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luv2chill

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I would love to tour Scandinavia. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to save up quite a bit of $$ because I've heard it's really expensive.

I took my first trip to Europe in August/September (England, France, Italy, Switzerland, Hungary, Austria, Germany and Netherlands) and I'm dying to go back.

One thing I do know about Sweden is lutefisk (or is it Norwegian?). Anyway, all I know is that it is disgusting!

l2c

P.S. Asha'man--how far from Stockholm is Hjortshög?
 

Moonbeam

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Sorry Thorn, those sentences are dictated to my out of the ether or somewhere and it's all I can do to just try to type what is comming in as it comes and if I was to stop and try to punctuate I'd get so far behind I'd forget what I heard and have to leave out half of what ever it was that said what ever it was.

Ornery, I hope you noticed that that huge stack of right winged propaganda you piled up there to do exactly what I said, namely to keep the US poor form finding out that there kind has been eliminated in 'real' societies, is just that a pile of verbiage compared to the statement of a actual eye witness Swede, to wit: "so I think we are coming along just fine." :D Maybe we should all take a lesson from this and try to get some direct experience of the palliatives we take for granted. Maybe too that stuff you quote is there not to keep the poor from finding out, but the fair minded better off, like yourself. I lived on a yacht in Stockholm for a month and did some sniffing around. The thing that struck me, aside from the physical beauty of really any place you go, was the obvious absence of poverty, probably the result of all the IKEA furniture including the computer chair I'm sitting on, in my house. Go Sweden!!
 

Ornery

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"...right winged propaganda..."

Huh? Theodora.com? (CIA World Fact Book) Photius.com? Emulateme.com? (World Encyclopedia) I think you Socialist guys are getting friggen paranoid anymore!

...hope the poor don't find out about it.

Even IF turning Socialist would do em any good, they're too lazy to work and too lazy to register to vote anyway. :p
 

Asha'man

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Ornery heh if you ever get over here, it'd be really nice to see ya! well that goes for all of you! Too bad to hear you lost some money over the stocks going down..but, well, you are not alone :=)

SammySon - well that is pretty much what I have heard too, I think that sweden is right behind finland and ahead of netherlands, I'm quite sure of that...pretty cool is what I think of that, exept the day they realize it's dangerous as hell...:)

Thorn - when were you over here? Where did you go? What did you think of our small country? Hope you liked it..even though we speak funny :) And what do you think about what I said before, Volvocountry? (SAABs to of course)??

Skoorb - heh that reminds me of when one of the friends I visited now in half moon was over here, twas the summer of hmmm 97 I think. When I took him to the closest beach in Helsingborg I don't think it mattered to him that swedes don't have the biggest boobs...Since quite alot of girls don't wear a top @ the beach.. :) heh. since then he has sent me a christmas card every yr asking for a swedish girl hehe

luv2chill - whoa sounds like you had quite a trip! Too bad you didn't get up here to scandinavia...!! What places did u visit? anything special? 'cause I haven't been around that much in europe I think not as much as you at least..

lutfisk argh that is a very special thing....it's a natural part of christmas meals, you take some fish (dunno what kind), then you put it in lut that's where the name comes from, naturally. Then you let it stay there for awhile. After some more preparations you eat it w/ a good sauce since the fish tastes nothing any longer. The interesting part is that I guess you never heard of lut but I'm sure you know what NaOH is. Well, they are the same thing :) Strange dish, that.

And Hjortshög :) Heh, it's a small village outside (8miles or so) the larger town Helsingborg (around 120.000 ppl there). Helsingborg borders to water and across the water (20 min on the ferry) is Denmark, the best place to get cheap beer, especially since you have to be 20 get get alcohol in sweden and you have to be born to get it in Denmark. So, the answer to where Hjortshög is compared to Stockholm, it's 600 kilometers and what, how many miles. DAMN I've forgotten how to convert km -> mi. damn. anyway, Hjortshög is all the way in the southern sweden and Stockholm is pretty much in the middle, on the other side of the country.

Moonbeam - well actually, it was a little amazing to realize (it is every time I get over to the US) how many really poor people there is. Imho I think it is a little sad that there is no way for the your system to help these ppl. But then on the other hand, sweden is just a small country. But still. But I'm not saying (and I never will) that either system is better. Because there are of course pros and cons. But for an average person, I don't think it differs that much actually, since for example, you pay for really expensive health insurances and we pay the same thing through taxes. BUT if I was rich I'd prefer living in the states and if I was poor I'd definately prefer sweden. Again, pros and cons.

But HEY! A month on a yaht in Stockholm!! That sounds really nice! how did you get there?
and yes, IKEA is kind of part of the swedish soul...most swedes have a lot of that kind of furniture at home. well it's cheap and usually pretty good. it's almost a national movement:)



me and my friend were 19 when we took this little trip, and a funny thing is that I made most of that money at one of Helsingborgs McDonald's.....hehe

gotta sleep...zzzz

cya

Asha'man
 

Moonbeam

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Ornery, the real question is whether you feel good that things in Sweden are reported good or whether you really wish to hear the opposite. Go with the truth even if it hurts. Acourse, what is the truth? Asha'man, It's kind of a long story how I got here and right now people are pushing me to get off the computer so we can take them to, you guessed it IKEA.
 

Asha'man

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Viper-Frag hehe I was waiting for that one! It is, if not the most, at the very top exports keeping $$$ and £££ and ??? rolling into sweden...:)

and strangely enough, I like it! (ok not so strange)

Asha'man
 

Ornery

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To me it's great that honest, hard working taxpayers like Asha'man aren't feeling the pinch of "cuts in welfare benefits, subsidies..." Those cuts will, and probably are, helping their whole economy.

As it is now, my employer is paying the premium on my heath care. It's a LOT too. If I could have that money to apply to health coverage of my own choosing, I'd do it differently. I'd try to pay a far lower premium strictly for coverage of catastrophic illness. I'd pay as I go for Dr. visits, child birth etc.

I think if everybody did that, there would be far less abuse by doctors and patients. Probably would work the same way for prescriptions. Nobody "shops around" for lowest price when they only have a co-pay, eh?

And what to do about the litigation part of it? Perhaps another thread...
 

Thorn

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Volvocountry? Yep it sure was. :) I saw a considerable amount of Saabs too (and even some BMWs and Mercedes). What surprised me was the blue `69 Mustang fastback (with a built up big block V8) I saw on the expressway outside of Stockholm... I didn't expect to see an American muscle car so far away from home.

I spent most of my time in Stockholm, and I have to say that I was really blown away by the architecture and the friendliness of the people (especially compared to Paris, they have to be the rudest b@$t@&%$ I've ever met :|).

I'd really love to go back to Sweden again some day, I had a great time.
 

gUEv

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i heard somewhere that swedish women have the smallest average cup size out of all european countries?
 

Wangel

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Look through your old records and find the one ABBA. Look over the pictures on the album and then think about a whole country of women who look like this.
 

Eug

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OK, what's that alcohol that's clear pinkish. I think it was some sort of Swedish schnapps or something but you can't get it here in Canada. Mmmm... Very good with crayfish (from Ikea of all places) as you suck the juice out of their bellies, wearing stupid party hats and singing songs that make no sense to you... :p


<< Is sweden or netherlands one of THE most wired countries. As in cell and wireless communication use. >>

Heheh. Last I checked, cellular and wireless communication don't use wires. ;)