Have anyone here seen Four Hours In My Lai on Youtube?

[iGas]

I'm at a lost for word after viewing it.


My previous perception and what I have read on the My Lai massacre lead me to belive that a some people in Charlie company were crazy and the massacre was an isolated accident combine with missed comunications between the chain of command .


My view now completely changed after I watched Four Hous In My Lai. To me the My Lai massacred weren't an isolated incident but one of possibly many more through out the wars in the last 40 years that the authority aren't fond of. IMHO, we haven't heard of other atrocities because of the media suppression from the government.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzb9DH7YAE


:'(

 

[Schadenfroh]

Lots of terrible things occurred during Vietnam, some by US and Friends, others by North Vietnam and the Vietcong. We should not white-wash history, but both sides did their wrongs. The incident at My Lai was indeed unfortunate.

Here is another horrible incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF

The Massacre at Huế (Thảm sát tại Huế Tết Mậu Thân) is the name given to describe the summary executions and mass killings conducted by the Viet Cong and North Vietnam during their capture, occupation and later withdrawal from the city of Huế during the Tet Offensive

dozens of mass graves were discovered in and around Huế containing 2,800 to 6,000 civilians and prisoners of war.[1] Victims were found bound, tortured, and sometimes apparently buried alive.

The killings were perceived as part of a large-scale purge of a whole social stratum

 

[iGas]

Lots of terrible things occurred during Vietnam, some by US and Friends, others by North Vietnam and the Vietcong. We should not white-wash history, but both sides did their wrongs. The incident at My Lai was indeed unfortunate.

Here is another horrible incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF

I agree both sides committed atrocities to the Vietnamese populace, but to my limited knowledge the Vietnamese never commit any crime against American on American soil that deserve such evil that was bestowed up on them. And, now American once again are committing crimes against humanity in Iraq even those they didn't do any wrong against American on American soil.

I'm sadden that the "greatest country" on earth spouts freedom and liberty but in turn they are the one that suppresses freedom from people that truly yearn freedom.

PS. Please explain to me why people that doesn't harm anyone beside smoking dope can get jail time, while murders & killers like Calley and Co., Nixon/Johnson & Co., Bush & Co., etc... walks freely?

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I'm at a lost for word after viewing it.


My previous perception and what I have read on the My Lai massacre lead me to belive that a some people in Charlie company were crazy and the massacre was an isolated accident combine with missed comunications between the chain of command .


My view now completely changed after I watched Four Hous In My Lai. To me the My Lai massacred weren't an isolated incident but one of possibly many more through out the wars in the last 40 years that the authority aren't fond of. IMHO, we haven't heard of other atrocities because of the media suppression from the government.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzb9DH7YAE


:'(

that sort of thing is common in war. in fact its going on everyday in afghanistan and iraq. the united states is the biggest thug/terrorist on the planet by far

 

[Danube]

If a man pushes an old lady in front of a bus to harm her - and another man pushes her out of the way of the bus to save her - I suppose technically one could say two guys were both pushing an old lady around. However after the US stopped pushing South Vietnam out of the way thousands died in purges, re-education camps, etc. Unlike the NV the US had two enemies - the NV and the liberal media that pulled the carpet from under them. My Lai is a distrsaction in the larger scheme of things and the NV did much worse to it's own people.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Blame the politicians and military leadership, not the grunts. They were merely trying to survive their tours. Poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly led, they (we) did what they thought was necessary to survive.

 

[iGas]

If a man pushes an old lady in front of a bus to harm her - and another man pushes her out of the way of the bus to save her - I suppose technically one could say two guys were both pushing an old lady around. However after the US stopped pushing South Vietnam out of the way thousands died in purges, re-education camps, etc. Unlike the NV the US had two enemies - the NV and the liberal media that pulled the carpet from under them. My Lai is a distrsaction in the larger scheme of things and the NV did much worse to it's own people.

Please do your research before claiming that American tried to save SVN from going under the bus. Instead of pushing the Vietnamese out of the bus way, they are the one that pushed the Vietnamese under the bus.

Hanoi were friendly to the American and modeled its Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam off of the the US & French declarations. In fact the US were sympathetic to Ho Chi Minh cause and treated him for malaria during its fight for independence against the French. However, Harry Truman ignored the Atlantic Charter and stabbed the Vietnamese people in the back by supported the Imperialist French.

The North & South Vietnam conflict greatly benefited the American weapon makers, over the death of 3+ millions Vietnamese, and more than 50 thousands not so blue blooded American.

[add]

Once the defined line dawned in the sand between the North & South Vietnam, John F. Kennedy staged a coup against SVN and murdered its president (Ngo Dinh Diem) to put in place a puppet government (Nguyen Van Thieu) that prepared to escalates the conflict into a full blown war. After Kennedy death (murdered by his own people) Lyndon Johnson (murderer) escalated American deployment into Vietnam, Richard Nixon (liar & murderer) were elected on the notation that he will end the draft and the Vietnam War, and then the war criminal Henry Kissinger were presented with the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[WelshBloke]

My Lai is a distraction in the larger scheme of things.

