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Have U.S. schools gotten any better than in this video?
- Thread starter Skyclad1uhm1
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Triumph
Lifer
Lowering of expectations. We've set the bar so low for what it takes to "succeed" (i.e. passing grade) in school that kids just aren't challeneged enough. I doubt it's any better today than when this program aired.
Washington DC spends twice as much per student as the schools in my county (just outside DC), yet by every measurable virtue, they are the worse school. Money isn't the solution.
Washington DC spends twice as much per student as the schools in my county (just outside DC), yet by every measurable virtue, they are the worse school. Money isn't the solution.
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
Here they close down schools that do not perform well enough. If the results are below standards and they fail to improve in a certain time they are forced to close.
That's something they should do in the US too. Instead of just giving them more money without looking at the cause of the problems.
That's something they should do in the US too. Instead of just giving them more money without looking at the cause of the problems.
TraumaRN
Diamond Member
See the problem is....you are making good sense. We have little of that when it comes to education in the US.
It continues in college/university too. Why in nursing school are we taught 2 entire semester long classes on theory, yet we spent all of 1 lecture in 4 years on heart disease which is the number 1 killer of people in this country? :disgust:
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
22 mins in the video: A kid getting the answers from the teacher so he can pass... Good way to learn :disgust:
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
What DO they spend the time on then?
TraumaRN
Diamond Member
Like I said in my previous post, nursing theory...which is BS. We had 2 entire classes on nursing theory! Then most stupidness, was having 2 entire classes on how to do proper research. No joke.
Most of us will never ever use nursing theory to any great extent.
Or better yet why did we spend only 7 weeks on pharmacology when we have to deal with medications every day?
ForumMaster
Diamond Member
i was in a relatively good place where i learned (Montgomery county) and the work there was relatively easy. i left after 7th grade and jumped 8th and went right into 9th when we returned to Israel. i didn't find the work challenging until 11th. the problem with teaching is that it's too easy to become a teacher. here at least, you don't even have to pass almost any tests to become a teacher.
recently, a countrywide exam for the teachers was held. it was elementary school math and the average was 61! i live in a good part of Israel and my school is considered one of the best in the area. this is also cause my school isn't completely public so it has more money. it's no surprise that private schools are much better.
recently, a countrywide exam for the teachers was held. it was elementary school math and the average was 61! i live in a good part of Israel and my school is considered one of the best in the area. this is also cause my school isn't completely public so it has more money. it's no surprise that private schools are much better.
waggy
No Lifer
yah it was bad when i was in school (almost 15 years ago). it scares me how bad it could be when my kids go to school. Only positive is its a small school and the teachers are pretty good. only bad part is there are no advanced classes.
well its good until highschool.
the highschool the kids will have to go to sucks. we are planning to move by then or put them in a private school.
well its good until highschool.
the highschool the kids will have to go to sucks. we are planning to move by then or put them in a private school.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
Wow, I thought YouTube had a ten minute limit on uploads or something similar. Going to take a while to download this.
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
Ah, overlooked that yes 😀
Indeed, one would expect (or should I say demand?) more education on those things.
Fear this video btw (linked when watching the previous one):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1qee-bTZI&mode=related&search=
School books saying kids do not need to learn basic maths because they can use a calculator instead...
BladeVenom
Lifer
That video is actually showing the better schools. The ones that are below average won't allow any cameras in them.
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
Btw, may be nice to know that Belgium (which they used to compare European education to US education) scored below average when they compared the IQ of European countries. Belgium got 99 and France 94, while Germany and the Netherlands both got 107. The English had 100.
If they made school more interesting then kids would learn better. I LOVED history, why? My teacher was funny as hell and would make it interesting not just hey read this and that and get this section quiz done. Teachers need to adjust to kids shorter attention spans. I'm in my college programming class and I almost fall asleep because it's sooooooo boring it's unreal. I barely stay awake because he essentially just reading away from a book and doesn't really care. Even during high schools all teachers wanted was kids to pass so they wouldn't have to see them next semester, while some teachers are good some just really suck. My computer teacher in high school came to class late and left early. Whenever I would ask a question about flash or something she would run out of the class and get student who knew all this (This student was later busted for making fake ID's) *cough*
Anyway the point is school is boring, I remember my history class a lot just because of how well it was taught, my English class cool the last 2 years because the teacher was good, other then that I slimmed by with B's because the teachers "Curved" tests for everyone.
Anyway the point is school is boring, I remember my history class a lot just because of how well it was taught, my English class cool the last 2 years because the teacher was good, other then that I slimmed by with B's because the teachers "Curved" tests for everyone.
Goosemaster
Lifer
I too thought it had limits. Came up on a few long videos today...weird.
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
They discuss that in the video too. Extra money should go to better salaries for better teachers, rather than to expensive buildings, expensive facitilies, and lots of lesser qualified personnel.
CptObvious
Platinum Member
I must be getting old (at 26), but I think it's due to a lack of discipline in our culture. Parents don't instill in their kids a sense of accountability for doing well and behaving right, while the teachers can't discipline the students because they'll be hit with lawsuits. As a result the school systems are blamed for not making the material more appealing.
I still think the biggest problems are with the parents. If they don't teach their kids the values that being intelligent and succeeding are good things, rather than coddling their stupidity, it's beyond the school system to try to fix that.
I still think the biggest problems are with the parents. If they don't teach their kids the values that being intelligent and succeeding are good things, rather than coddling their stupidity, it's beyond the school system to try to fix that.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
That is crazy that so many parents want their kids to go to schools in that one district that they have to send out an inspector to make sure you live in that district. Going through the girl's dresser drawers in her bedroom is just creepy.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
I do know that a friend's mother has said her grandkids will never go to public school. She is a teacher at a public high school, and has said if the kids don't go to a private school, she will retire and teach them herself.
I like the idea of attaching the money to the kids, so the parents can use it to send the child where they want to.
I like the idea of attaching the money to the kids, so the parents can use it to send the child where they want to.
JackOfHearts
Senior member
The only thing wrong with schools is Kids now don't care. I was talking to a kid who makes 20k+ a month at age 15 selling drugs... Why would he care about school? A HS Diploma get's him minimum wage job....
moshquerade
No Lifer
" chfyak (44 minutes ago)
I don't think America has the worse schools, only the best news coverage. You could find these problems in every country. China? ha ha, like you'd ever see a news report like this from China."
moshquerade
No Lifer
bullshit
Skyclad1uhm1
Lifer
20k+ a month? Hmm, that sounds like a nice job, are there any vacancies in the region? 😀
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