Annisman*
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So the vaccines we have for many viruses are useless?
Never said that. I'm vaccinated and so are all my kids. I don't have to be an anti vax nutter to have serious concerns over this one.
So the vaccines we have for many viruses are useless?
so the visible fact that vaccinated people become sick at a far lower rate than the unvaccinated isn’t enough trust?
Your comments certainly sounded like you are one. I'm curious can you point to a vaccine that has negative long term effects that did not show very quickly after the actual vaccination was given?Never said that. I'm vaccinated and so are all my kids. I don't have to be an anti vax nutter to have serious concerns over this one.
serious long term issues can both be true at the same time. We won't know for a while.
What? No vegan diet bullshit spewing from your ignorance?I'll just leave this here https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html
Garbage science that we've set as policy is just another reason not to trust the vaccine until it's much more mature.
Virus is gonna do what a virus does, you can't stop it, get healthy, exercise, take your vitamins.
I'm really confused as to how an article describing the ability of aerosols to remain infectious under various indoor conditions somehow relates at all the vaccine or its efficacy.
The thought process there is pretty much "I hate pineapple on pizza therefore puppies need to die."
Like WTF?
What? No vegan diet bullshit spewing from your ignorance?
Oh, and explain your stupid virus does what a virus does to smallpox, polio, Rubella, Mumps, Measles, or Rinderpest which have been eliminated through vaccines.
Why do I even bother responding to such fucking stupid people, other than perhaps they might remember this as they are being told they are going to be put on a ventilator.
I'll just leave this here https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html
Garbage science that we've set as policy is just another reason not to trust the vaccine until it's much more mature.
Virus is gonna do what a virus does, you can't stop it, get healthy, exercise, take your vitamins.
COVID vaccinated, or flu, MMR? Exactly which vaccine have you and your kids received?Never said that. I'm vaccinated and so are all my kids. I don't have to be an anti vax nutter to have serious concerns over this one.
I'll just leave this here https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html
Garbage science that we've set as policy is just another reason not to trust the vaccine until it's much more mature.
Virus is gonna do what a virus does, you can't stop it, get healthy, exercise, take your vitamins.
I'll just leave this here https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html
Garbage science that we've set as policy is just another reason not to trust the vaccine until it's much more mature.
Virus is gonna do what a virus does, you can't stop it, get healthy, exercise, take your vitamins.
Absolutely no idea what that has to do with the question of vaccines, and it's easy to say "get healthy" but that's difficult if you are already chronically ill for reasons that have nothing at all to do with lifestyle or diet.
But that's an interesting study nevertheless. I don't know why more emphasis hasn't been placed on ventilation. I had to venture into my doctor's surgery recently, and while I was the only person in the waiting area, it seemed daft to me that they had all the windows closed. They know it doesn't spread so well out-doors so why not do what you can to make the indoors more like the outdoors?
I'll just leave this here https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit...ndoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html
Garbage science that we've set as policy is just another reason not to trust the vaccine until it's much more mature.
Virus is gonna do what a virus does, you can't stop it, get healthy, exercise, take your vitamins.
I’m still feeling kinda washed out since my 2nd Moderna. Lol@wives. They can handle a lot of shit but then you have to hear about it for a long time. When hubs don’t feel good they’re like take a Tylenol and don’t be a wimp. I need you to do all this stuff for me. How many heating pads does your wife have?
I doubt it.
J&J are shipping only 3M doses this week, and possibly 20M doses at the end on the month, That's not anywhere near
what is needed to ease the shortage. But it will help. Now supposedly the Moderna and Pfizer will ship 140M doses the next 5 weeks.
But that is for just 70M people (2 doses/person)
Now we have injected about 75M people so far and that includes people with just one dose. 50M have one dose, 25M have 2 doses.
To get the 50M people with a single dose fully vaccinated, you will use up 50M of that 140M shipment(s). That leaves 90M doses for 45M people
COVID Data Tracker
CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.covid.cdc.gov
That looks like 75M plus 45M for 120M with doses form the mRNA mfgs. Now add the approx 20-23M people injected with the
one dose J&J and we possibly could have 140-143M people vaccinated by mid-late April. That's still less that 1/2 the population. (43%)
We're still at a shortage. There still won't be enough to fill the need by the end of April.
I think that that we have a ways to go before anyone that wants one can get it. Probably June or July.
And tens of millions of other Murcans, unfortunately. I blame the schools.This him:
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See commentary above regarding schools.How did you get so fucking terrible at this?
Yes but we don't know long term impact of the vaccine if any. Which is the reason why i will be holding off getting this vaccination for a while. Normally that is not a problem as it takes long time for vaccine to come to the market.We ran large, well-controlled and well-powered experiments (aka, clinical trials) to prove the efficacy of the vaccines vs placebos, but apparently, that's not enough for some people, who think some mediocre science invalidates all the science.
Okay, dummy.Yes but we don't know long term impact of the vaccine if any. Which is the reason why i will be holding off getting this vaccination for a while. Normally that is not a problem as it takes long time for vaccine to come to the market.
The vaccines being used have been in testing for nearly a year now, with exactly zero evidence for long term side effects. If your worry is that we need even more time can you point to a single vaccine that exists that has serious side effects that did not manifest within a year after injection? If not, why would these vaccines be special?Yes but we don't know long term impact of the vaccine if any. Which is the reason why i will be holding off getting this vaccination for a while. Normally that is not a problem as it takes long time for vaccine to come to the market.