Dude they killed children! Babies.

Not by accident.

Think about that.

And you call that a distraction.

 

[boomerang]

What's the point of the thread? What's done is done.

PS. Please explain to me why people that doesn't harm anyone beside smoking dope can get jail time, while murders & killers like Calley and Co., Nixon/Johnson & Co., Bush & Co., etc... walks freely?

You know who makes the rules right?

 

[WelshBloke]

What's the point of the thread? What's done is done.

Everyone in this picture was shot

Some things should never be forgotten.

 

[boomerang]

Everyone in this picture was shot.

Some things should never be forgotten.

That's fine. No problem with that. But it's important to remember that atrocities by man towards man have occurred since humans first walked the earth. I expect them to continue until we become extinct.

It's in our nature. It's an integral part of our psyche. Life's not fair. Never has been, never will be.

 

[iGas]

What's the point of the thread? What's done is done.


You know who makes the rules right?

And let not forget so that history doesn't repeats, however it isn't so.

 

[Danube]

Dude they killed children! Babies.

Not by accident.

Think about that.

And you call that a distraction.

North Vietnam killed man many more - not by accident - think about that. They may not have died if US media didn't make Tet seem like a loss instead of a win and turn on troops. Of course the LBJ gang was also totally inept with eggheads like MacNamara

 

[Danube]

Please do your research before claiming that American tried to save SVN from going under the bus. Instead of pushing the Vietnamese out of the bus way, they are the one that pushed the Vietnamese under the bus.

Hanoi were friendly to the American and modeled its Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam off of the the US & French declarations. In fact the US were sympathetic to Ho Chi Minh cause and treated him for malaria during its fight for independence against the French. However, Harry Truman ignored the Atlantic Charter and stabbed the Vietnamese people in the back by supported the Imperialist French.

The North & South Vietnam conflict greatly benefited the American weapon makers, over the death of 3+ millions Vietnamese, and more than 50 thousands not so blue blooded American.

[add]

Once the defined line dawned in the sand between the North & South Vietnam, John F. Kennedy staged a coup against SVN and murdered its president (Ngo Dinh Diem) to put in place a puppet government (Nguyen Van Thieu) that prepared to escalates the conflict into a full blown war. After Kennedy death (murdered by his own people) Lyndon Johnson (murderer) escalated American deployment into Vietnam, Richard Nixon (liar & murderer) were elected on the notation that he will end the draft and the Vietnam War, and then the war criminal Henry Kissinger were presented with the Nobel Peace Prize.

I appreciate what your saying. I'm just more focused on My Lai as part of the war and what followed. When a military tactic includes sending troops out into the open to "draw fire" (make them targets etc) there will be people who snap. Is it a character flaw? Yes. Is it to be expected? Yes.

Most Americans fighting in Vietnam were good people put in an untenable situation by (at times) an inept gov and a traitorous media. That situation extended to some innocent Vietnamese for sure.

 

[tvarad]

And let not forget so that history doesn't repeats, however it isn't so.

At about the same time, about 3 million Bangladeshis were slaughtered at the hands of the Pakistani military and not one person has been brought to book for that crime. The killing fields of Cambodia claimed millions of lives. Mao's cultural revolution did the same. Pol Pot escaped justice and Mao is still eulogized in China. In 1982, Syrian strongman Assad slaughtered 30,000 people and levelled a village. He died peacefully without having been brought to book. It seems like all of these genocides and massacres have been forgotten.

While it was tragic, the My Lai massacre claimed 500 lives. Let's put things in perspective.

 

[Danube]

It seems like all of these genocides and massacres have been forgotten.

Mostly by western academics and media. They ignore the killing machine Marxism has been. They would prefer to focus on the Spanish Inquisition, religions etc etc

 

[palehorse]

Please do your research before claiming that American tried to save SVN from going under the bus. Instead of pushing the Vietnamese out of the bus way, they are the one that pushed the Vietnamese under the bus.

Hanoi were friendly to the American and modeled its Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam off of the the US & French declarations. In fact the US were sympathetic to Ho Chi Minh cause and treated him for malaria during its fight for independence against the French. However, Harry Truman ignored the Atlantic Charter and stabbed the Vietnamese people in the back by supported the Imperialist French.

The North & South Vietnam conflict greatly benefited the American weapon makers, over the death of 3+ millions Vietnamese, and more than 50 thousands not so blue blooded American.

[add]

Once the defined line dawned in the sand between the North & South Vietnam, John F. Kennedy staged a coup against SVN and murdered its president (Ngo Dinh Diem) to put in place a puppet government (Nguyen Van Thieu) that prepared to escalates the conflict into a full blown war. After Kennedy death (murdered by his own people) Lyndon Johnson (murderer) escalated American deployment into Vietnam, Richard Nixon (liar & murderer) were elected on the notation that he will end the draft and the Vietnam War, and then the war criminal Henry Kissinger were presented with the Nobel Peace Prize.

wow, a real life communist.

cool.

p

Mai Lai was a tragedy and a crime. Let it be remembered as such and we should do everything in our power to never let it happen again, and to severely punish any individual soldiers who do anything similar in other wars.

