So I'm downstairs copying the planet of the apes VCD for a friend, and my dad walks up and says "Haven't you heard of copyright laws?" I about laughed in his face but told him it was really no big deal. What do you guys think? DO you feel guilty at all about copying movies/cds/programs? Or is this just an adult/non-techie thing? Personally, I think too many people have been making a killing off of media entertainment for too long, and it's payback time...not to mention, nobody is really losing any real profits anyways...just MHO
"haven't you heard of copyright laws"
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<< so im guess you guys are all for piracy??
who smells what i do?
bLoOoCtKy >>
Funny, I don't smell any Bloooctky right now.
>>really? its kind of like budissy
bootyissy
Uguh......its just that i and a lot of people think Copy Right laws are BS or worse. But unfortunately one cannot pick and choose which laws to follow and which not to follow!
Thus if one infinges upon some ones copy righted material it is illegal for sure! whether its moral or immoral.... its upto individuals really after all people have different morals and sense of right and wrong!
Akaz
Thus if one infinges upon some ones copy righted material it is illegal for sure! whether its moral or immoral.... its upto individuals really after all people have different morals and sense of right and wrong!
Akaz
Casual copying is acceptable to me (for home use NOT for business use).
Selling pirated software is theft and is wrong.
Posting copyrighted software/media on the internet for the world to download is wrong. Theres a difference between giving a friend a copy of a cd and handing our copies in front of the grocery store.
Selling pirated software is theft and is wrong.
Posting copyrighted software/media on the internet for the world to download is wrong. Theres a difference between giving a friend a copy of a cd and handing our copies in front of the grocery store.
Movies are to damn expensive to see first run. The actors are all overpaid, especially Mark Wahlberg, (he could have played an ape with no help). They demand 6 million or more per movie....that is crazy. they should try doing our work for a day and see if they still feel they deserve what they get paid for a movie. And those of you who say they are "artists" are nuts. I just acted like an a$$hole and didn't get paid. I am normally a nice guy. I say make enough copies to supply everyone you know with one. And then make more to give out on the corner.
no guilt, no remorse, they're not losing profit because of me, since i wouldn't have paid anyways.
i agree with gopunk, I don't have the money to go see a movie anyways....maybe if it was 3 or 4$ like it used to be, not this 7-8$ shiat... I think maybe if people keep the piracy thing going, the world will even out a little...instead of having actors getting paid millions of dollars for spending a few months on a film when it takes people like my parents who are teachers (and much more important to society) their whole lives to make that much. If only there was a way to pirate the NBA ......
it's not the actors so much as the theatres, studios, etc etc etc. they wouldn't be making the films if they weren't making a huge profit. but anyways, i still pay for my movie tickets, i just make sure to see more than one movie
<<If only there was a way to pirate the NBA>>
You could rebroadcast games without their expressed written consent.
You could rebroadcast games without their expressed written consent.
<< no guilt, no remorse, they're not losing profit because of me, since i wouldn't have paid anyways. >>
Last weekend I stole a Bentley. Hell, they didn't lose any money on me, I don't have $250 G's to spend on a car, I wouldn't have bought it anyway...
Last weekend I stole a Bentley. Hell, they didn't lose any money on me, I don't have $250 G's to spend on a car, I wouldn't have bought it anyway...
Last weekend I stole a Bentley. Hell, they didn't lose any money on me, I don't have $250 G's to spend on a car, I wouldn't have bought it anyway...
good for you, except cars take actual physical materials, whereas intellectual property doesn't. think economics. when a company produces a car, they have a marginal cost - the cost each car costs just to make (this is not counting r&d). the only marginal cost related to software, music, etc, is the cost of the packaging and the media (cds, etc). since you're not stealing these things from stores, but rather copying them, you're not causing the company to incur any additional marginal costs (assuming you would not have bought the product). there is a difference between physical and intellectual property.
good for you, except cars take actual physical materials, whereas intellectual property doesn't. think economics. when a company produces a car, they have a marginal cost - the cost each car costs just to make (this is not counting r&d). the only marginal cost related to software, music, etc, is the cost of the packaging and the media (cds, etc). since you're not stealing these things from stores, but rather copying them, you're not causing the company to incur any additional marginal costs (assuming you would not have bought the product). there is a difference between physical and intellectual property.
