have you seen browns new anti-meg ad?

[OBLAMA2009]

http://www.jerrybrown.org/brown-lays-out-sharp-contrast-billionaire-opponent-two-new-television-ads

its the second one. it makes her look pretty bad, im surprised its that direct, saying she has "bad character"

 

[Zebo]

Jerry Rules. I hope Ca makes right decision.

 

[Craig234]

The good news is, $120 million may not be enough to buy the ads needed to overcome the 'buy the office' problem. The bad news is, the election is as close as it is from the money.

Goldman Sachs - the compan I've cited for years as the poster child of problems.

CA now taxes earner income and capital gains at the same near 10%; Whitman, who reportedly gets pretty much all her income from capital gains, as do billionares generally, wants to completely eliminate the capital gains tax. I heard her sales pitch for doing so includes lies as well.

For example, saying she wants to 'align CA with other states' on not taxing capital gains.

Now, that would be a problem if true; playing states off against each other for better policies for the rich is a common tactic already that shifts taxes from the rich to the public.

But in this case, it's just a lie - there's no state in the US that taxes earned income and not capital gains, reportedly.

Saying 'align CA with other states SOUNDS good, but when it's actually shifting taxes yet more JUST for the benefit of the rich more than any state in the country, it's a lie.

I have to wonder, what if she kept her policies for the rich secret until after the election?

 

[cubby1223]

Whitman, who reportedly gets pretty much all her income from capital gains, as do billionares generally, wants to completely eliminate the capital gains tax.

So? Does the governor have the power to enact this by him/herself? I think you need to study the fundamentals of our government a little more.

I have to wonder, what if she kept her policies for the rich secret until after the election?

Do you honestly look at Meg Whitman and see an evil entity who's primary objective is to secretly drain wealth away from "the people"?

It is interesting your choice of words, not acknowledging that "the rich" are a part of "the public"


Do you know why "the rich" are rich and you are not? Because they get on with their lives instead of burying their noses in blogs hoping the world will magically align in all sorts of hopey-changey ways. Meg Whitman became rich by running a successful company that the public likes very much, not by devoting her life to ideology and political trickery.

 

[Zebo]

Alaska, Florida, Wyoming, TX, Nevada and a few other have zero cap gains. It's not common but yeah, states game for uber rich. Hell ususally they give them tons of free land and tax breaks which end up costing more than jobs were worth.

And it's not just Billionaires... open a Mc donalds franchise or two sink every dime back into acquiring another sell all three in a couple five years.. That's a few million in your pocket taxed at only 15% period fed rate.

 

[Zebo]

So? Does the governor have the power to enact this by him/herself? I think you need to study the fundamentals of our government a little more.


Do you honestly look at Meg Whitman and see an evil entity who's primary objective is to secretly drain wealth away from "the people"?

It is interesting your choice of words, not acknowledging that "the rich" are a part of "the public"


Do you know why "the rich" are rich and you are not? Because they get on with their lives instead of burying their noses in blogs hoping the world will magically align in all sorts of hopey-changey ways. Meg Whitman became rich by running a successful company that the public likes very much, not by devoting her life to ideology and political trickery.

Gotta have balance. People providing a service people want should get rich but they should give back too to the country that made them rich. Meg wouldn't be anyone in free market Zero tax haven Rwanda.

 

[Craig234]

Alaska, Florida, Wyoming, TX, Nevada and a few other have zero cap gains.

I said, reportedly *no state that taxes earned income* does not tax cap gains. None of those states tax earned income. She wants to make CA the first - which is called 'aligning with other states'.

 

[Greenman]

Jerry Rules. I hope Ca makes right decision.

The right decision would be a write in candidate, or simply no governor at all.

 

[Craig234]

The right decision would be a write in candidate, or simply no governor at all.

Go to Somolia, your libertarian utopia.

 

[Vette73]

Jerry Rules. I hope Ca makes right decision.

I don't think Jerry rules, but compared to Meg he kinda does.

If I was in CA I either vote against Meg (i.e. Jerry) or if ANY 3rd party person had a chance of getting 10% + of the vote then they would get it.

 

[Craig234]

I don't think Jerry rules, but compared to Meg he kinda does.

If I was in CA I either vote against Meg (i.e. Jerry) or if ANY 3rd party person had a chance of getting 10% + of the vote then they would get it.

