I upgraded from an xp1800+ Palomino cpu to a xp2400+ and am having problems. No other changes with my machine and I flashed the latest BIOS (version 6B) for this motherboard (KX7-333r). All the basic stuff, internet, email, works ok. New Thermalright sk7 heatsink with Delta 60mm (Im kinda deaf so noise no prob) keeps cpu at 40c. But if I start Dungeon Siege it locks up within 30 seconds. The 1800cpu scored 1757 on 3dMark03, the test wont begin with the 2400. Norton virus scan locked up. As with the 1800, I have nVidia GeF4 Ti 4200 128mb pushed to 305core/550mem, haven't changed that. Running Win2k on Antec PSU 350. Please help!
having problems after upgrading to xp2400+
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I must be missing something. If I go here: http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/biosdriver.php?categories=1&model=32 it says with the new BIOS I can run an Athlon xp 2400+ or 2600+. I cannot find any reference to motherboard versions 1.1 or 1. Please help, where do I find that info.
The one (non-r version) I flashed to B6 bios last week runs the 2400+ just fine. Did not notice or even look for the board revision, though. The original chip was a 1700+ pally, and the 2400+ a T-bred.
Hmmmm.... as I maybe mentioned somewhere before, I'm not interested in a RAID setup, so maybe reflash the BIOS with the non-r BIOS?
How come only now, with the new xp2400+ cpu, does the GeF 4 Ti 4200 hog too much power? No prob with the 1800. Nevertheless, thx for the info.
(What's GNU with the GPoL?)
How come only now, with the new xp2400+ cpu, does the GeF 4 Ti 4200 hog too much power? No prob with the 1800. Nevertheless, thx for the info.
(What's GNU with the GPoL?)
Nope, sorry. The non-r and r use the same bios. But perhaps the 2400+ sucks up too much power for your power supply to handle?
GNU = GNU's Not Unix
GPL = General Public License
GNU = GNU's Not Unix
GPL = General Public License
Compared with the 1800, the 2400 takes THAT much more power? I don't have a problem getting a 400/450 psu IF you think that'll fix all these lock ups. Thx!
(You got a BIG virtual womb?? ...nice rigs!)
(You got a BIG virtual womb?? ...nice rigs!)
I don't know that your power supply is the problem, it could be any number of other issues - perhaps your ram is not up to that speed. If you were in San Diego, I'd say bring that puppy by, and I'd scare it into working properly, or at least figure out where the fault lies.
Yea, I'm a computer addict, and I have a room full of 'em and their accessories. Remember that I can only list 10 of the boxes I got......:Q
Yea, I'm a computer addict, and I have a room full of 'em and their accessories. Remember that I can only list 10 of the boxes I got......:Q
Wow, nice to know someone has build-a-new-box syndrome worst than I do. Seems like every stray part morphs into a complete computer within a month.
Version 1.0 and 1.1 of the board: Athlon XP 2100, non-thoroughbred and non-barton with ---------------------------------guaranteed success. Everything else is iffy.
Version 1.2 of the board: Any Athlon you want.
-----------------------------------Thanks for the reply!
But why does the Abit site says 2600+ is the fastest cpu supported
----------------------------------------There is only a 1.0 and 1.1 revision of this mb and has been out of production for awhile. As to my knowlegde there is no 1.2 rev.
The Tbred A cores wouldnt work with the 1.0 and the B cores work with both 1.0 / 1.1
As far as highest cpu it will take the world may never know
Muskie
----------------------------------------Basicly 2600+ is the higest that will auto detect and set itself up. You can run higher CPU's if you set them up yourself in the BIOS...
posts on http://www.amdforums.com/
this is what i ment
Version 1.2 of the board: Any Athlon you want.
-----------------------------------Thanks for the reply!
But why does the Abit site says 2600+ is the fastest cpu supported
----------------------------------------There is only a 1.0 and 1.1 revision of this mb and has been out of production for awhile. As to my knowlegde there is no 1.2 rev.
