Have female gymnasts changed since I was younger?

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Via

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I'm not a gymastics fan, but sometimes I'll watch it when the olympics come around. I thought I remember them being extremely slender and graceful, like ballerinas. Shannon Miller is one of the first I remember:

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When she came down after a jump you could barely hear it.

I just watched a routine on TV, and these girls are shaped like mini linebackers. I think this is the girl I saw:

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Has something changed in gymnastics over the years? Are the girls older now? Or is the feeling that increased muscle mass is a good thing and allows for more extreme moves?

I haven't seen a routine during these olympic trials I would describe as graceful. Don't get me wrong - there's nothing wrong with a healthy woman, but these gymnasts nowadays don't seem to be able to keep their balance very well despite all of the athletic things they can do.

Every routine seems full of waggles and corrections.
 
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waggy

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seemed they had the fucking mic right next to it. They did say the stuff the girls are doing today is far harder then they did years ago. but i was not impressed with how the girls did on the balance beam.

the floor they did a lot better.

and yes it sure does seem they are so much more muscled then they used to be.
 
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waggy said:
very beautiful and graceful but saying that it as not very technically hard. i think that is where it comes in.

the routines that some do today are far harder and take more power.
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true - grace and form has lost out to technical difficulty
 
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BladeVenom

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Shanon Miller's American rival in 92 was Kim Zmeskal.

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I think Mary Lou Retton was also bulkier than Shanon Miller.

Something else that has changed is the age. Shanon Miller was 15 in her 1st Olympics, and some of the other were 14. Now 16 is the minimum age for the Olympics.
 
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and look at shawn johnson. built like Ram Man, one olympics and she's burned out. has joint problems fitting a 60 year old.
 
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It has everything to do with all the hormones they inject in cows for milk / increased meat production. And chickens, turkeys and bananas. Minus the milk part. And minus the banana part.

/tinfoilhat
 
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BladeVenom said:
Shanon Miller's American rival in 92 was Kim Zmeskal.

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I think Mary Lou Retton was also bulkier than Shanon Miller.

Something else that has changed is the age. Shanon Miller was 15 in her 1st Olympics, and some of the other were 14. Now 16 is the minimum age for the Olympics.
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You sure about that? US has a female swimmer that is 15.
 
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I don't follow women's gymnastics. Though, I have attended a few University meets. Decades ago, when I was an undergrad had a friend that was an all-american. (On the cover of the brochure for one of the All American Meets even.)

With any sport, such as women's gymnastics, that employs judges, I would expect that there would be trends that the judges would reward. And that, over time, those trends would evolve.

So, in response to the OP, I would expect that the sport would evolve over time. Whether or not the athletes are more muscular now, I couldn't say. Though, that certainly seems to be the trend in many of the mens sports.

Uno
 
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Via

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It definitely seems to have evolved in a certain direction.

Maybe it's been going on for a while (I don't really know), but the change in body type and resultant loss of "grace" really struck me while I was watching today.
 
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Considering that they start training at an early age and probably have better food/diet/regimen, yes they are physically better than those in the 70s/80s/early 90s. If they want to be in the Olympics (their ultimate goal), they usually have 3 chances to qualify for their country or even be qualified for the Olympic trials. At ages 16, 20, then 24 if they are lucky. Beyond that age they will have better/younger competitors.
 
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Knowing nothing of gymnastics, I would hypothesize that it's due to a change in training methods and nutrition. In the past they probably only training by actually doing gymnastics. Now they likely incorporate weight training, plyometrics, and other modern methods.
 
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The male ones look like they could try out for Mr. Olympia
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The female ones should have breast implants. That would sure up the challenge.
 
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ShawnD1 said:
The male ones look like they could try out for Mr. Olympia
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The female ones should have breast implants. That would sure up the challenge.
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have you watched male gymnastics? they are all in amazing shape. but then the things they do are flat out amazing. LOTS of strength moves.
 
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SKORPI0 said:
If they want to be in the Olympics (their ultimate goal), they usually have 3 chances to qualify for their country or even be qualified for the Olympic trials. At ages 16, 20, then 24 if they are lucky. Beyond that age they will have better/younger competitors.
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I'd say at 16, and 20 if they are lucky. None of the gymnasts from 2008 were able to make the team. 24 seems to be too old.

2012 Team:
Jordyn Wieber 16
Gabrielle Douglas 16
McKayla Maroney 16
Aly Raisman 18
Kyla Ross 15 (She'll be 16 in time)
 
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