I've never seen a campaign like Brown's. He spent several months almost without a word while Whitman spent tens of millions trashing him. No ads, no events or speeches...

 

[OBLAMA2009]

it looks like brown is pretty clearly ahead now: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/05/california-governor-polls-_n_750497.html

the repubes had a choice of some legitimate candidates like campbell or mcclintock and they had to go with whitman and fiorina who are both horrible

 

[Vette73]

I've never seen a campaign like Brown's. He spent several months almost without a word while Whitman spent tens of millions trashing him. No ads, no events or speeches...

Hes limited in funds and why put your name on the line when you are either even in the polls or a little ahead.

He let Meg run wild and gave her just enough rope to hang herself, and she has done just that.

But it still amazes me that he is the best of what is up for election. I really wish a 3rd party person would be able to step up. Between Meg and Brown it seems like a Jesse Venture type could step in and win.

 

[Thump553]

I'm hoping there is a huge public backlash against these billionaires trying to buy political offices, particularly when so many of them pose as just plain folks/tea partiers. Here in CT we have Linda McMahon (wife of Vince McMahon, of WWE fame-but you never see Vince anymore-she is claiming all the credit) spending $50,000,000 of her own money running for Senate. We also have another billionaire corporate takeover artist funding his own way running for governor-that clown appears in blue jeans in every ad he has-probably the only pair of blue jeans he owns.

I'm not saying politics belongs to the professionals, but I'm sick of these Ritchie Richs trying to buy offices.

 

[Anarchist420]

I hope Jerry wins, DINOs are better than RINOs. I hope the people of California know damn well that Whitman will run up deficits and won't lower taxes any.

If only Jerry had beat Clinton in 1992 we'd be better off today. We'd have had the lowest taxes in history and the deficit capped, plus the Federal Government would probably adhere to the 10th Amendment on drugs.

 

[BoomerD]

Hes limited in funds and why put your name on the line when you are either even in the polls or a little ahead.

He let Meg run wild and gave her just enough rope to hang herself, and she has done just that.

But it still amazes me that he is the best of what is up for election. I really wish a 3rd party person would be able to step up. Between Meg and Brown it seems like a Jesse Venture type could step in and win.

Damn...we've still got Ah-nold...how much worse do we want? Jesse "The Body" Ventura was a total flop for Minnesota.

I'm not a fan of Jerry Brown, he's too liberal for this old Democrat, but he's sure a better option than Meg Whitman...

 

[Patranus]

What is Jerry Browns plan to create jobs again?

 

[JSt0rm]

What is Jerry Browns plan to create jobs again?

oh look who it is.

 

[dali71]

What is Jerry Browns plan to create jobs again?

oh look who it is.

I hear that deflection is easier than answering simple questions...

 

[JSt0rm]

I hear that deflection is easier than answering simple questions...

Really is that what you hear?

How about we know trickle down tax cuts for the wealthiest doesn't fucking work. You know the sign of stupidity is trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

[JSt0rm]

oh I see you are from Tennessee. Just know we here in California pay the federal government more then we receive. However you and your state receive more then you pay into the system. In other words, stfu. When your state (read: never) and the people in it actually are able to produce something of value then maybe you can talk about "creating jobs". The problem is all the intelligent people in tennessee LEAVE.

 

[Patranus]

Really is that what you hear?

How about we know trickle down tax cuts for the wealthiest doesn't fucking work. You know the sign of stupidity is trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

When it costs the owner +20% more to operate a business in CA compared to other states why would that business owner expand inside of CA?

(Hint: there is a reason California has higher unemployment than say....Texas)

 

[JSt0rm]

When it costs the owner +20% more to operate a business in CA compared to other states why would that business owner expand inside of CA?

(Hint: there is a reason California has higher unemployment than say....Texas)

Do you think it may have to do with the large energy industry in Texas that has been immune to the downturn in society? And I don't take numbers on faith from you.

 

[xj0hnx]

Lol @ "shouldn't character matter" ...why start now? A former Goldman Saks employee? Sounds like she would be right at home in with the Obama administration.

 

[Patranus]

Do you think it may have to do with the large energy industry in Texas that has been immune to the downturn in society? And I don't take numbers on faith from you.

And why is there a large energy industry in Texas and not California?

(Hint: It starts with a "R" and ends with "egulations")