Have you ever been to jail/prison and what was it like?

[tcsenter]

We get these threads from time to time but damnit nobody ever pipes up. Let's have another go at it. If you've ever been to jail/prison for any period of time (a night in drunk tank doesn't count but a couple of weeks would) what was it like and why were you there? The more details the better!

How about a couple different stays in the drunk tank overnight? Frequency doesn't count as much as longevity? 😀

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Jehovah

Originally posted by: justint

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA
My impression: they have more rights than you or I.

come on now CPA, you can't be serious

Yes, I am.

Let me ask you this:

Do you have a right to free medical care?

Do you have a right to free dental care?

Do you have a right to sunlight?

Do you have a right to three Nutritionist certified meals?

Do you have a right to free Legal Counsel?

Do you have a right to cable TV?

Do you have a right to free access to recreations facilities (weight room, games, etc.)?

Do you have a right to free counseling?

Do you have a right to many free hygenic products?

Do you have a right to purchase commisary products (some, not all) at cost?


None of these are rights for you and me, they are privelages if we pay for them. And at a Federal Prison for white coller crime, there are even better systems. My boss worked at one and at times, could not tell the difference between a prisoner and a staff person.

Well as you are being isolated by society as punishment/rehabilitation for your crime it is the responsibility of the state to take care of your basic needs such as food,medical care, etc. Some of the other stuff you mention may sound like luxuries, but they are also valuable tools for the staff to maintain control of the prison. Remember, they could take over any time they wanted to if they wished.

Would you rather our prisons be like third world countries where they cram hundreds of people to small rooms and the only food you get is what your family brings you??

You are also forgetting the part about...ohhh being a PRISONER!!!!!!!!!!!

Cable TV is a basic right?😕

At the private prison I worked at it was. We had a contract with the State of Texas and it called for certain recreational activites to be available, one of which was cable TV. In fact, it was satellite TV, and no, not Directv or Dishnetwork, I mean one that could access one of the 13 or so satellites circiling the globe at that time.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA
My impression: they have more rights than you or I.

come on now CPA, you can't be serious

Yes, I am.

Let me ask you this:

Do you have a right to free medical care?

Do you have a right to free dental care?

Do you have a right to sunlight?

Do you have a right to three Nutritionist certified meals?

Do you have a right to free Legal Counsel?

Do you have a right to cable TV?

Do you have a right to free access to recreations facilities (weight room, games, etc.)?

Do you have a right to free counseling?

Do you have a right to many free hygenic products?

Do you have a right to purchase commisary products (some, not all) at cost?


None of these are rights for you and me, they are privelages if we pay for them. And at a Federal Prison for white coller crime, there are even better systems. My boss worked at one and at times, could not tell the difference between a prisoner and a staff person.

You forgot that big right
sh!t, whats it called....
um...
oh yeah!
FREEDOM

Freedom is not a right, again it is a privelage, you usually pay for. You do not have the Freedom to do anything you want.

What are you trying to say? I realise that one's freedoms are not unlimited, but you sure as hell have a lot more freedom outside the prison walls than you do inside. While you may be correct in that you have more rights, but I think the fundemental "priveledge"😉 that you loose when you go to prison far far outweighs the others that you may gain.

My point is the "priveledge" that you "lose" 😉 is only replaced with things that you and I don't have a right to in the outside world. A prison should not afford you rights that you otherwise wouldn't receive if you weren't a criminal.

 

[chiwawa626]

Originally posted by: ivol07
NOT FUN. They treat you like your guilty of everything. Made me realize whatever I was doing was not worth going back to that place. It's not supposed to be fun, and it wasn't. I was in for selling weed. I was 17. Haven't been in trouble since. Now I'm a snazzy web developer, even tho I might be making more money doing what I was doing. Wait! I can't think like that!

NOT FUN.

I suppose you were the pounded not the pound'ee.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

I doubt too many people commit crimes thinking "hey, if I get caught, I get to stay in the luxury hotel with the bill footed by uncle sam"
Back in the old west, if you stole someones cow you would be hung you on the spot. People still stole cattle though

let me sum it up with a quick, very true story.

We released a prisoner who had served his time. Three days later he knocked on the front door (we had no fencing, medium security prison) and asked for the Assistant Warden (my boss). He proceeded to ask the asst. warden if he could "come back in to the prison"! He was used to the meals, warmth and comfort the prison afforded him. Fortunately the asst. warden told him to get the hell out of here.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tweakmm

I doubt too many people commit crimes thinking "hey, if I get caught, I get to stay in the luxury hotel with the bill footed by uncle sam"
Back in the old west, if you stole someones cow you would be hung you on the spot. People still stole cattle though

let me sum it up with a quick, very true story.

We released a prisoner who had served his time. Three days later he knocked on the front door (we had no fencing, medium security prison) and asked for the Assistant Warden (my boss). He proceeded to ask the asst. warden if he could "come back in to the prison"! He was used to the meals, warmth and comfort the prison afforded him. Fortunately the asst. warden told him to get the hell out of here.

I thought that this was a document phenomena? Prison provides people with a very very structured life, inmates grow dependent upon the structure and when they are released into the "real world" they don't feel comfortable with controlling their own life. Haven't you seen Shawshank Redemption? I think your story has less to do with the amenities of prison and more to do the institutionalism of the joint.

I ran spell check just for you CPA and at least I know how to not delete one of the quote tags to screw up the formating of the thread😛

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tweakmm

I doubt too many people commit crimes thinking "hey, if I get caught, I get to stay in the luxury hotel with the bill footed by uncle sam"
Back in the old west, if you stole someones cow you would be hung you on the spot. People still stole cattle though

let me sum it up with a quick, very true story.

We released a prisoner who had served his time. Three days later he knocked on the front door (we had no fencing, medium security prison) and asked for the Assistant Warden (my boss). He proceeded to ask the asst. warden if he could "come back in to the prison"! He was used to the meals, warmth and comfort the prison afforded him. Fortunately the asst. warden told him to get the hell out of here.

I thought that this was a document phenomena? Prison provides people with a very very structured life, inmates grow dependent upon the structure and when they are released into the "real world" they don't feel comfortable with controlling their own life. Haven't you seen Shawshank Redemption? I think your story has less to do with the amenities of prison and more to do the institutionalism of the joint.

Well, the warmth and comfort could be part of the institutionalism of the joint, or he was cold and hungry and felt prison was his best option.

Either way the institutionalism is designed from the amenities and "rights" afforded to the prisoners. The less that is given, the less likely the structured life of the prison is welcoming.

And no, I didn't see Shawshank Redemption.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: CPA

I ran spell check just for you CPA and at least I know how to not delete one of the quote tags to screw up the formating of the thread😛

Whatchu talking about Willis?


😛

 

[ivol07]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: ivol07
NOT FUN. They treat you like your guilty of everything. Made me realize whatever I was doing was not worth going back to that place. It's not supposed to be fun, and it wasn't. I was in for selling weed. I was 17. Haven't been in trouble since. Now I'm a snazzy web developer, even tho I might be making more money doing what I was doing. Wait! I can't think like that!

NOT FUN.

I suppose you were the pounded not the pound'ee.

No, there was no pounding going on. At least not around me.

The only thing that was like that was when they took my fingerprints they put on rubber gloves to do it. But I didn't know that. All they did was put the gloves on look at us lined up and say "who wants to go firtst". I thought it was for a cavity check or some sh!t! I said "this guy" and pointed to the guy next to me.