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Have you ever pondered your own mortality?

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
It's so depressing to me. Yet so unthinkable. I cannot imagine what it would be like to not exist. Sometimes I don't know what to think.

Simple. Just imagine how the world was before you were born. 😛
 
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂

Just a note to others with the urge - don't turn this into a flamefest on this matter.

Mustn't......mustn't.

I won't if you won't.

If you want to do that, start a YAFF (Yet another flame fest) or YART (Yet another religion thread).

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
Originally posted by: chambersc
Every waking minute of my life I wonder why I am and how I came to be... to come from nothing (in the grand sense) is mind boggling.

Right now I'm doing some basic stuff with the quantum theory, and even at that level I think to myself how it could be even remotely possible for everything we know to have evolved. The universe is so unbelievably complex, yet at the same time so perfectly ordered that everything just points to a divine Being.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I ponder it all the time, but not in an unhealthy obsessive way. My religious beliefs are such that I spend a lot time thinking about the afterlife. Its going to be really really good for those of us who are preparing for it while there is still time...

No offense, but that strikes me as exclusionary dogmatism. I am not one of you, and my belief set, which I hold just as strongly, tells me my afterlife will be just as jolly as yours. Many believe that if you live your life preparing for death you're missing the point.

Exactly. Ned is telling us that he lost his fear of death by imagining (in conceited fashion no less) that his afterlife fate will be better than that reserved for the rest of us fools. Unfortunately, such thinking is contrary to the teachings of the faith he believes has saved him. Salvation is a gift of God.

My original statement probably needs a little more exposition, but there is nothing conceited about it, nor am I happy that many people choose to not prepare for whatever awaits us after death. But I still maintain that my original statement is true: God has prepared really great things in the afterlife for those who choose to follow Him. I don't feel guilty in any way about knowing that great things are coming to me and my fellow believers when this life is over. As you stated, salvation is a gift, but it is also a reward for believing in God and trying to live out our lives within His will. The other side of this coin is that believers should be greatly distressed that people we know won't accept this gift.
 
I have not been around too much death in my life. I don't really think much about it. I know my time will come, I just try not to worry about it.
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I ponder it all the time, but not in an unhealthy obsessive way. My religious beliefs are such that I spend a lot time thinking about the afterlife. Its going to be really really good for those of us who are preparing for it while there is still time...

No offense, but that strikes me as exclusionary dogmatism. I am not one of you, and my belief set, which I hold just as strongly, tells me my afterlife will be just as jolly as yours. Many believe that if you live your life preparing for death you're missing the point.

Exactly. Ned is telling us that he lost his fear of death by imagining (in conceited fashion no less) that his afterlife fate will be better than that reserved for the rest of us fools. Unfortunately, such thinking is contrary to the teachings of the faith he believes has saved him. Salvation is a gift of God.

My original statement probably needs a little more exposition, but there is nothing conceited about it, nor am I happy that many people choose to not prepare for whatever awaits us after death. But I still maintain that my original statement is true: God has prepared really great things in the afterlife for those who choose to follow Him. I don't feel guilty in any way about knowing that great things are coming to me and my fellow believers when this life is over. As you stated, salvation is a gift, but it is also a reward for believing in God and trying to live out our lives within His will. The other side of this coin is that believers should be greatly distressed that people we know won't accept this gift.


Exclusionary, dogmatic, pedantic, and inflammatory. Your inability to accept the beliefs of others as equal to your own limited point of view makes you someone I wouldn't want to share the afterlife with. I'll be happy to burn in your hell, than suffer in your heaven.
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
I am not afraid to die, but I am afraid of not accomplising my goals before I die.

I have not accomplished my goals; igitur, "I am afraid to die" is a true statement until such point.

I am a biochemical machine. I pray every day (don't even ask me about my philosophy on God) that we learn enough about the underlying mechanisms of consciousness, such that we be able to preserve a conscious entity before its supporting machinery wears out. I pray doubly hard that, by some miracle breakthrough, it happens in my lifetime, but I seriously think it's a real long way off.
 
sure i have thought about it. Does it scare me? not really. i know it is going to happen some day and i don't have any control over it.