The Tbred A cores wouldnt work with the 1.0 and the B cores work with both 1.0 / 1.1
As far as highest cpu it will take the world may never know
Muskie
----------------------------------------Basicly 2600+ is the higest that will auto detect and set itself up. You can run higher CPU's if you set them up yourself in the BIOS...
posts on http://www.amdforums.com/
this is what i ment
CPU support list and bios files should mention board versions!!
I have seen the CPU supporting list on this forum and am surprised that there is no mention of the KX7 board version number. It is a known issue that version 1.0 boards WILL NOT work with the T-breds, yet there is no mention of this.
Luckily I discovered the info but why not fess up and make a note in the cpu supported list as well as bios files. It would make a lot of people buying T-breds happy to know ahead of time if their board will work with them.
I believe there is a similar issue with the AT7 and no mention there either.
I'm glad to see an Abit board again (used to be on Abit FAE's board) and also your improved RMA policy, so it seems Abit is really trying hard to improve customer service.
Now keep it going and disclose the version info!!
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=250c64ddde9a861dc42b7f947f92f5a3&threadid=24
I have seen the CPU supporting list on this forum and am surprised that there is no mention of the KX7 board version number. It is a known issue that version 1.0 boards WILL NOT work with the T-breds, yet there is no mention of this.
Luckily I discovered the info but why not fess up and make a note in the cpu supported list as well as bios files. It would make a lot of people buying T-breds happy to know ahead of time if their board will work with them.
I believe there is a similar issue with the AT7 and no mention there either.
I'm glad to see an Abit board again (used to be on Abit FAE's board) and also your improved RMA policy, so it seems Abit is really trying hard to improve customer service.
Now keep it going and disclose the version info!!
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=250c64ddde9a861dc42b7f947f92f5a3&threadid=24
PSPADA!
Does this DRAM clock info help:
DRAM Clock = By SPD (133)
DRAM Timing = By SPD (or if Manuel is selected, the following appear
DRAM CAS Latency = 2.5
Bank Interleave = DIsabled
Precharge to Active (Trp) = 3T
Active to Precharge (Tras) = 6T
Active to CMD (Trcd) = 3T
DDR DQS Input Delay = Auto (If Manuel
Input Delay Value = 24
DDR DQS Output Delay = Auto (if Manuel
Output Delay Value = 40
MD Drive strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
DIMM 1 & 2 CMD Drive Strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
DIMM 3 & 4 CMD Drive Strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
Enhanced DRAM Performance = Disabled
DRAM Acess = 3T
DRAM Queue Depth = 2 level
DRAM Command Rate = 2T Command
DCLK Feedback Delay = Auto (or xxxps number)
Does this DRAM clock info help:
DRAM Clock = By SPD (133)
DRAM Timing = By SPD (or if Manuel is selected, the following appear
DRAM CAS Latency = 2.5
Bank Interleave = DIsabled
Precharge to Active (Trp) = 3T
Active to Precharge (Tras) = 6T
Active to CMD (Trcd) = 3T
DDR DQS Input Delay = Auto (If Manuel
Input Delay Value = 24
DDR DQS Output Delay = Auto (if Manuel
Output Delay Value = 40
MD Drive strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
DIMM 1 & 2 CMD Drive Strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
DIMM 3 & 4 CMD Drive Strength = Auto (or Low, Med. High)
Enhanced DRAM Performance = Disabled
DRAM Acess = 3T
DRAM Queue Depth = 2 level
DRAM Command Rate = 2T Command
DCLK Feedback Delay = Auto (or xxxps number)
You ram timings look fine, but you could try one stick at a time to see if it makes any difference - perhaps one stick is bad? But it's possible that a the (or any) game could be heating the video card up enough to either directly cause a problem, or generating enough heat to cause the machine to freeze. Have you tried running with the case off and a floor fan blowing in? That will show if it's a heat issue or not.
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You might also bump the RAM voltage a little bit and see if that helps stabilize it. Usually a 350W Antec wouldn't have a problem with a system like you've got there.
