Haswell Xeon Hyperthreading

[slim pickens]

I recently built a server based on a Xeon E3-1225V3 CPU running on an Asus P9D-V motherboard. This is a Haswell based CPU. My understanding is this model is a quad core CPU which does not support hyperthreading. And yet, Windows 7 Pro reports 8 cores in the task manager. What gives?

 

[TuxDave]

http://ark.intel.com/products/75461

Weird, it shows 4 threads here too. Can you double check the CPU you got?

 

[slim pickens]

The motherboard only has one CPU socket, if that's what you're wondering.

 

[Gillbot]

Use CPUz or HWInfo and post a screenshot.

 

[slim pickens]

I suck at using these forums, but here's a link to screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hh1wlndotk3pi9y/cpuz.jpg?n=97284696

P.S. Download.com infected my computer with all kinds of crapware :twisted:

 

[Gillbot]

it says you have ht, if you have 8 workers be happy with it

 

[SunnyD]

Expect a microcode update that will magically "fix" this feature bug shortly.

 

[slim pickens]

Not unhappy, just perplexed. And hoping I didn't configure something wrong. Mostly I just stuck with the defaults in the BIOS.

 

[slim pickens]

Ahh, the dreaded microcode fix. I suppose I should avoid any future updates ;-)

 

[Engineer]

Ahh, the dreaded microcode fix. I suppose I should avoid any future updates ;-)

Or just patch the new BIOS back to the current Microcode! :biggrin:

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Expect a microcode update that will magically "fix" this feature bug shortly.

Well put, well put

 

[Burpo]

E3-1230 shows Hyperthreaded here.. Maybe a mismarked 1230 bin? Weird..
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+@+3.20GHz

 

[slim pickens]

E3-1230 shows Hyperthreaded here.. Maybe a mismarked 1230 bin? Weird..
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+@+3.20GHz

I was thinking something along these lines as well. The E3-1225 allegedly has graphics built in, but my mobo chipset (C224) doesn't support that, so I can't prove it beyond doubt. It is a strange occurrence.

 

[Engineer]

I was thinking something along these lines as well. The E3-1225 allegedly has graphics built in, but my mobo chipset (C224) doesn't support that, so I can't prove it beyond doubt. It is a strange occurrence.

Not sure why it would show as a 1225 in CPU-Z if it were 'mis-binned'?

Hmmmm....

Now people are going to be tearing the Asus Bios apart to see how it magically turned on hyperthreading on a non-hyperthreaded core (or so says Intel! :sneaky

 

[slim pickens]

Engineer is right, the 'mis-binned' theory doesn't seem to explain it all that well.

 

[Engineer]

What CPU does BIOS identify your Xeon as?

 

[Smoblikat]

HT isnt physically shut off, it is just turned off by greed and microcode.

I know a guy who used to write BIOS/microcode for CPU's and he knows how to turn it on

 

[zir_blazer]

HT isnt physically shut off, it is just turned off by greed and microcode.

I know a guy who used to write BIOS/microcode for CPU's and he knows how to turn it on

MOAR data.


As far that I know, no one knows exactly what degree of features are available if you were able to modify the microcode. I guess both Hyper Threading, features flags (VT-d, TSX, etc), and max Multiplier could be touched with it.
After all, didn't Intel themselves released a few Processors models that were upgradeable with a code unlocking Cores, Cache L3 or higher Frequency? Indeed there must be a way.

 

[NTMBK]

If I were you, I'd delete this post before Intel notices and tries to "fix" your PC!

 

[john3850]

Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3 family, Socket 1150 Cpu World
Xeon E3-1220L v3 2 / 4 1.1 GHz 1.3 GHz 4 MB 13W HT >
Xeon E3-1230L v3 4 / 8 1.8 GHz 2.8 GHz 8 MB 25W HT $250 >

Xeon E3-1220 v3 4 / 4 3.1 GHz 3.5 GHz 8 MB 80W $193 >
Xeon E3-1225 v3 4 / 4 3.2 GHz 3.6 GHz 8 MB 84W $213

Xeon E3-1265L v3 4 / 8 2.5 GHz 3.7 GHz 8 MB 45W HT $294 >
Xeon E3-1230 v3 4 / 8 3.3 GHz 3.7 GHz 8 MB 80W HT $240 >
Xeon E3-1285L v3 4 / 8 3.1 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB 65W HT $774 >
Xeon E3-1240 v3 4 / 8 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz 8 MB 80W HT $262 >
Xeon E3-1245 v3 4 / 8 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz 8 MB 84W HT $276 >
Xeon E3-1270 v3 4 / 8 3.5 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB 80W HT $328 >
Xeon E3-1275 v3 4 / 8 3.5 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB 84W HT $339 >
Xeon E3-1280 v3 4 / 8 3.6 GHz 4 GHz 8 MB 82W HT $612 >
Xeon E3-1285 v3 4 / 8 3.6 GHz 4 GHz 8 MB 84W HT $662
Only two have no ht.

 

[djshortsleeve]

A quad Xeon at 3.1 GHz with HT for a hair over 200 bucks? This may be my next purchase...

 

[slim pickens]

I checked this morning: BIOS reports CPU as E3-1225V3 @ 3.20GHz

 

[Burpo]

What wattage is it, 80 or 84?

 

[slim pickens]

CPU-Z says 84 Watt.

 

[Engineer]

I am at the opinion that your BIOS isn't 'coded properly' for this chip and has the hyperthreading turned on (as stated above). Once Intel gets wind of this, I'm sure that Asus will issue a prompt, new BIOS to address this serious issue!