Haswell GT3e coming to desktops and notebooks

Sweepr

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One of the worst kept secrets is Haswell will have four different GPU configurations: GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT3e. As with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, higher numbers mean more execution units, with GT3 topping out at 40 EUs. The lowercase e denotes an embedded DRAM part, with some amount of DRAM on the Haswell package itself (not on-die)...

Haswell GT3e will be available both in notebooks and desktops, however neither will come in socketed form (BGA-only). The desktop parts will carry an R suffix. This will be the beginning of Intel's socketed/soldered strategy on the desktop, which as of now is set to work sort of like tick tock. Haswell will have socketed desktop SKUs, Broadwell won't, Skylake will, etc...

www.anandtech.com/show/6892/haswell-gt3e-pictured-coming-to-desktops-rsku-notebooks
 
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One of the worst kept secrets is Haswell will have four different GPU configurations: GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT3e. As with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, higher numbers mean more execution units, with GT3 topping out at 40 EUs. The lowercase e denotes an embedded DRAM part, with some amount of DRAM on the Haswell package itself (not on-die)...

Haswell GT3e will be available both in notebooks and desktops, however neither will come in socketed form (BGA-only). The desktop parts will carry an R suffix. This will be the beginning of Intel's socketed/soldered strategy on the desktop, which as of now is set to work sort of like tick tock. Haswell will have socketed desktop SKUs, Broadwell won't, Skylake will, etc...

www.anandtech.com/show/6892/haswell-gt3e-pictured-coming-to-desktops-rsku-notebooks

May be nice for laptops, but for the desktop I would prefer a bigger cpu improvement rather than so much emphasis on graphics performance. On laptops, it comes down to price. I have a feeling GT3e could easily be more expensive than a regular quad core and a midlevel discrete card. If they can make a big improvement in graphics and not raise the price, that would be ideal.
 

inf64

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Intel is getting creamed in iGPU department so no wonder they try to safe face there. They have to try hard though, speed and IQ of Radeon brand is tough to match even for NVidia let alone intel.
 

2is

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For laptops I'm glad they are focusing more on the IGP actually. Efficient, lightweight laptops capable of gaming are starting to become a reality these days and it's nice to see that trend moving forward.
 

tipoo

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I wonder, can Haswell with the eDRAM use it on the CPU side? Does it dynamically split it like in Ivy Bridges L3 cache? If there is no graphics load, could the CPU conceivably use it as one huge L4 cache?

And I'm also curious about the TDP, would the GT3e be able to fit in a 13" Macbook Pro (retina or not) sized laptop for example?
 

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It's remarkable how forthcoming Intel has been with performance improvements in the one area where AMD has still been competitive these last couple of years.

And the funny thing is, with GloFo apparently having their heads stuck up their... and AMD's WSA and Intel's impressive node advantage, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it becomes feasible for Intel to pull itself into first place on the graphics side as well.
 

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It's remarkable how forthcoming Intel has been with performance improvements in the one area where AMD has still been competitive these last couple of years.

And the funny thing is, with GloFo apparently having their heads stuck up their... and AMD's WSA and Intel's impressive node advantage, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it becomes feasible for Intel to pull itself into first place on the graphics side as well.

AMD put EDRAM on the Xbox GPU.

Im sure they could do the same on their APU's if they needed the performance.

I was under the impression it was expensive to do though so i doubt it for AMD's prices
 

wlee15

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I'm not sure that AMD was responsible for the EDRAM part of the Xbox 360. In any case I do agree that Intel's EDRAM is probably quite expensive. That said I'm not sure AMD's solution of GDDR5 and possibly GDDR5m is much cheaper, although I understand that it's a stopgap solution until DDR4 comes along. I be interested in what happens to Intel's EDRAM when DDR4 does come to Intel.
 

jpiniero

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Hmm, that die really looks large. No wonder why they want $50 more for it. Good luck getting any OEM other than Apple to buy it though.
 

Tsavo

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One of the worst kept secrets is Haswell will have four different GPU configurations: GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT3e. As with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, higher numbers mean more execution units, with GT3 topping out at 40 EUs. The lowercase e denotes an embedded DRAM part, with some amount of DRAM on the Haswell package itself (not on-die)...

Haswell GT3e will be available both in notebooks and desktops, however neither will come in socketed form (BGA-only). The desktop parts will carry an R suffix. This will be the beginning of Intel's socketed/soldered strategy on the desktop, which as of now is set to work sort of like tick tock. Haswell will have socketed desktop SKUs, Broadwell won't, Skylake will, etc...

www.anandtech.com/show/6892/haswell-gt3e-pictured-coming-to-desktops-rsku-notebooks

Jesus, what a horribly written article. AT needs to hire an editor.