As long as we're entertaining possibilities, check to make sure your SK-7 isn't riding up on the raised, solid-plastic end of the CPU socket a little. It should be entirely free of any contact with the CPU socket, like this, which is accomplished by unclipping that end of the heatsink and doing this.
Good luck!
As long as we're entertaining possibilities, check to make sure your SK-7 isn't riding up on the raised, solid-plastic end of the CPU socket a little. It should be entirely free of any contact with the CPU socket, like this, which is accomplished by unclipping that end of the heatsink and doing this.
Good luck!
Thanks, guys.
I'm in the basement in my computer room, nice and cool, and the case has been off for a week. Hardware Dr says 42c everytime I look at it.
Can do "one stick at a time" test. But the machine freezes half way through a virus scan! Or defraging!
And once again I'll check the heatsink placement. It's kinda buried now......
How much power does this Delta 60mm screamer take?
I'm in the basement in my computer room, nice and cool, and the case has been off for a week. Hardware Dr says 42c everytime I look at it.
Can do "one stick at a time" test. But the machine freezes half way through a virus scan! Or defraging!
And once again I'll check the heatsink placement. It's kinda buried now......
How much power does this Delta 60mm screamer take?
mechBgon
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Enough that you might want to not plug it into the motherboard A 3-pin-to-4-pin adapter allows you to power it directly from the power supply, if you're not doing that already. Come to think of it, that could be the problem... an overloaded 12V grid on the motherboard.
A 3-pin-to-4-pin adapter allows you to power it directly from the power supply, if you're not doing that already. Come to think of it, that could be the problem... an overloaded 12V grid on the motherboard.Here is something that happened to me, which might be similar. I upgraded a Pally 1600+ for a T-breb B 2600+, While at 1600 everything ran fine, 3dmark01/03 ran perfectly, and I could play IL-2 FB all day. I upgraded to a 2600+ and all of a sudden lock-ups anytime I ran any 3d apps. On 3dmark01 it would lock-up on the nature test, on 3dmark03 it would lock-up on the test 2. It would play IL-2 for about 20 minutes, and freeze. So I ran a little experiment. My 9700PRO barely got hot (the mem did a little) while run with the 1600+, with 2600+ it was almost to hot to touch (the mem that is). I went out and purchased a crystal orb, 8 copper ram sinks, and some AS3 epoxy, and that took care of the problem. Now it all runs fine.
I guess the faster CPU works your VID card harder, thus producing more heat. Since yours is overclocked, it might make matters worst.
I also went back and looked at the flow of air in the case, and added/moved the fans around, and lowered the case temps by 20 degess F. Which might of solved the problem without adding 5 pounds of metal to the vid card, but wtf, its all gravy.
I guess the faster CPU works your VID card harder, thus producing more heat. Since yours is overclocked, it might make matters worst.
I also went back and looked at the flow of air in the case, and added/moved the fans around, and lowered the case temps by 20 degess F. Which might of solved the problem without adding 5 pounds of metal to the vid card, but wtf, its all gravy.
Whoa! I can switch that nuclear-screaming (Delta) fan right away. I find it hard to believe that the voltale from the fan would be enough to overload the motherboard??
Robcy!
I'm running everything at default normal right now. No overclocking. I wanted the machine to run smoothly (ha!) for maybe 2 weeks before doing anything. Right now I have a Thermalright SK-7, AS3 with this Delta 60mm screamer keeping everything (from Hardward Dr) at 42c.
Robcy!
I'm running everything at default normal right now. No overclocking. I wanted the machine to run smoothly (ha!) for maybe 2 weeks before doing anything. Right now I have a Thermalright SK-7, AS3 with this Delta 60mm screamer keeping everything (from Hardward Dr) at 42c.
Fan has been switched to direct power connection, 3dMark03 locked immediately. Thanks for the idea anyway!
Sorry, I hate to keep answering my own questions, but for this motherboard, I've read stuff about maybe I have the wrong version / rev. / model #, whatever, to support the xp2400+ cpu? You know anything about this?
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