ghz with the temps in the 50c range. I'm starting to think maybe it's just swtor? Which is really the only game I play.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Reinstall the game? Its not hardware issue then.

 

[Tweakin]

Reinstall the game? Its not hardware issue then.

+1

I would still re-install windows though...

 

[Brian 321]

Reinstalling the game is one of the first things I tried.

 

[TFchris]

try turning off the "green mode" power saving mode that de-clocks your cpu when it's not being stressed to the max.

 

[coolpurplefan]

I read someone installed Windows with IDE selected in the BIOS then switched to AHCI and Windows could not see the hard drive. Don't know if that's slightly related or not. Apparently, you need to choose either IDE or AHCI (allegedly superior) during Windows installation and stay with it for it to work well.

 

[ElFenix]

I read someone installed Windows with IDE selected in the BIOS then switched to AHCI and Windows could not see the hard drive. Don't know if that's slightly related or not. Apparently, you need to choose either IDE or AHCI (allegedly superior) during Windows installation and stay with it for it to work well.

OP probably had it on IDE with the previous motherboard, so it's probably best left on IDE. AHCI can be switched to but requires messing with the registry first. and for hard drives i don't think it matters much.

OP i'd set the BIOS to defaults for all settings (default should be IDE, but make sure) and set the power settings in windows high performance first.

 

[Brian 321]

OP probably had it on IDE with the previous motherboard, so it's probably best left on IDE. AHCI can be switched to but requires messing with the registry first. and for hard drives i don't think it matters much.

OP i'd set the BIOS to defaults for all settings (default should be IDE, but make sure) and set the power settings in windows high performance first.

Yeah I had to set it to IDE for windows to start, ever thing was set to default except I did have it on high performance mode, had power saving when at idle off, and had throttle down to prevent overheating(or what ever it was called) off. But I fixed my problem. I put my new system back in the box and hooked my old system back up.

 

[Tweakin]

...But I fixed my problem. I put my new system back in the box and hooked my old system back up.

That's one way to do it...

 

[Brian 321]

That's one way to do it...

Yeah, to be honest my old i5 even feels faster when opening programs and such. The new one just feels like it hesitates a bit befor it does it. Maybe I got a bad one?

 

[Tweakin]

Yeah, to be honest my old i5 even feels faster when opening programs and such. The new one just feels like it hesitates a bit befor it does it. Maybe I got a bad one?

I thought the same thing with turbo enabled...just seemed to hang for a second.

 

[Tristor]

First, you should always fresh install Windows when you swap out your motherboard. There's also a performance advantage to using AHCI (although it's somewhat minimal) because of native command queuing if you have lots of concurrent I/O activities occurring on the system. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be requesting the full capabilities of the CPU in game, but I'd definitely recommend reinstalling Windows as it's the OS' responsibility to request a particular CPU state.

You can get around this all though by simply disabling turbo, or by enabling turbo and setting a hard multiplier (which is one of the advantages to the K and how you overclock it).

I really think this is a failure of the OS to behave properly, which isn't shocking. Windows tends to freak out a bit when hardware is swapped around. A reinstall is pretty much mandatory.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Yeah, to be honest my old i5 even feels faster when opening programs and such. The new one just feels like it hesitates a bit befor it does it. Maybe I got a bad one?

I haven't researched this but I've seen comments like HasFail. The problem of course is when people don't bother explaining why they say that.

 

[sm625]

On another thread I mentioned how this newer 4th gen i3 system I built feels slower than my 1st gen i5, even though it obviously has much more IPC and the clocks are the right about same at 3.4GHz. Obviously the i5 will feel faster if you're regularly pushing your cpu over 50% load. But this is not the case. It feels slower with just 1.5 cores pegged.

But its not horrible, not stuttering or anything like that. They're both clearly in the same ballpark.

btw you can easily migrate a windows installation. But make sure nothing from the old motherboard cd is running on the new system. You dont need any motherboard utilities anyway.