It's safe to say that the rest of the communist/revisionist nonsense you've written here can be completely ignored...

 

[iGas]

At about the same time, about 3 million Bangladeshis were slaughtered at the hands of the Pakistani military and not one person has been brought to book for that crime. The killing fields of Cambodia claimed millions of lives. Mao's cultural revolution did the same. Pol Pot escaped justice and Mao is still eulogized in China. In 1982, Syrian strongman Assad slaughtered 30,000 people and levelled a village. He died peacefully without having been brought to book. It seems like all of these genocides and massacres have been forgotten.

While it was tragic, the My Lai massacre claimed 500 lives. Let's put things in perspective.

I'm that I'm not familiar with Pakistan history, and I don't think the anyone in the world can prevent the culture revolution or prosecute the people that involve in the the culture revolution. As for Pol Pot killing field, the US & British was partly at fault therefore no one was brought into international court, mater of fact one of Pol Pot henchmen Hun Sen (that saw to it that thousands of innocent people that sent to their death) became the prime minister Cambodia and was allowed to visit the US to attend his son graduation from West Point United States Military Academy. Assad murdered of his own people is beyond anyone fathom, however it doesn't excuse the US government or its peons that blindly follow their murderous leaders.

Please look into the crimes that were done on the Highway Of Death and see what other atrocities that American inflicts upon people that didn't harm a hair on an American body.

Thanks for pointing out Pakistani & Assad atrocities, as it give me some thing to read and learn. Pakistani & Assad kills their own people....not American.

PS. It still doesn't excuse the supposedly greatest country in the world from massacred people outside of US border.

 

[iGas]

wow, a real life communist.

cool.

p

Mai Lai was a tragedy and a crime. Let it be remembered as such and we should do everything in our power to never let it happen again, and to severely punish any individual soldiers who do anything similar in other wars.

It's safe to say that the rest of the communist/revisionist nonsense you've written here can be completely ignored...

You don't even know the meaning of communist to use such a world.

I lived through the Vietnam War and have family members murdered by the French/Japanese/American/Viet Cong/South Vietnamese Army.

I have seen horrible things that I wouldn't even wish it upon my worst enemy.

Please educate yourself as to why there are people opposes wars. Ask yourself what have you done to deserve the liberty that many American sacrifice their lives/careers/face jail time to opposed the evil that your government bestowed upon Vietnam during the 60s & 70s.

 

[palehorse]

You don't even know the meaning of communist to use such a world.

I lived through the Vietnam War and have family members murdered by the French/Japanese/American/Viet Cong/South Vietnamese Army.

I have seen horrible things that I wouldn't even wish it upon my worst enemy.

Please educate yourself as to why there are people opposes wars. Ask yourself what have you done to deserve the liberty that many American sacrifice their lives/careers/face jail time to opposed the evil that your government bestowed upon Vietnam during the 60s & 70s.

I have certainly earned the right to say what I wish, especially about those I see as directly opposed to my nation or myself.

I see a communist.

 

[dammitgibs]

some things should never be forgotten.

nevar forgett!!!!111

 

[JSt0rm]

You don't even know the meaning of communist to use such a world.

I lived through the Vietnam War and have family members murdered by the French/Japanese/American/Viet Cong/South Vietnamese Army.

I have seen horrible things that I wouldn't even wish it upon my worst enemy.

Please educate yourself as to why there are people opposes wars. Ask yourself what have you done to deserve the liberty that many American sacrifice their lives/careers/face jail time to opposed the evil that your government bestowed upon Vietnam during the 60s & 70s.

palehourse has killed for the government and liked it so you wont find any solace in him.

 

[Pocatello]

I'm at a lost for word after viewing it.


My previous perception and what I have read on the My Lai massacre lead me to belive that a some people in Charlie company were crazy and the massacre was an isolated accident combine with missed comunications between the chain of command .


My view now completely changed after I watched Four Hous In My Lai. To me the My Lai massacred weren't an isolated incident but one of possibly many more through out the wars in the last 40 years that the authority aren't fond of. IMHO, we haven't heard of other atrocities because of the media suppression from the government.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYzb9DH7YAE


:'(

You better be careful of what you're saying. Do you think you live in Vietnam where you can say anything you want? The evil US government is going to track you down and send you to Detroit. If you don't know already, watching the My Lai massacre on YouTube is illegal, spouting about My Lai is illegal. In fact, saying anything bad against the US government is illegal.

 

[ShawnD1]

Dude they killed children! Babies.

They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back?

 

[palehorse]

palehorse has killed for the government and liked it so you wont find any solace in him.

Killing is not the rewarding part of our job. It is not something I like, nor do I work with anyone who enjoys it.

So, please go fuck yourself.