 
I've considered the possibility, but I intend to slow down the wear and tear on my meaty container until sufficiently capable nanotechnology becomes available. Fortunately, as we move closer to this day, more and more preliminary technologies will become available to improve our odds of reaching it.

I'm optimistic, but the way I see it, if I'm dead I won't care... so either way really. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂

They tell you that to keep your ass in line with society. Just letting you know, you obviously failed to figure that out on your own. Don't get too excited about it.
 
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂

They tell you that to keep your ass in line with society. Just letting you know, you obviously failed to figure that out on your own. Don't get too excited about it.

We all have our own religious beliefs, jackass. You are no more right than he is.

I am not a Christian either, but you don't make fun of someone else's religion. That makes you a jackass and that's why I called you one.
 
Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂

They tell you that to keep your ass in line with society. Just letting you know, you obviously failed to figure that out on your own. Don't get too excited about it.

We all have our own religious beliefs, jackass. You are no more right than he is.

I am not a Christian either, but you don't make fun of someone else's religion. That makes you a jackass and that's why I called you one.

I'm two fuckloads more right than he is. I don't make conclusion on ancient crackpot theories.
 
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Yes I have thought about it.
One of the reasons why I'm Christian. I know there is more than just this life, there is something better coming 🙂

They tell you that to keep your ass in line with society. Just letting you know, you obviously failed to figure that out on your own. Don't get too excited about it.

We all have our own religious beliefs, jackass. You are no more right than he is.

I am not a Christian either, but you don't make fun of someone else's religion. That makes you a jackass and that's why I called you one.

I'm two fuckloads more right than he is. I don't make conclusion on ancient crackpot theories.

Crackpot theories? That would be evolution 😉
 
yes. especially when I got a chance to look at family tree on my dad's side. Oddly enough the males live to about mid 60s with only one exception.

and this was well before modern medicine, were talking 1700s/1800s and early 1900s.

even my dad died in his early 60s and he spent the last 20 years in the US with drugs and doctors widely availiable.

the only good/interesting thing was my grand daddy was a player. 3 wives. I assume the previous one died before next but he had third wife when he was in his 60s and had 3 more kids.

I accept death but do want to live to the day I have grand kids. I never knew my grandfather(either one), neither will my kid knows theirs(at least one)
 
I did when the nurse asked me my religion and then some tears flowed while in the ER during a possible heart attack as I was being injected with reteplase. They think now it wasn't one but could not be sure because my ECGs have a branch block. Spent three days in intensive care and did much thinking about the frailness and mortality of our human shell.
 
What really blows my mind is how willing we are to die. In my mind there is no doubt that if we as an entire population put our collective efforts, and massive brain power to work we could find away to eliminate death. In my mind it's simply a matter of understanding 2 concepts, and where and how they reside physiologically.

1) The Self

2) Our memory

Once we can learn how these systems work, we can begin developing better, more durable, more renewable systems for supporting them.

Here's the rub... I find it impossible to accept the concept of dying in 50-60 years. But I also find it difficult to imagine living for 10,000 years... or 100,000 years.

But it's all moot... because when you consider the gravity of death... we spend a paltry amount of our energy attempting to avoid it.

-Max
 
yea i got quite a few of my own 'crackpot' theories, and I am hella curious as to what the next stage of life holds for me. mind you, I sure as hell am not in a hurray to witness the next stage, but I am also not afraid of death. However, I would like to lead a worthwhile life, and make use of all this time spent merely learning the tools to succeed in life. lol but I am also not going to force myself to live in any certain way in hopes that the next life will be 'heavenly'. this would normally be where I'd explain my reasoning and detail those crackpot theories of my own, but alas, you don't get to see them. too long to type out, it'd be a book just explaining the damn ideas, because there are so many precursor ideas that the main ideas build on. and then I got the crazy-a$$ fictionalized world in my head that I am hopeful really exists. Maybe when I die, my soul goes into my own happy place that I create and become a god of my own world? maybe we are the creation of a dead creature's soul?
yea.... too many nights to oneself, in that state of mind certain greens help induce (at least for me) leads to strange murmurings to oneself that slowly develop into full-blown crackpot theories that take hold of your rational thought-processes, and slowly become your personal philosophies.
hmm, probably how religions start. 😉
 
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