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LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
You made the mistake of discussing religion. That is a NO-NO along with discussing politics. Crap, you discussed both!

nothing of religion mentioned...?

You are not a quick one, are you?

sweet insult, but anyway, if you are saying global warming is a religious issue i dont see how it is. All i see it as is a political topic.

Now this is funny.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
You made the mistake of discussing religion. That is a NO-NO along with discussing politics. Crap, you discussed both!

nothing of religion mentioned...?

You are not a quick one, are you?

sweet insult, but anyway, if you are saying global warming is a religious issue i dont see how it is. All i see it as is a political topic.

And that's what's sad about the whole thing - everyone sees it as a political issue and listens to their politicians of choice. Democrats think it does exist and is caused by humans, and Republicans either think it doesn't exist or it isn't caused by humans. It's right down party lines. But it's not a political issue, it's a scientific issue! (with obvious political repercussions) You can't tell me that all of the Republicans and all of the Democrats have evaluated all of the evidence and their conclusions just happened to follow party lines. People DO listen more to politicians than to scientists when it comes to global warming. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 

TehMac

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I think we should look at data and facts not presented by the majority of either politicians or scientists. Both want money.
 

djheater

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Mar 19, 2001
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As I age I've come to find the position of the students that the professor is chastising less and less defensible. Young people seem to think the professor is a paragon of pedagogical decorum and would never lower themselves to plebian vanity.

I'm here to tell you, Prof's are people, they're often idealistic and self-abosrbed. You enter into the bear pit when you go to class, don't intentionally prod them and you'll come out un-mauled.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
You made the mistake of discussing religion. That is a NO-NO along with discussing politics. Crap, you discussed both!

nothing of religion mentioned...?

You are not a quick one, are you?

sweet insult, but anyway, if you are saying global warming is a religious issue i dont see how it is. All i see it as is a political topic.

And that's what's sad about the whole thing - everyone sees it as a political issue and listens to their politicians of choice. Democrats think it does exist and is caused by humans, and Republicans either think it doesn't exist or it isn't caused by humans. It's right down party lines. But it's not a political issue, it's a scientific issue! (with obvious political repercussions) You can't tell me that all of the Republicans and all of the Democrats have evaluated all of the evidence and their conclusions just happened to follow party lines. People DO listen more to politicians than to scientists when it comes to global warming. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

i am not saying i agree with it being all politics, im just saying that the most recent news is all politically biased.
 

Eeezee

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Jul 23, 2005
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Everyone laughed at you because YOU ARE WRONG. I don't even need to talk about chemistry, a little basic knowledge of planetary science will do the trick.

The science behind man's impact on global warming is not that hard to understand. Let's take Venus as an example. There is good evidence that Venus was much like Earth, with bodies of water and plate tectonics, but it experienced a runaway greenhouse effect. Too much CO2 was being added to the atmosphere, causing the planet to warm up to the conditions we see today; we can't even land anything on the surface because inside the dense CO2 cloud the planet is just too hot. As the planet heated up, more liquid water became vapor, heating the planet more, vaporizing more water, etc. until the planet was what we see today. The far side of Venus is much hotter than the far side of Mercury, and the relative atmosphere densities is the reason for this.

Mars had basically the opposite effect, there wasn't enough CO2 production and not enough water vapor to maintain a good greenhouse. Eventually more water kept freezing, thus further cooling the planet, causing more water to freeze, etc.

Humans produce a large volume of CO2, a known greenhouse gas, and the production of CO2 does warm the planet. It doesn't matter whether or not we know how much warmth we are creating, but humans definitely warm the planet via carbon emissions. To deny that we have any impact is ignoring the facts. There's no way to know for sure how much hotter the planet is now than it would have been without our carbon emissions. It's impossible to know whether Earth is going through a natural cooling or natural warming phase right now because you generally can't measure these things on a day to day basis; the sample size is not large enough to come to any conclusions.
 

Flyback

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There are many things in life that aren't spoken of but are pretty much understood.

One of them is that you never question or deviate from a prof's views. While I applaud standing up and all that, it's much easier to let them sit in their own filth believing the crap that they do and keeping yourself safe (and coming out with your original A or B+). It's akin to being pulled over by a cop. While you can get dicks who write you up for 5 things after pulling you over and just needed an excuse, you still respond like a stupid little tard with "yes officer" "no officer" "sure thing officer".

Learn to choose your battles in life. Profs certainly aren't worth the battles. Get your degree and move on ;)
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Everyone laughed at you because YOU ARE WRONG. I don't even need to talk about chemistry, a little basic knowledge of planetary science will do the trick.

The science behind man's impact on global warming is not that hard to understand. Let's take Venus as an example. There is good evidence that Venus was much like Earth, with bodies of water and plate tectonics, but it experienced a runaway greenhouse effect. Too much CO2 was being added to the atmosphere, causing the planet to warm up to the conditions we see today; we can't even land anything on the surface because inside the dense CO2 cloud the planet is just too hot. As the planet heated up, more liquid water became vapor, heating the planet more, vaporizing more water, etc. until the planet was what we see today. The far side of Venus is much hotter than the far side of Mercury, and the relative atmosphere densities is the reason for this.

Mars had basically the opposite effect, there wasn't enough CO2 production and not enough water vapor to maintain a good greenhouse. Eventually more water kept freezing, thus further cooling the planet, causing more water to freeze, etc.