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1) Did you pay for the VCD? If so, why should your friend not pay for it?
why did you not just let him borrow it to view rather than copy it.
2) People have to earn a living, you can choose not to pay the cost if you feel that it is to high.
The cost of movie tickets has gone up due to the distribution costs and the facilities. Most of the workers at the theatre are only getting around min wage. The extra benifits may be the only reason that they stay.
What is the difference of asking you to do work then not get paid for it. Many small S/W companies need the license fees (from you or the distributer) topay their people and overhead. MS may seem to charge high but what about the small 1-10 people companies that put out a good product for what is considered by the market to be a fair price.
Again it goes back to the fact, that if you do not like the price, do not purchase it.
If you need to review an item, thats fine. buy it after if you feel that you are getting a value. If you do not feel that it is a value, then be honest and get rid of the item under your control by giving it away, of destroying it.
Theft is not the answer for a luxury need.
why did you not just let him borrow it to view rather than copy it.
2) People have to earn a living, you can choose not to pay the cost if you feel that it is to high.
The cost of movie tickets has gone up due to the distribution costs and the facilities. Most of the workers at the theatre are only getting around min wage. The extra benifits may be the only reason that they stay.
What is the difference of asking you to do work then not get paid for it. Many small S/W companies need the license fees (from you or the distributer) topay their people and overhead. MS may seem to charge high but what about the small 1-10 people companies that put out a good product for what is considered by the market to be a fair price.
Again it goes back to the fact, that if you do not like the price, do not purchase it.
If you need to review an item, thats fine. buy it after if you feel that you are getting a value. If you do not feel that it is a value, then be honest and get rid of the item under your control by giving it away, of destroying it.
Theft is not the answer for a luxury need.
<< it's not the actors so much as the theatres, studios, etc etc etc. they wouldn't be making the films if they weren't making a huge profit. but anyways, i still pay for my movie tickets, i just make sure to see more than one movie
>>go support small films and attend film festivals. and there is always college games...but thats pretty crooked if you have seen blue chips, u know wut im talkin bout.
booty
I think that copyright laws dont' have a big impact on our society. Not many people respect the copyright laws. Everyone ignores them and just copies music, CDs, DVDs, VCDs, etc... ignoring the copyright laws. So what is the use of them anyways? There must be a better way of penalizing people who violate the copyright laws for it to be effective in preventing people from copying these items...
The cost of movie tickets has gone up due to the distribution costs and the facilities. Most of the workers at the theatre are only getting around min wage. The extra benifits may be the only reason that they stay.
i wasn't referring to the grunts, i was referring to the people who own the theatres, production studios, etc.
Theft is not the answer for a luxury need.
at this point it is, since there is no effective deterrent. now morally, it may be wrong, but logistically speaking, i would say it is an answer.
i wasn't referring to the grunts, i was referring to the people who own the theatres, production studios, etc.
Theft is not the answer for a luxury need.
at this point it is, since there is no effective deterrent. now morally, it may be wrong, but logistically speaking, i would say it is an answer.
I think it is funny how everyone ehre sits and tries to justify why there stealing is OK, I dont agree with the laws and I dont follow them but I know its wrong and I dont care:disgust:
<< point out where i'm wrong. >>
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Just an observation.
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To take something that should be paid for is outright stealing (theft).
Both society and the law defines this as illegal.
If you want it pay for it. Borrow it first if you need to try it out (if possible).
Are you willing to have your time and property taken from you without compensation?
If not, then why do it to some one else?
Both society and the law defines this as illegal.
If you want it pay for it. Borrow it first if you need to try it out (if possible).
Are you willing to have your time and property taken from you without compensation?
If not, then why do it to some one else?
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