Humans produce a large volume of CO2, a known greenhouse gas, and the production of CO2 does warm the planet. It doesn't matter whether or not we know how much warmth we are creating, but humans definitely warm the planet via carbon emissions. To deny that we have any impact is ignoring the facts. There's no way to know for sure how much hotter the planet is now than it would have been without our carbon emissions. It's impossible to know whether Earth is going through a natural cooling or natural warming phase right now because you generally can't measure these things on a day to day basis; the sample size is not large enough to come to any conclusions.
Sort of a nitpick thing, you were right about Venus and Mars coming to be how they are, but there were probes that landed on Venus and even sent pictures back. But it is one hot motherfscker.
 

Auryg

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Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Flyback
There are many things in life that aren't spoken of but are pretty much understood.

One of them is that you never question or deviate from a prof's views. While I applaud standing up and all that, it's much easier to let them sit in their own filth believing the crap that they do and keeping yourself safe (and coming out with your original A or B+). It's akin to being pulled over by a cop. While you can get dicks who write you up for 5 things after pulling you over and just needed an excuse, you still respond like a stupid little tard with "yes officer" "no officer" "sure thing officer".

Learn to choose your battles in life. Profs certainly aren't worth the battles. Get your degree and move on ;)

I don't know if I agree with this, atleast in some instances. I recently had a paper that I got a bad grade on (a C+), where the last paper I wrote the prof told me that I had some of the best writing he's ever seen, and I got an A.

The difference? I didn't agree with the book. Keep in mind the assignment was a "thought paper."

I called him out on it (in private), he tore into me, and I defended myself. He raised the grade.

I had the same thing happen in a religion class, but that time I didn't think it was worth fighting over.
 

Auryg

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Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Everyone laughed at you because YOU ARE WRONG. I don't even need to talk about chemistry, a little basic knowledge of planetary science will do the trick.

The science behind man's impact on global warming is not that hard to understand. Let's take Venus as an example. There is good evidence that Venus was much like Earth, with bodies of water and plate tectonics, but it experienced a runaway greenhouse effect. Too much CO2 was being added to the atmosphere, causing the planet to warm up to the conditions we see today; we can't even land anything on the surface because inside the dense CO2 cloud the planet is just too hot. As the planet heated up, more liquid water became vapor, heating the planet more, vaporizing more water, etc. until the planet was what we see today. The far side of Venus is much hotter than the far side of Mercury, and the relative atmosphere densities is the reason for this.

Mars had basically the opposite effect, there wasn't enough CO2 production and not enough water vapor to maintain a good greenhouse. Eventually more water kept freezing, thus further cooling the planet, causing more water to freeze, etc.

Humans produce a large volume of CO2, a known greenhouse gas, and the production of CO2 does warm the planet. It doesn't matter whether or not we know how much warmth we are creating, but humans definitely warm the planet via carbon emissions. To deny that we have any impact is ignoring the facts. There's no way to know for sure how much hotter the planet is now than it would have been without our carbon emissions. It's impossible to know whether Earth is going through a natural cooling or natural warming phase right now because you generally can't measure these things on a day to day basis; the sample size is not large enough to come to any conclusions.

*sigh* Look up Richard Lindzen. He write a lot of op-eds.

I'm not going to bother. Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas. But the scientific models don't match up, and just..go read. Read the other side. I started on the human global warming side, and now I've switched due to research. I advise you to do the same if you're going to go around talking about it.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Ronstang
You made the mistake of discussing religion. That is a NO-NO along with discussing politics. Crap, you discussed both!

nothing of religion mentioned...?

You are not a quick one, are you?

sweet insult, but anyway, if you are saying global warming is a religious issue i dont see how it is. All i see it as is a political topic.

And that's what's sad about the whole thing - everyone sees it as a political issue and listens to their politicians of choice. Democrats think it does exist and is caused by humans, and Republicans either think it doesn't exist or it isn't caused by humans. It's right down party lines. But it's not a political issue, it's a scientific issue! (with obvious political repercussions) You can't tell me that all of the Republicans and all of the Democrats have evaluated all of the evidence and their conclusions just happened to follow party lines. People DO listen more to politicians than to scientists when it comes to global warming. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

i am not saying i agree with it being all politics, im just saying that the most recent news is all politically biased.

I figured you didn't mean it the way it sounded, but I took the opportunity to rant about something that really bugs me. :D
 

Flyback

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Sep 20, 2006
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Originally posted by: Auryg
Originally posted by: Flyback
There are many things in life that aren't spoken of but are pretty much understood.

One of them is that you never question or deviate from a prof's views. While I applaud standing up and all that, it's much easier to let them sit in their own filth believing the crap that they do and keeping yourself safe (and coming out with your original A or B+). It's akin to being pulled over by a cop. While you can get dicks who write you up for 5 things after pulling you over and just needed an excuse, you still respond like a stupid little tard with "yes officer" "no officer" "sure thing officer".

Learn to choose your battles in life. Profs certainly aren't worth the battles. Get your degree and move on ;)

I don't know if I agree with this, atleast in some instances. I recently had a paper that I got a bad grade on (a C+), where the last paper I wrote the prof told me that I had some of the best writing he's ever seen, and I got an A.

The difference? I didn't agree with the book. Keep in mind the assignment was a "thought paper."

I called him out on it (in private), he tore into me, and I defended myself. He raised the grade.

I had the same thing happen in a religion class, but that time I didn't think it was worth fighting over.

Those kinds of profs you know will bend or at least be moderate in views. Many a time you can tell, though, that the profs (when salivating and cumming at their own lecture) will not sway or even be approachable. I guess I find that I can read profs easily enough. I found 1 decent prof to 4 dicks, usually.